Small Charm dropped by Baal

Hello everyone,

I got a Small Charm from

Baal and I asked myself
- does it have a high item level and
- is it worth to reroll it (like Grand Charms) to get a GG Small Charm or doesn't the item level matter in this case?

Thanks & best

Yes, it has a high item level but you can get these also in tz.
No, it's not worth it. Chances to get something valuable are better with grand charms.

Thanks for your reply @atari

atari wrote: 8 months ago

Yes, it has a high item level but you can get these also in tz.
No, it's not worth it. Chances to get something valuable are better with grand charms.

Out of ignorance why is this the case? I assume because of the + to skills a GC can roll?

ghostpos wrote: 8 months ago

Out of ignorance why is this the case? I assume because of the + to skills a GC can roll?

I assume it's just because of the low chance of actually getting something good. There are only a few prefix and suffix combos that are sought after in small charms, whereas when it comes to skills on grand charms, there are 21 skill trees so even though the chance of getting any one specific skill tree is low (same as any other individual affix, I think?), the fact that there are 21 of them actually gives you a decent chance to get a skiller when re-rolling them - it might not be the skill tree you want, but at least it's a skiller that can be held on to or traded. It's the same reason why you don't usually re-roll other magic items, like trying to get a JMoD.

Makes sense!

ghostpos wrote: 8 months ago

atari wrote: 8 months ago

Yes, it has a high item level but you can get these also in tz.
No, it's not worth it. Chances to get something valuable are better with grand charms.

Out of ignorance why is this the case? I assume because of the + to skills a GC can roll?

For one, you have different odds of "useful affixes" when comparing SCs to GCs.

On top of that though, high lvl affix doesn't necessarily mean desired affix. For GCs, you want your ilvl to be as high as possible (read: 91+) so you can roll up to 45 life vita which happens to not only be the highest actually rollable affix in terms of ilvl req but also pretty much the single most valuable thing you can roll (in combination with a solid prefix that is).
For SCs, that isn't quite true. Ideally, you want them at ilvl 88 exactly so you can roll pestilent (in combination with of anthrax) and get that GG poison SC. 89+ however starts giving you stuff like higher elemental prefixes and +1 dmg prefixes which just generally aren't as desired (if at all) and hence effectively dilute your odds of lower, better (read: more valuable) affixes.

I re-roll small charms dropped by

Baal. From plain +20 life vita charms to +3 frw / 7% mf - it's all good for me, and frankly, it hasn't taken as many re-rolls to get in comparison to grand charms. Not even close.