Are there any sort of staff or Swirling Crystal for sorcs that come with base increase to skills or stats that can then get a runeword to further increase it?
For example, is there the possibility of finding a 4 socket Archon Staff that has (x) to cold skills that I can then plug HOTO into? Is there any benefit to using a Flail outside of resale?@ Deckard Cain
16
replies
1019 views
Description
Are there any sort of staff or Swirling Crystal for sorcs that come with base increase to skills or stats that can then get a runeword to further increase it?
For example, is there the possibility of finding a 4 socket Archon Staff that has (x) to cold skills that I can then plug HOTO into? Is there any benefit to using a Flail outside of resale?@ Deckard Cain
For example, is there the possibility of finding a 4 socket Archon Staff that has (x) to cold skills that I can then plug HOTO into? Is there any benefit to using a Flail outside of resale?@ Deckard Cain
Can be used to make Runewords:
check out my available trades member/hav0c_2/
all items are negotiable. I'll probably accept a counter offer if you don't lowball me
all items are negotiable. I'll probably accept a counter offer if you don't lowball me
Ah, greetings, traveler! In the world of Diablo 2: Resurrected, certain items indeed have inherent bonuses that can be further enhanced with runewords. Allow me to shed some light on your inquiries:hav0c_2 wrote:Are there any sort of staff or Swirling Crystal for sorcs that come with base increase to skills or stats that can then get a runeword to further increase it?
For example, is there the possibility of finding a 4 socket Archon Staff that has (x) to cold skills that I can then plug HOTO into? Is there any benefit to using a Flail outside of resale?
1. **Staves and Swirling Crystals:**
- Staves can spawn with +X to Sorceress skills and sometimes even specific skill bonuses. However, staves cannot have more than 4 sockets, and while they can roll with these useful modifiers, only specific runewords compatible with staves can be used (such as Leaf or Memory). The Heart of the Oak (HOTO) runeword requires a Mace or staff with 4 sockets, but it is commonly made in a Flail for better flexibility due to lower requirements and faster attack speeds.
2. ** Swirling Crystal:**
- Orbs like the Swirling Crystal can naturally come with bonuses to Sorceress skills or attributes, but they cannot be socketed with multiple runes to create runewords. They do, however, serve as excellent standalone items due to their inherent properties and can be further enhanced with rare item affixes.
3. **Using a Flail:**
- A Flail is often used for creating the Heart of the Oak runeword due to its low requirements and fast attack speed, which also benefits characters other than Sorceresses who can wield it for its excellent bonuses. It’s a versatile weapon for caster classes because of all the powerful stats HOTO provides, including +3 to all skills, faster cast rate, and resistances.
To summarize, while you cannot create a hybrid staff with cold skills and HOTO, you can focus on utilizing other runewords or exceptional elite options for the desired combination of skills and bonuses. Choose wisely, and may your arcane powers be ever potent!
This is an AI-generated response. Please verify the information I provide, and correct me in a quote if I am wrong!
OK, Swirling Crystal is out, but would there be benefit to using a staff with intrinsic skill boosts and boosting further with HOTO?
check out my available trades member/hav0c_2/
all items are negotiable. I'll probably accept a counter offer if you don't lowball me
all items are negotiable. I'll probably accept a counter offer if you don't lowball me
You cannot make HOTO in anything other than a Flail, Knout, or Scourge. Period. You can make Call To Arms in a 5os War Staff and its variants. Obsession in a 6os War Staff and its variants. Memory in a 4os staff and Leaf in a 2os Staff are also options.hav0c_2 wrote: 5 months agoOK, Swirling Crystal is out, but would there be benefit to using a staff with intrinsic skill boosts and boosting further with HOTO?
I've been wrong this whole time. They can be made in staves. Flails are just the only one-handed weapon they can be made in.
I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys, Perfect Gems, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
That's what I thought, but according to this page base/archon-staff-t1758.html HOTO can be placed in an Archon Staff?Knappogue wrote: 5 months agoYou cannot make HOTO in anything other than a Flail, Knout, or Scourge. Period. You can make Call To Arms in a 5os War Staff and its variants. Obsession in a 6os War Staff and its variants. Memory in a 4os staff and Leaf in a 2os Staff are also options.hav0c_2 wrote: 5 months agoOK, Swirling Crystal is out, but would there be benefit to using a staff with intrinsic skill boosts and boosting further with HOTO?
check out my available trades member/hav0c_2/
all items are negotiable. I'll probably accept a counter offer if you don't lowball me
all items are negotiable. I'll probably accept a counter offer if you don't lowball me
hav0c_2 wrote: 5 months agoThat's what I thought, but according to this page base/archon-staff-t1758.html HOTO can be placed in an Archon Staff?Knappogue wrote: 5 months agoYou cannot make HOTO in anything other than a Flail, Knout, or Scourge. Period. You can make Call To Arms in a 5os War Staff and its variants. Obsession in a 6os War Staff and its variants. Memory in a 4os staff and Leaf in a 2os Staff are also options.hav0c_2 wrote: 5 months agoOK, Swirling Crystal is out, but would there be benefit to using a staff with intrinsic skill boosts and boosting further with HOTO?
That is an oversight on the page. You cannot make HOTO in an Archon Staff base. Even items that say they are ' Mace' class. Don't be tempted. Flail, Knout, or Scourge. That's it.
I'm wrong. Learn something new every day
I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys, Perfect Gems, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
I think you can make HOTO in a staff, I found many topics about it (although I never tried but maxroll allows staves as a base). If you have a good base with good mods on you can try it but you lose the offhand shield as staves are two hand weapons.hav0c_2 wrote: 5 months agoThat's what I thought, but according to this page base/archon-staff-t1758.html HOTO can be placed in an
Archon Staff?
The most used combination is HOTO and Spirit shield. But if you find an insane base you can go with staves.
My Holy Grail - holygrailtracker.php?user_id=106606
The Runeword page on this site also clearly includes "staves" for HOTO.Florian_G wrote: 5 months agoI think you can make HOTO in a staff, I found many topics about it (although I never tried but maxroll allows staves as a base). If you have a good base with good mods on you can try it but you lose the offhand shield as staves are two hand weapons.hav0c_2 wrote: 5 months agoThat's what I thought, but according to this page base/archon-staff-t1758.html HOTO can be placed in an
Archon Staff?
The most used combination is HOTO and Spirit shield. But if you find an insane base you can go with staves.
Dunno if u can but not sure why anyone would want to when it precludes your Spirit shield. Plus after hearing about someone (forget who lol) putting it in a Warhammer or something different than a Flail just for style points and ending up with a Gemmed weapon and a bitten desk as a result, I'd rather just stick with what works than try to reinvent the wheel here.
HCL nintendo switch
6276-3649-1595
Bnet: CoralViper#114373
6276-3649-1595
Bnet: CoralViper#114373
It's a tradeoff basically between Heart of the Oak in a Flail + Spirit shield and Obsession in a Staff, whatever suits you more. However to make anything in a Staff being worthwhile you'll need to first find a decent (if not GG) base and HotO base is just 4os Flail (since only Flails can support that runeword from all other maces).
It's not solely +skills you should be after with a Sorc, it's also @res, mana, FCR and stuff like that -- that are really making a difference!
P.S. It's the analogy of: Why would you ever want to equip only 1 weapon on Barb when you can have 2 and have all the additional bonuses other one brings or in some very rare cases +shield.
It's not solely +skills you should be after with a Sorc, it's also @res, mana, FCR and stuff like that -- that are really making a difference!
P.S. It's the analogy of: Why would you ever want to equip only 1 weapon on Barb when you can have 2 and have all the additional bonuses other one brings or in some very rare cases +shield.
Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
Battle Hammer is a hammer, not a mace
Blizzard really did us a disservice 25 years ago by making it so confusing. There’s a whole category of weapons called “maces” (in-game they all say “mace class” on the hover tooltip, and they all benefit from Barbarian’s Mace Mastery), all different kinds of blunt weapons. In reality there are 3 weapon classes - clubs, maces and hammers. The fact that the whole category of blunt weapons is called “maces” yet there’s a sub-group of blunt weapons also called “maces” is just needlessly confusing. The weapon category should have been called “blunt weapons” probably.
The page on “maces” on the old Arreat Summit website groups these blunt weapons by proper class, but it’s definitely a bit discrete:
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/i ... aces.shtml
I wonder if this issue exists in other languages as well
I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Sadly, yes:
True maces:
I suppose the translators just blindly translated the provided texts, without digging deeper whether they make sense (and introduced own issues with the translation as well...).
I didn't know that the "mace issue" with Heart of the Oak was actually a translation mistake 
(I thought it was just a bug/glitch...)
(I thought it was just a bug/glitch...)
Trang Oul wrote: 5 months agoSadly, yes:
True maces:
image.pngimage.png
"Maces":
image.pngimage.png
("klasa buław" - "buława"/"булава" = "mace")
I suppose the translators just blindly translated the provided texts, without digging deeper whether they make sense (and introduced own issues with the translation as well...).
It isn't. The original English version incorrectly calls most blunt weapons "maces" (except wands and staves - but they, together with orbs, are incorrectly called "staves"). Translations just repeat these mistakes, as many of the item types do not even have a proper description string to be used.
Look here and search for
Class - (with a dash).
Sorry, I think I misunderstood your post... 
(you actually said that the "mace issue" do occurs in other languages...)
(you actually said that the "mace issue" do occurs in other languages...)
Trang Oul wrote: 5 months agoIt isn't. The original English version incorrectly calls most blunt weapons "maces" (except wands and staves - by they, together with orbs, are incorrectly called "staves"). Translations just repeat this mistake, as many of the item types do not even have a proper description string to be used.
Look here and search forClass -(with a dash).
Similar pages
Advertisment
Hide ads
Greetings stranger!
You don't appear to be logged in...
99
Who is online
Users browsing Forums: 
FCd2r, 
krankenswine, 
PetalBot [Bot], 
RackAnewShoe, Sogou [Spider] and 207 guests.
No matches
hav0c_2
28