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Actually I got from Countess 2x
Mal
, 2x
Ist
and 1 x
Pul
. And only 2
Terror
keys.

And I've done LOTS of runs
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ShatteringSkies wrote: 2 years ago
Actually I got from Countess 2x
Mal
, 2x
Ist
and 1 x
Pul
. And only 2
Terror
keys.

And I've done LOTS of runs
RNG is tricksy. I've never gotten an
Ist
from Countess. Had her drop 20+ T keys.
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Value of keys should be:
1 - Hate
2 - Dest
2.5 -
Terror


The Summoner
drops most of the time nothing of value, and if the RNG is bad you'll have to cross 4 ways to find him.

The Countess
drops keys and runes, hence why many people farm her. Although it's a pain to find her tower, and then navigate through the 4 floors.

Nihlathak
is BY FAR the easiest to find. The waypoints and entrances are fixed, so it takes 15 seconds to get to him, and 5 to 10 seconds to kill him. Slap a
Nature's Peace
Ring and you're good to go.
Not to mention that like
Baal
,
Nihlathak
can drop any item in the game, I got a
Shako
and a Spiderweb from him. So running him with some MF gear on is a good tactic.
It seems that he also has an elevated chance to drop high runes, I got a
Sur
and a
Cham
from him.
I get a generous chuckle when someone wants to give me 2 Destruction keys for 3 of my Hate keys, considering
The Summoner
is more time-consuming to farm and drops nothing of value outside of keys.

As a lightening sorceress,
Nihlathak
is a walk in the park for me, and if it wasn't for the artificial game-creation cooldown Blizzard put in place, I'd be swimming in D Keys, and some runes / items too. For a Fire Sorceress he must be even easier because the vipers there are immune to lightening, but not to fire.
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Whatever it is people shouldn't expect
Vex
for 3x3 when you get stupid necro torch, you can't even sell it.
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Jilssajaji wrote: 2 years ago
I just offered multiple people
Pul
+
Lem
for 2
Key of Terror
.
They immediately leave the game.

I offered
Ist
+ for 7
Key of Terror
, he immediately leaves the game.
What retarded site are they looking at?? Does it legit say 1
Key
=
Ist
or something??
I got 7 keys for you for
Ist
, msg me.
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Lilith_myballz wrote: 2 years ago
Jilssajaji wrote: 2 years ago
I just offered multiple people
Pul
+
Lem
for 2
Key of Terror
.
They immediately leave the game.

I offered
Ist
+ for 7
Key of Terror
, he immediately leaves the game.
What retarded site are they looking at?? Does it legit say 1
Key
=
Ist
or something??
I got 7 keys for you for
Ist
, msg me.
Added
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Trade mechanics are complex and not Black-White.

Supply and demand will set the price and I can tell you simply by seeing potential uses of
Ist
and its drop rarity compared to that of
Terror
that they are not equal. BUT any item is worth what buyer is willing to pay and in-game trades don't have an much comparison other than own experience.

People do refer too often to fg/real money prices - large part of playerbase don't have any knowledge about d2jsp and money prices are heavily inflated.

That is why I like trade system like here where people can make offers on items publicly and there will be trade history available for future. Wish VV included a similar system by default.
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yea keys arent that rare and are overpriced a lot

all keys not just
Terror
.
Destruction keys are just more expensive because all the cold sorcs cant get them.

even though finding nilathak is much more easier than countess or god forbid
The Summoner
.

the magic lies in beating the
Pandemonium Event
.

but a unid torch even goes for 4x3 keys.

even though almost all mfers can do countess and summoner atleast.
but only a tiny fraction of the players are actually beating ubers
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Hen0sis wrote: 2 years ago
Actually
Pul
for a
Key
isn't overpriced at all imo.

The cheapest you can get a 3x3 for is around ~
Gul
, and 9x
Pul
=
Ist
+
Pul
, which is even cheaper.

I understand that you pay extra for the 3x3 since it's a complete uber package in a single trade, but still, you would save
Um
+
Pul
by buying every single
Key
for
Pul
each.
In my opinion you misunderstand the way runes may be traded upwards and downwards. In some cases it is indeed true to say that 2 of the lower runes are worth the same as 1 higher rune, but that isn't always true.

From my experience I can say that 2
Mal
=
Ist
, or 2
Gul
=
Vex
, or 2
Vex
= (roughly)
Ohm
. But despite the fact that they can be crafted in cube that way 2
Pul
Um
, 2
Um
Mal
and 2
Ist
Gul
. That's why you can't expect to trade a
Gul
for 16
Pul
's. That's an insane overprice. And for the same reason 1
Key
can't be worth a
Pul
. Its fair price is a bit less than a
Lem
.

3x3
Key
set worth a
Gul
(atm) because in a conjunction with effort of killing Ubers it is equal to the estimated price of a unid torch. That's the reason unid's are traded for 3x4 or 3x3 + smth.

Reliks#2506 Bnet
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OP
User avatar

y2kid 109

PC
Correct, and especially now with the economy slowing down crazy.
3x3 Keyset
is hardly worth a
Gul
still. And as Reliks said 3x3 set =
Gul
, but not 2x
Ist
, since x2
Ist
>
Gul
.

y2k#2833 on Bnet
y2kid#1811 on Discord
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ShatteringSkies wrote: 2 years ago
Actually I got from Countess 2x
Mal
, 2x
Ist
and 1 x
Pul
. And only 2
Terror
keys.

And I've done LOTS of runs
@BillyMaysed why is there no button to dislike a post ? :D

I h8 all you lucky ppl, lol!

j/k of course .... you're all awesome :)
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BillyMaysed 2170Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
Voyager2k10 wrote: 2 years ago
@BillyMaysed why is there no button to dislike a post ? :D
Lol. too many people keep asking for a dislike or -trust option. Everyone feelin a bit green at others success :P (me too).

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BillyMaysed wrote: 2 years ago
Voyager2k10 wrote: 2 years ago
@BillyMaysed why is there no button to dislike a post ? :D
Lol. too many people keep asking for a dislike or -trust option. Everyone feelin a bit green at others success :P (me too).
Yeah, I can see you literally turned green from envy ;-)
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From the tracked runs I have done, I've got
Key of Terror
about every 10th run.

I play on UTC+3 (aka CEST+1 or EEST)
7
Always enjoy reading comments of trades like:
  • WTS low-roll runeword: I'm just asking for the cost of rune + base

Relax and have fun!
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Yperka wrote: 2 years ago
Value of keys should be:
1 - Hate
2 - Dest
2.5 -
Terror

The Summoner
drops most of the time nothing of value, and if the RNG is bad you'll have to cross 4 ways to find him.
The Countess
drops keys and runes, hence why many people farm her. Although it's a pain to find her tower, and then navigate through the 4 floors.
Nihlathak
is BY FAR the easiest to find. The waypoints and entrances are fixed, so it takes 15 seconds to get to him, and 5 to 10 seconds to kill him. Slap a
Nature's Peace
Ring and you're good to go.
Not to mention that like
Baal
,
Nihlathak
can drop any item in the game, I got a
Shako
and a Spiderweb from him. So running him with some MF gear on is a good tactic.
It seems that he also has an elevated chance to drop high runes, I got a
Sur
and a
Cham
from him.
I get a generous chuckle when someone wants to give me 2 Destruction keys for 3 of my Hate keys, considering
The Summoner
is more time-consuming to farm and drops nothing of value outside of keys.
I play as a
Frenzy
-Barb and Nihllathak is by far the fastest to get Keys for me (knowing the way and no Phys-immune besides witches and ghosts).
Summoner is a pain in the ass for a Barb, because there are plenty ghosts (instand oom AND phys-immune), you need to walk/jump everything AND he drops abysmal.
I did a fair bit of countess, but I got enough low-level runes now and running through the tower is just annoying over time.
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RPD 0

Americas PC
and a year later a
Terror
Key
is selling for an
Ist
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RPD wrote: 5 months ago
and a year later a
Terror
Key
is selling for an
Ist
Just click on the price history,
Ist
is asking for 1 keyset, or 3 keys. :)

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User avatar

RPD 0

Americas PC
flamebellow wrote: 5 months ago
RPD wrote: 5 months ago
and a year later a
Terror
Key
is selling for an
Ist
Just click on the price history,
Ist
is asking for 1 keyset, or 3 keys. :)

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Correct, I mistakenly looked at hate keys :)
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