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ManyMen wrote: 11 months ago
brgljez wrote: 11 months ago
ManyMen wrote: 11 months ago


The equivalency he posted would mean you got 16 Ist worth of value for 19 ists. My equivalency would put it at 20 to 30 value for 19 Ist. If the seller wanted to he could've waited for a better buyer, it's all about timing. You got a good deal in either case. From what I've seen a Ber can go much higher than 10-11 Ist because I sold one for 17 just 2 days ago.
let's begin from the start. what type of game are you talking about, softcore/hardcore, nonladder/ladder, pc/ps/switch?
Ladder SC, hence the mention of it at the end of my reply. Ber and Jah tend to be closer to the lower estimate in non-ladder from what I've seen, about 10-11 Ist, which is closer to what you got in your trade.

Nechrach wrote that it's for nonladder and that things are different for ladder.
Also, again, that post is 2 moths old. Things changed since then.
You can place your valuation for ladder, just write that on the top of post.

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Hello guys,

As said above :
- prices may and will vary - the safest way to get current runes information is to go to the price history of that rune.
- therefore, a 2 months old post is necessarily wrong, though NL prices are quite stable now
- prices indicated before were for NL, and they differ vastly for Ladder, especially when Ladder begins. Ber and Jah are worth more in ladder, especially at season start when they are super sought after.
- Agreed that Lem / Pul / Um / Mal are slightly above what they used to be, even in NL. As for higher runes, they may have raised a bit also.

Once again, this post was :
- To give an idea of prices at a certain point in time
- And for NL SC only

Hope it clarifies.

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brgljez wrote: 11 months ago
ManyMen wrote: 11 months ago
brgljez wrote: 11 months ago


let's begin from the start. what type of game are you talking about, softcore/hardcore, nonladder/ladder, pc/ps/switch?
Ladder SC, hence the mention of it at the end of my reply. Ber and Jah tend to be closer to the lower estimate in non-ladder from what I've seen, about 10-11 Ist, which is closer to what you got in your trade.

Nechrach wrote that it's for nonladder and that things are different for ladder.
Also, again, that post is 2 moths old. Things changed since then.
You can place your valuation for ladder, just write that on the top of post.
He also wrote that it's for early ladder, we're already 2.5 months in the current season. I get it now that prices can vary, I've only played for a few months so I don't know how big those changes can be. Currently his old estimates are off even for non-ladder, because ladder prices now are almost in line with non-ladder. It's practically impossible to find a Ber for 7 Ist or a Lo for 4 Ist anywhere. Even if you look at historic prices here, there's only like 1 trade like that in the past 5 months. Online and on traderie prices are even steeper.
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ManyMen wrote: 11 months ago
Even if you look at historic prices here, there's only like 1 trade like that in the past 5 months. Online and on traderie prices are even steeper.
You correctly pointed out that ladder and non-ladder are different markets and command different prices. That difference is not unique. diablo2.io, traderie, d2jsp, ebay, facebook, etc are also different markets and there will be sometimes significant variance in prices. On D2. Io prices tend to be a little softer than traderie. Its been like that for at least 2 years.

Different gaming platforms will also experience different price values at the same moment in time. The Xbox market, for example consistently lags behind PC by 4-6 months. I can still trade 8 Ist for a Jah on xbox, but on PC I'd have to pay 10+ Ist for that Jah.
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SoJ worth 2 Vex according to that and I can't even get Mal+ Ist for it. Huh.

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KrassusD2 wrote: 4 years ago
Morphin wrote: 4 years ago
Different topic, but prolonging a game's fun by pretending not knowing something we already know is going to be futile.
you don't need to pretend, but you can have fun without playing the meta. the game is so much more than that. it's not just about being efficient and getting a good deal, it can be about the struggle, whether alone or with friends, it can bbe about the enjoyment of drops, it can be about making new friends and completing challenges together.

after 20 years or so, would you not say it's kinda stale to start with a sorc and get GG gear in the first few days? Even if someone is the type of player that likes to show off his early ladder gains, after so much time, can that bring any kind of excitement anymore?

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Why does Ber go for Jah but Jah goes for Ber and Ist
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RMac85 103

Sorceress Americas PC
If Ber goes for Jah then Jah can go for Ber.

The reason for the difference is a bit like the stock market supply and demand.

The last price for a stock trade might have been $1.00 ao you could say that stock was worth $1.00. But current Buy bid is $0.95 and cureent sell Offer is $1.05. So if you need to buy right now, you pay $1.05. If you need to sell right now you only get $0.95. or you can offer $1.00 and then wait and see if someome in the marlet thinks thats a fair price. you might get a trade or might not.

In D2 if you need a trade right now, you'll tend to lose a bit of value. If you are patient you can get a bit more.

There are lots of traders who try and just work the spread in items by buying a little bit low and selling a little bit high. If the same person did both of the trades in your post, they would make an Ist profit. So those trades are always on offer. I think these people spend a lot of time playing so can afford to wait.

I personally always just sell a bit below m
market value and buy a bit over it since I dont play enough to have items up for trade then trade when it suits other people. I need to trade when I want to so I pay the market cost.
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kerph 257

RotW Americas PC
Anyone know why the price of Ist has been rising? Started at the end of s13 but seemingly on non-ladder too?

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not know what you mean, I don't see any increase
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kerph 257

RotW Americas PC
IamSteve wrote: 2 months ago
not know what you mean, I don't see any increase
Relative to lower runes & pgems. Used to be 20-25 pgems to Ist, now it's more like 30-35. Same w Perfect Amethyst, used to be 10 to Ist now 15

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no, I see less Ist trades, not more cost
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tried to compile a few recent threads for
SC NL RotW
and found about these values

Jah : around 10 Ist
Ber : 9 to 10 Ist
Zod : 8 to 10 Ist
Sur: 6 Ist
Lo : 5 Ist
Cham: 4 to 5 Ist
Ohm: 3 Ist
Vex: 2.5 Ist

of course it can varies a bit from sale to sale
but do you think these values are correct?

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yes to my understanding, but the Jah might be 11 Ist, Vex is 3, Ohm is 4, I honestly have no Idea what Cham is but aproximately 5, Lo and Sur are 6
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klmklm27 wrote: 1 month ago
tried to compile a few recent threads for
SC NL RotW
and found about these values

Jah : around 10 Ist
Ber : 9 to 10 Ist
Zod : 8 to 10 Ist
Sur: 6 Ist
Lo : 5 Ist
Cham: 4 to 5 Ist
Ohm: 3 Ist
Vex: 2.5 Ist

of course it can varies a bit from sale to sale
but do you think these values are correct?
Looks generally accurate to me. I would put Cham at 5 or 5-6, and Zod at 9-11 (or just 10), but is in the range. Often there is a bid/ask spread on these things, but sometimes 95% of the trades are at the bid or the ask, in which case the range is less relevant. Like Lo I would put at a solid 5, although I see people asking for 6. Sometimes the range varies slightly based on platform, region, etc.
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ok based on you feedback I think I underestimated Zod (and checked the last sales too)
and broaden some ranges

Zod : 9 to 11 Ist
Jah : around 10 Ist
Ber : 9 to 10 Ist
Sur: 6 Ist
Lo : 5 to 6 Ist
Cham: 5 to 6 Ist
Ohm: 3 to 4 Ist
Vex: 2.5 to 3 Ist

of course it can't be a fixed value because of the need of the buyer / seller but some prices have changed quite a lot in the last few months

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I do believe ingame EU lobbies ranges are
Zod : 10-12 Ist (basically Jah)
Jah : around 10-12 Ist
Ber : 10 to 11 Ist ( Jah too, sometimes -1 Ist off Jah)
Sur: 7 Ist
Lo : 5-6 Ist
Cham: 6 Ist
Ohm: 4 Ist
Vex: 3 Ist
Gul 1-2 Ist

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KaptPotatoes wrote: 1 month ago
I do believe ingame EU lobbies ranges are
Zod : 10-12 Ist (basically Jah)
Jah : around 10-12 Ist
Ber : 10 to 11 Ist ( Jah too, sometimes -1 Ist off Jah)
Sur: 7 Ist
Lo : 5-6 Ist
Cham: 6 Ist
Ohm: 4 Ist
Vex: 3 Ist
Gul 1-2 Ist
quite the same ranges yet I think these are the "old" prices
my understanding is:

Zod raised due to Void runeword
but Jah and Ber lowered a bit (you can buy either one for 10 Ist, if the seller asks for 12 he can sell it ... or not)
so yes they are all very near but more near 10+ than 12

and others (very) slightly lowered too so what was 6 Ist before might be 5-6 now

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