Opinion: Single Player Infinity Base

Florian_G wrote: 3 months ago

justinman114 wrote: 3 months ago

I'm nearing being able to make Infinity on single player (1 Ber away!), and I'm not sure if I want to make it in a nice elite base for maximum mercenary effectiveness, or if I want to make it in a Scythe to use with my Nova sorceress. I use that setup with my online version, offline I am currently running Crescent Moon Runeword and Spirit, which I actually think is also pretty nice. It's obviously going to be shared between characters, so I'm not sure how much my other toons will suffer if the merc uses a non-elite Infinity (I guess it depends on the character). I am leaning towards using an elite base, but just wanted to see if there were any opinions on this, thanks!

I was in the same boat like you and I ended up with two Infinity.
First one was made for a merc helping a Hydra sorc. It was made in a Mancatcher (I didn't wait to find an ethereal one. Being non Eth can be also used by other chars).
Good elite base hepls the merc staying alive, ethereal one is even better.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/z45d40b3

Later, when I played a Nova sorc I made another Infinity in an ethereal Scythe for self wielding.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/bidkf0oq

mikelessar wrote: 3 months ago

dionisy_cn wrote: 3 months ago

mikelessar wrote: 3 months ago

Why a Yari? Wasted points for strenght. A 95% ES Nova sorc wants and needs all points into Energy. Not a single point anywhere else. That means a weapon of normal tier like Scythe, Voulge, Spetum is the only viable option.

Scythe, Voulge, Spetum are options for self-use. For just 16points in strength above upped vipermagi requirements you are getting very nice weapon for your merc on otger elemental characters and for Amazon as well. It is OP's first Infinity on account.
You are talking about some minmaxing which doesn't make sense for me at my Wealth level. I prefer weapon I can use on different characters.

Yes, Scythe, Voulge and Spetum are options for self-use. Yari is not. Why do you consider a Yari? You already have good merc Infis. Now go for a self-use Infi in a normal base if you want to give it to an ES Nova Sorc. That's a no-brainer. And making Infinity in a normal base is not "min-maxing", it's just saving attribute points that a Nova Sorc needs for survival. The build is very strong as soon as it has reached a certain threshold. Making inefficient decisions like prioritising Str and Defense over mana does not work well for this build.

You can do what you want to, you are a free man. I would still advise the OP not to do as you do. An Infi either serves a Merc's purposes or it's for self-use. Points into str do not help an ES Nova Sorc. Neither does an upped Vipermagi help her. Defense is completely irrelevant, sorry.

mikelessar wrote: 3 months ago

dionisy_cn wrote: 3 months ago

I'd recommend 4OS non-Ethereal Yari .101 str requirement is more than easy for a Sorc.

Why a Yari? Wasted points for strenght. A 95% ES Nova sorc wants and needs all points into Energy. Not a single point anywhere else. That means a weapon of normal tier like Scythe, Voulge, Spetum is the only viable option.

justinman114 wrote: 3 months ago

I'm nearing being able to make Infinity on single player (1 Ber away!), and I'm not sure if I want to make it in a nice elite base for maximum mercenary effectiveness, or if I want to make it in a Scythe to use with my Nova sorceress. I use that setup with my online version, offline I am currently running Crescent Moon Runeword and Spirit, which I actually think is also pretty nice. It's obviously going to be shared between characters, so I'm not sure how much my other toons will suffer if the merc uses a non-elite Infinity (I guess it depends on the character). I am leaning towards using an elite base, but just wanted to see if there were any opinions on this, thanks!

Spectie wrote: 1 week ago

justinman114 wrote: 3 months ago

I'm nearing being able to make Infinity on single player (1 Ber away!), and I'm not sure if I want to make it in a nice elite base for maximum mercenary effectiveness, or if I want to make it in a Scythe to use with my Nova sorceress. I use that setup with my online version, offline I am currently running Crescent Moon Runeword and Spirit, which I actually think is also pretty nice. It's obviously going to be shared between characters, so I'm not sure how much my other toons will suffer if the merc uses a non-elite Infinity (I guess it depends on the character). I am leaning towards using an elite base, but just wanted to see if there were any opinions on this, thanks!

i'm sure you've already made this decision since this is a 2 mo old post, but i also went through this when making my offline Infinity. I opted to go for Eth Mancatcher and i do not regret it. If it was pre ROTW i would recommend Scythe, but with heralds it's really nice to have emilio doing more damage, if just for the self sustain, against heralds. You can also do a mang song Nova sorc build with merc Infinity that works pretty well and for some reason Mang Song's Lesson seems to drop offline (ive found 5!). Also allows tons of flexibility to use with other builds. I get value out of this on my fire warlock, fire sorceress, and javazon so far.

Spectie wrote: 1 week ago

justinman114 wrote: 3 months ago

I'm nearing being able to make Infinity on single player (1 Ber away!), and I'm not sure if I want to make it in a nice elite base for maximum mercenary effectiveness, or if I want to make it in a Scythe to use with my Nova sorceress. I use that setup with my online version, offline I am currently running Crescent Moon Runeword and Spirit, which I actually think is also pretty nice. It's obviously going to be shared between characters, so I'm not sure how much my other toons will suffer if the merc uses a non-elite Infinity (I guess it depends on the character). I am leaning towards using an elite base, but just wanted to see if there were any opinions on this, thanks!

i'm sure you've already made this decision since this is a 2 mo old post, but i also went through this when making my offline Infinity. I opted to go for Eth Mancatcher and i do not regret it. If it was pre ROTW i would recommend Scythe, but with heralds it's really nice to have emilio doing more damage, if just for the self sustain, against heralds. You can also do a mang song Nova sorc build with merc Infinity that works pretty well and for some reason Mang Song's Lesson seems to drop offline (ive found 5!). Also allows tons of flexibility to use with other builds. I get value out of this on my fire warlock, fire sorceress, and javazon so far.

justinman114 wrote: 1 week ago

since the only character I use that would need to self wield would be the Nova sorc.

departure wrote: 1 week ago

justinman114 wrote: 1 week ago

since the only character I use that would need to self wield would be the Nova sorc.

Again, don't forget trapsin. She's fantastic with self-wield as long as the weapon is fast. Scythes are too slow, Brandistock required.

Bizington wrote: 3 months ago

On the other hand, if you are not playing HC SSF, you can always run a 200% ES Nova build by self wielding Insight.