Is ethereal Thunderstroke completely useless?

Items with quantity do have a hidden durability value (in addition to the quantity itself). You can't tell what it is (in-game I mean). Whenever you hit something in melee the weapon may lose 1 durability (not 1 quantity), and when durability reaches 0, it deducts 1 from the quantity. The durability value on throwing weapons is rather low - for example, it's only 2 for normal javelins, so just 2 hits causing durability loss is enough to lose 1 quantity.

Ceremonial Javelin (

Titan's Revenge) and

Matriarchal Javelin (

Thunderstroke) both have 6 durability when non-ethereal, should be 4 when ethereal (durability/2+1).

From Amazon Basin:

• Throwing weapons have 10% chance of reducing weapon durability by 1 with each successful melee attack. However, their hidden durability values apply to each weapon in a stack individually, so when one is reduced to Durability 0, stack size is reduced by one. Thus a throwing weapon's effective maximum Durability when used as a melee weapon is its maximum durability * maximum stack size: for example, each
  Javelin in a stack has Durability 2 and maximum stack size is 60, resulting in effective maximum Durability 120 (2*60). [4]

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/ind ... Durability

Since

Thunderstroke has quantity = 120 the max durability when ethereal is 120*4=480, and since chance of durability loss is 4% per hit, you should be able to attack with it 12000 times before it breaks. Not sure how it works with

Charged Strike though, if the durability loss can only happen on an actual hit (the

Charged Strike effect always applies, but the physical strike requires a successful hit-check), in that case you can attack even more before it breaks.

ganseng wrote: 24 minutes ago

thank you all for the answers. just to be sure, i can safely stab with my ethereal

Javelin, if it breaks, it will replenish, correct?

If it has self-replenishing, yes.

Do note that, however, that if you bring an ethereal javelin from full stack to 0 quantity with only melee attacks, then it will break permanently even if it has self-replenishing. Before it reaches 0, you must throw a javelin at least one time to trigger self-replenishing.

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/ind ... s_Quantity

• However, throwing weapons at maximum quantity will not replenish when using melee attacks, since quantity is reduced by durability loss and subsequent breakage of individual weapons in each stack. Throwing or using
  Impale (for an Amazon using javelins) will trigger replenishing, even if melee attacks continue to be used afterwards, but if quantity is reduced from maximum to zero using melee attacks only then throwing weapons won't replenish and ethereal weapons will be broken permanently. [1]