which runes are completely useless?

I'm cleaning up the abundance of low runes, not considering cube them to the higher ones, which of those are utterly useless? (you can count Ort out because its extremely useful to me for recharging the weapon)

I wish we had more stash space, since there really isn't any completely worthless runes. you can sell groups of 20+ low runes for higher runes etc.

But for farming sake i would keep Hel+

For me, I would say it's Nef. The only use I've ever found for it was to make one Smoke armor, and to cube them up. Nadir is a worthless RW for my builds.

Well, Spirit and Insight packs can be sold for some mids - it's better than cubin, but requires some time, trade, and stash space. I'm personally just cubin smallest one to Tals. From there, up to Sols included, i'm rollin Spirit/sellin packs, and from Shael to Fal (except Hel, ofc) i mostly swap for more Spirit/Insight ones or more Hels.
From Lem to Gul there are ways of "trade-cubin" - some "O LemPul N Um" or "O 3xPul N Mal" named games I farm waitin for the client.
From Gul up to Lo - cubin is also ok, if not enough space. Then, possibly buyin Sur for Lo +add, and Jah for Lo + Sur.

To me, since I go to countess so often, I only keep 2 of each up to Lum, and the multiple after.

El, Eld, Nef, Eth, Ith

All others have at least a small amount of value. They can either be sold individually for crafting, or sold as a bundle for runewords.

Ral Tir Tal Sol - Insight
Tal Thul Ort Amn - Spirit

Shael -> Dol -> Hel
Hel can be sold in runeword packs used for rerolls. Generally Hels are just nice to keep around.

Io's only use is to cube up into a Lum.

A Lum is about 1/6th to 1/8th of a Pul if you trade for Pgems, and then trade those Pgems for a Pul.

Ko is a little more valuable. Usually can sell for about 4-5 PGems. So about 1/5th of a Pul or less.

Two fals equal a Lem. and two Lems equal a Pul.

So Fal = 1/4th of a Pul.

Generally, the only runes you should be cubing is Io to Lum, and Shael -> Dol -> Hel

Nearly all other runes lose value when you cube them. Only exceptions would be Sur -> Ber and Cham -> Zod in my opinion.

A Sur's value is half a Ber, and a Cham's value is half a Zod.

Good luck with your rune stash!

For me, only El, Eld and Eth (which are easy to memorize)

Nef is used in Recipe: Blood Gloves which can be useful for some builds due to Crushing Blow (but they might be useless for you)

Ith is used in Recipe: Caster Belt

crocorinho wrote: 4 years ago

For me, only El, Eld and Eth (which are easy to memorize)

Nef is used in Recipe: Blood Gloves which can be useful for some builds due to Crushing Blow (but they might be useless for you)

Ith is used in Recipe: Caster Belt

Ahh, I don't play any melee heavy characters, so I didn't know that.

I'm curious when a Caster Belt would be better than Arachnid Mesh.

halflife wrote: 4 years ago

For me, I would say it's Nef. The only use I've ever found for it was to make one Smoke armor, and to cube them up. Nadir is a worthless RW for my builds.

But what about blood crafting??

tatatat wrote: 4 years ago

Ahh, I don't play any melee heavy characters, so I didn't know that.

I'm curious when a Caster Belt would be better than Arachnid Mesh.

When you don't have Arachnid Mesh

I dont know about you guys, but I wont pickup anything off the Ground below a quarter.

And that was before all the inflation of 2021.

My rune inventory system is:

* Keep 2 of every rune up to and including Lem; replenish as needed depending on use
* Keep 9 Hel runes, just in case
* Focus on picking up Pul+ from here on out

Only takes about 3/4 of 1 stash tab for me to manage. Has been awesome for me.

FanciestCrab wrote: 4 years ago

halflife wrote: 4 years ago

For me, I would say it's Nef. The only use I've ever found for it was to make one Smoke armor, and to cube them up. Nadir is a worthless RW for my builds.

But what about blood crafting??

You got a point there, I did use the Blood Gloves crafting recipe a few times. I got one useful pair of gloves out of it, lol. Rest were Charsi food...

I'd say it depends how how much time you have to spare vs your current Wealth/goals.

For the first couple of months I picked everything up and would fill multiple stash/chars with runes. This served me well as I was able to slowly cube up and trade for items.

Eventually I progressed to the point where I felt comfortable leaving low runes on the Ground. It just didn't make sense to spend my time organizing low runes when I could spend more time farming instead.

I still pickup runes as low as Shael as they are close to cubing Hel which is great for removing things in sockets.