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I just found this three socket Mage Plate from a drop, and I have always wanted a Mage Plate to make an Enigma because I hear it's the overall best armor for it, however I'm not certain if I should aim for a Mage Plate with higher defense than this one or if it is fine as it is?
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I just found this three socket Mage Plate from a drop, and I have always wanted a Mage Plate to make an Enigma because I hear it's the overall best armor for it, however I'm not certain if I should aim for a Mage Plate with higher defense than this one or if it is fine as it is?
Do you want after market trade value?
Or for personal use or to switch around your char list?
Mage Plate is decent for their low str vs def values.
Which leads to the next point - Defence.
Unless you are min maxing a char spec for def..it doesn't matter for certain builds. I for one do not care about defence. (e.g block chance > defence , a range char like furyzon / FAzon clears most screens before even allowing yourself to get hit.)
A Breast Plate Enigma is an option because u do not need to sink any points into STR as u progress into the 90's.
Or for personal use or to switch around your char list?
Mage Plate is decent for their low str vs def values.
Which leads to the next point - Defence.
Unless you are min maxing a char spec for def..it doesn't matter for certain builds. I for one do not care about defence. (e.g block chance > defence , a range char like furyzon / FAzon clears most screens before even allowing yourself to get hit.)
A Breast Plate Enigma is an option because u do not need to sink any points into STR as u progress into the 90's.
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I have thought to use it on multiple characters, but only have paladins, necros, druids, and a sorc so far, I might even make the remaining classes at some point. It's really only one of my paladins which relies on block chance and the rest of my characters are casters.
you never know. you might want to trade this one for other things in the future. so, how other people value def would be important.
I would wait a 261 def or a superior one, since they cost very little compare to the runes you put in.
I would wait a 261 def or a superior one, since they cost very little compare to the runes you put in.
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2 Hel ← 1 Festering Essence of Destruction
2 Hel ← 3 Perfect Amethyst
4 Hel ← 1 Ist
2 Hel ← 1 Festering Essence of Destruction
2 Hel ← 3 Perfect Amethyst
4 Hel ← 1 Ist
I use a perf def (only because i found one) BP for my Enigma. Been using that to share around way back in Sseason 0..Avoozl wrote: 1 month ago I have thought to use it on multiple characters, but only have paladins, necros, druids, and a sorc so far, I might even make the remaining classes at some point. It's really only one of my paladins which relies on block chance and the rest of my characters are casters.
Superior items come with stupid repair costs.
By L90 you would have +67 added. With a 20 attri anni and any similar stat torch that's +40. That's +107 str off the bat excluding other str enhancing stuff found on charms,rings,war travs..etc.
Are you on ladder or Non-ladder?
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Non-ladder, I've never really been interested in ladder.Skaijuice wrote: 1 month agoI use a perf def (only because i found one) BP for my Enigma. Been using that to share around way back in Sseason 0..Avoozl wrote: 1 month ago I have thought to use it on multiple characters, but only have paladins, necros, druids, and a sorc so far, I might even make the remaining classes at some point. It's really only one of my paladins which relies on block chance and the rest of my characters are casters.
Superior items come with stupid repair costs.
By L90 you would have +67 added. With a 20 attri anni and any similar stat torch that's +40. That's +107 str off the bat excluding other str enhancing stuff found on charms,rings,war travs..etc.
Are you on ladder or Non-ladder?
Me personally, I don't build expensive runewords in armor that is below 10% of the roll spread.
Mage Plate 225-261 def
Spread is: 36 (max def minus min def)
10% rounded up : 261-4 = 257
If I used a Mage Plate to make an expensive runeword, I wouldn't use one that had a def of less than 257.
That is for personal use as I'm not a min/max player. If rolling to resell, then perfect base.
Mage Plate 225-261 def
Spread is: 36 (max def minus min def)
10% rounded up : 261-4 = 257
If I used a Mage Plate to make an expensive runeword, I wouldn't use one that had a def of less than 257.
That is for personal use as I'm not a min/max player. If rolling to resell, then perfect base.
Do keep in mind that Enigma's def bonus is a straight +def roll and not %ed as it is on many other armors.
As a result, your "lack of def in the base" isn't multiplied out by that and remains comparatively less impactful.
Additionally, if you really care about def, you're not settling for a Mage Plate, you're going for an elite base.
Realistically, a few points of def won't make any noticeable difference in your gameplay and you're good to go with any base you find, so long as the armor type itself is correct (weight, reqs, ..).
That said, if you're at all worried about it, just get a better one either way (assuming you're online and can hence trade for it). While a perfect roll still seems to be around Ohm to Lo (2 for sale here right now), you also have 1 off perfect up for an Ist, or high 250s for a handful of gems/ Pul range, all of which is basically nothing compared to the Enigma runes you're putting in.
As a result, your "lack of def in the base" isn't multiplied out by that and remains comparatively less impactful.
Additionally, if you really care about def, you're not settling for a Mage Plate, you're going for an elite base.
Realistically, a few points of def won't make any noticeable difference in your gameplay and you're good to go with any base you find, so long as the armor type itself is correct (weight, reqs, ..).
That said, if you're at all worried about it, just get a better one either way (assuming you're online and can hence trade for it). While a perfect roll still seems to be around Ohm to Lo (2 for sale here right now), you also have 1 off perfect up for an Ist, or high 250s for a handful of gems/ Pul range, all of which is basically nothing compared to the Enigma runes you're putting in.
you can also just look for a 0 socket mageplate with better defense Larzuk adds 3 sockets to mageplate's
@Avoozl Can give you a 3 OS MP with 244 def for free.
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I buy your Hel runes and Token of Absolution. Check my WTB stash! Also have some free stuff available.
I buy your Hel runes and Token of Absolution. Check my WTB stash! Also have some free stuff available.
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Alright then I'll probably try to find a better Mage Plate, thanks for the responses everyone!
I can give you a 261 def 0os for free. Pm me here if you want.
pm me here (d2. Io) for trade
I've got a 257def 3os MP but it's on ladder atm. It's yours for free if you can wait until the 6th of Dec...
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I just got a better Mage Plate today, but still appreciate the kind offers!
Is there a reason you never considered a Dusk Shroud? I know some don't like how they look, but it has low strength requirements of 77 and a Defense of 361 - 467.Avoozl wrote: 1 month ago I just got a better Mage Plate today, but still appreciate the kind offers!
Please post offer in item trade before adding me on Bnet, I'm in EST time zone (E Coast U.S)
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