Which of these helmets is better for Warlock and what should I socket it with?

Harlequin Crest or

Hellwarden's Will?

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both are good, depends upon what your are doing are you doing fire / apoc build and need to hit breakpoint FCR see above comment.

mojoed1 wrote: 22 hours ago

both are good, depends upon what your are doing are you doing fire / apoc build and need to hit breakpoint FCR see above comment.

Sorry, I'm lvl 93 running

Abyss with

Bind Demon and

Consume maxed out in hard points

are you using

Consume on the bound demon or making use of Defiler to get -10 to enemy magic resistance and +20% to magic skill damage, also does it scale higher?
got 30 softpoints in mine but no hardpoints, and I rarley use it on

Tainted to get more fire dmg.

I would probably use the one with +1 skill & +20% FCR and the minus to Magic / Fire resistances, if you socket it you could add a rainbow facet to get more 5% more skill dmg and more negative enemy res, or use a Uber Ancients Stone.

Im currently using

Shako with

Cham socket, untill I can re-roll a

Diadem with +2 Warkock skill / +20% FCR, hopefully with 1 or 2 sockets, otherwise I'll

Larzuk quest it with 1 and re-roll another for three more Eternity's.....

DrunkAkuma wrote: 21 hours ago

are you using

Consume on the bound demon or making use of Defiler to get -10 to enemy magic resistance and +20% to magic skill damage, also does it scale higher?
got 30 softpoints in mine but no hardpoints, and I rarley use it on

Tainted to get more fire dmg.

I would probably use the one with +1 skill & +20% FCR and the minus to Magic / Fire resistances, if you socket it you could add a rainbow facet to get more 5% more skill dmg and more negative enemy res, or use a Uber Ancients Stone.

Im currently using

Shako with

Cham socket, untill I can re-roll a

Diadem with +2 Warkock skill / +20% FCR, hopefully with 1 or 2 sockets, otherwise I'll

Larzuk quest it with 1 and re-roll another for three more Eternity's.....

I'm using a Defiler and Hephasto. My merc has Insight currently but will soon have Infinity. He's also wearing Fortitude and Anduriel's Visage. I'd also like to socket AV with a FCR jewel of some sort

If you need the fcr to reach a breakpoint i think hellwarden is better, dmg wise is better for sure, but if you have enough dmg

Shako utility is good for p1 gameplay, for mf, survival

I don't think Infinity will help with magic damage, unless I'm mistaken.

feitan1206 wrote: 21 hours ago

If you need the fcr to reach a breakpoint i think hellwarden is better, dmg wise is better for sure, but if you have enough dmg

Shako utility is good for p1 gameplay, for mf, survival

Theres no such thing as enough damage.

More damage = clear faster = more items and less danger

Rhaegar86 wrote: 22 hours ago

mojoed1 wrote: 22 hours ago

both are good, depends upon what your are doing are you doing fire / apoc build and need to hit breakpoint FCR see above comment.

Sorry, I'm lvl 93 running

Abyss with

Bind Demon and

Consume maxed out in hard points

Magic (=defiler)

Consume caps out fairly quickly so you really shouldn't need more than 1 hard pt in

Consume. Even with 0 skills from gear, you still wouldn't need to max it as the bonus caps out well before then.

As for the original question, hellwarden hands down. Unless you're dead set on more MF.
Socket with a

Guardian's Light, if you don't already have one to further bump up your magic/

Abyss dmg.

Since there are no magic rainbow facets,

Abyss locks don't really need much in terms of sockets, apart from that one

Guardian's Light. The rest is effectively just utility (res jewel while still lacking res from gear and such).

Schnorki wrote: 18 hours ago

Rhaegar86 wrote: 22 hours ago

mojoed1 wrote: 22 hours ago

both are good, depends upon what your are doing are you doing fire / apoc build and need to hit breakpoint FCR see above comment.

Sorry, I'm lvl 93 running

Abyss with

Bind Demon and

Consume maxed out in hard points

Magic (=defiler)

Consume caps out fairly quickly so you really shouldn't need more than 1 hard pt in

Consume. Even with 0 skills from gear, you still wouldn't need to max it as the bonus caps out well before then.

As for the original question, hellwarden hands down. Unless you're dead set on more MF.
Socket with a

Guardian's Light, if you don't already have one to further bump up your magic/

Abyss dmg.

Since there are no magic rainbow facets,

Abyss locks don't really need much in terms of sockets, apart from that one

Guardian's Light. The rest is effectively just utility (res jewel while still lacking res from gear and such).

Interesting. My strategy for maxing it out was because I wanted the max duration. In best gear, I'm currently at 680 seconds. Is there a chart somewhere that shows what you gain per skill point? I'd like to see where the point of diminishing returns is

Yep now I’m curious though my AbyssLock is wearing a perfect Kira’s with a 10/6 Guardian Light jewel, using Obsession.

Rhaegar86 wrote: 15 hours ago

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Interesting. My strategy for maxing it out was because I wanted the max duration. In best gear, I'm currently at 680 seconds. Is there a chart somewhere that shows what you gain per skill point? I'd like to see where the point of diminishing returns is

Once you reach proper gear, your "duration to rebuff" is limited anyways, simply because CtA can't be pushed as far as other skills. So once shouts run out, just cycle through everything. Might as well get used to that.
Though even without that, the duration is pretty solid either way.

The actual cut-off for no further gains varies and depends on your consumed demon. For defilers I believe it capped out at lvl 11 (-10/+20). That's typically fairly easy to hit with just soft points for a caster lock. And even if you don't exceed it (which you will in solid gear later on), you still already get a 240 sec duration I believe it was. 4 minutes is a ton in D2 terms. ^^

Yes, further levels do add some life and run speed as well but typically your skill points are more valuable elsewhere.

Wear the

Shako before leaving a game. Switch to Hellwarden's after starting a new game and spawning your demon (with +1 from

Shako). AFAIK, demon flat damage is determined by skill level at the start of a game when it spawns. Boom! Stronger demon, stronger miasma skills!

FerociousTerrier wrote: 13 hours ago

Wear the

Shako before leaving a game. Switch to Hellwarden's after starting a new game and spawning your demon (with +1 from

Shako). AFAIK, demon flat damage is determined by skill level at the start of a game when it spawns. Boom! Stronger demon, stronger miasma skills!

I'm not sure I understand