I think I'm ready for my first Uber run? Or get my butt handed back to me.

Janet the Java wrote: 2 years ago

absolute waste of time.

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

Janet the Java wrote: 2 years ago

absolute waste of time.

Did you PMH-throw him?
(i.e. use a random throwing weapon with prevent monster heal to hit him once and stop his regen)

After that, a sorc can still take him down decently well, depending on the build of course.
Albeit naturally nowhere near the speed of a java or smiter or other such dedicated boss killers.

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Btw, how does

Static Field work with Übers ?

Too high light res ?
As Pally had

Conviction (except for Meph) could have worked perhaps.

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Btw, how does

Static Field work with Übers ?

Too high light res ?
As Pally had

Conviction (except for Meph) could have worked perhaps.

Conviction makes it work quite well. Though with enough crushing on your pally and your urdars, it won't make too much of a difference anymore as that first half will be gone quite quickly either way.

PS:
Ubers, not übers
('tis gringo English after all, albeit derived from 'über' - even if the German version [which by itself isn't as a noun] were to be abused for it though, it wouldn't end with an s..or it'd just be fully spelled out as in 'überdämonen' or some such..unless of course über is their family name, then it'd actually end with an s .... alright, enough smartassing for now)

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Guys, we did it !
Our team of 3 successfully ran Übers yesterday evening... but

Baal was tough.

We: Meteorb sorc level 83 in full

Tal set / Avenger pally level 86 with Grief, Spirit, Drac, Gore / Bonenecro (me) with a few summons level 90 with my New Enigma thx to @Manowar.

Mini übers : all went fine.

Lilith does hit hard and pally started to drink potions but no real issue.

Tristram : for Meph only Pally puts

Salvation. We follow the plan, lure Meph on the top left, and one minute later he is gone through Pally's and Urdars'hit. Pally switches back to

Conviction, my Revives go away and we say OK let's go for the second.

Pally lures

Baal... and the issues start. We drink potions a lot, Pally and I kill... the Effigy, sorc dies... we have to flee back to

Harrogath.

I go back to take bodies with me. That has been painful : no Urdars on Rivers of Flame,

Durance of Hate Level 2 was full of dolls and most Urdars there were Champions. We try again. Kill another

Baal. Wrong one. Sorc dies again and

Baal teleports on me every time and sends his blue arrow. We flee again (poor sorc had almost got her body back...). While I flee my Enigma saves me as

Baal teles just after me but I put him on the full right of

Tristram before taking back portal.

New attempt, we decide to go for Diablo instead of

Baal. Well, like a DClone, he dies in a minute. Sorc gets back her body. We leave to refill pots,

Revive mercs, I go to Palace Cellar to finally go up to 18 Revives (half Urdars and half... whatever was here). I guess most of the hour we spent in

Uber Tristram was my mates waiting and me looking for bodies ^^

And final go for

Baal. Sorc dies again, but I manage to telestomp on here, and Pally is next, amp damage and hit hard. Slowly his life goes does but he does not use Vile Effigy this time. Out potions slowly goes down (mainly for my merc). At 5% life remaining he manages to kill my merc (was to slow to give the full rej, damn). We hit, drink, hit, drink... and he finally falls. I am at half life with one full rejuv left, Pally is not much better, so we go back to town leaving some minions left just to be sure. But we did it !

Then, killing last mobs, standards distribution, getting back to normal setup, congratulations... and torch ID. 19/20 Necro. Of course I wear it now, but 8 hours after am still completely amazed by my luck.

---

Feedback:
- I did not know that you can't use TP scrolls in

Uber Tristram. Fortunately the big brothers never went too close to Red Portal, with my slow load times would have been a real issue.
- The plan above and its explanation is great, thanks all !
- We went with something like 100 full rejuv potions for us 3. We must have ended with 15-ish left... Wow, what a drink party, that was close ! We have to refill a lot now.
- Poor sorc spent her time getting killed and was rather useless unfortunately. Actually would probably have been easier without her as the 3p setup is I believe harder than 2.
- Revives are nice, but had probably the worst setup (none in RoF, scarce in DoH2) I ever had. I used them for all my DClones before, never took so long.
- We feared Über Meph (and got ready to it, with

Salvation we were all above 300 light res). We feared

Lilith. Heard that Über

Baal and über Diablo were easy, second was no issue, but the real issue was

Baal. And his damn Effigy that we must have killed at least 4 times overall ! Have we missed something with him ? As soon as we were completely on him though it was better, but if you're a few inches away it's way worse due to the blue arrow especially.

But wow, it was SO FUN !

...

And I have a crazy TOOOOOOORCH ! (running around the room laughing hysterically like

Baal)

basicnecromancy wrote: 2 years ago

First of all, massive gratz. Did you guys try decrep in the first place?

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

No idea though as why

Baal has been so hard to get while Meph fell in less than a minute and Diablo was by far the easiest (I think my merc needed one pot for him!). I guess mostly everyone else uses smiters to do the job so don't have that issue ?!

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Thanks.

Btw, about minions : vampires for Meph, megademons for Diablo and wraiths for

Baal ? Or is it the other way around ?

It's really the

Teleport + Blue Arrow + Vile Effigy combo that hurt us. Anyway is there any way to know which is the true

Baal ?

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Anyway is there any way to know which is the true

Baal ?

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

basicnecromancy wrote: 2 years ago

First of all, massive gratz. Did you guys try decrep in the first place?

Thanks comrade. I actually hesitated a lot on the curse to use for best result, indeed :
- Pally has Dracs, so procs

Life Tap. As he is our main damage dealer, I used only Amp Damage at fight start and as soon as

Life Tap procs I let it be.
- With DClone, only big stuff we had experience on, Amp Damage works perfectly fine, especially with the Urdars also in the place. So it was my primary option.
- So I have not used Decrep... But was my plan B C D E if the last grabbing of 18 revives + telestomp had failed.

No idea though as why

Baal has been so hard to get while Meph fell in less than a minute and Diablo was by far the easiest (I think my merc needed one pot for him!). I guess mostly everyone else uses smiters to do the job so don't have that issue ?!

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Guys, we did it !
Our team of 3 successfully ran Übers yesterday evening... but

Baal was tough.

We: Meteorb sorc level 83 in full

Tal set / Avenger pally level 86 with Grief, Spirit, Drac, Gore / Bonenecro (me) with a few summons level 90 with my New Enigma thx to @Manowar.

Mini übers : all went fine.

Lilith does hit hard and pally started to drink potions but no real issue.

Tristram : for Meph only Pally puts

Salvation. We follow the plan, lure Meph on the top left, and one minute later he is gone through Pally's and Urdars'hit. Pally switches back to

Conviction, my Revives go away and we say OK let's go for the second.

Pally lures

Baal... and the issues start. We drink potions a lot, Pally and I kill... the Effigy, sorc dies... we have to flee back to

Harrogath.

I go back to take bodies with me. That has been painful : no Urdars on Rivers of Flame,

Durance of Hate Level 2 was full of dolls and most Urdars there were Champions. We try again. Kill another

Baal. Wrong one. Sorc dies again and

Baal teleports on me every time and sends his blue arrow. We flee again (poor sorc had almost got her body back...). While I flee my Enigma saves me as

Baal teles just after me but I put him on the full right of

Tristram before taking back portal.

New attempt, we decide to go for Diablo instead of

Baal. Well, like a DClone, he dies in a minute. Sorc gets back her body. We leave to refill pots,

Revive mercs, I go to Palace Cellar to finally go up to 18 Revives (half Urdars and half... whatever was here). I guess most of the hour we spent in

Uber Tristram was my mates waiting and me looking for bodies ^^

And final go for

Baal. Sorc dies again, but I manage to telestomp on here, and Pally is next, amp damage and hit hard. Slowly his life goes does but he does not use Vile Effigy this time. Out potions slowly goes down (mainly for my merc). At 5% life remaining he manages to kill my merc (was to slow to give the full rej, damn). We hit, drink, hit, drink... and he finally falls. I am at half life with one full rejuv left, Pally is not much better, so we go back to town leaving some minions left just to be sure. But we did it !

Then, killing last mobs, standards distribution, getting back to normal setup, congratulations... and torch ID. 19/20 Necro. Of course I wear it now, but 8 hours after am still completely amazed by my luck.

---

Feedback:
- I did not know that you can't use TP scrolls in

Uber Tristram. Fortunately the big brothers never went too close to Red Portal, with my slow load times would have been a real issue.
- The plan above and its explanation is great, thanks all !
- We went with something like 100 full rejuv potions for us 3. We must have ended with 15-ish left... Wow, what a drink party, that was close ! We have to refill a lot now.
- Poor sorc spent her time getting killed and was rather useless unfortunately. Actually would probably have been easier without her as the 3p setup is I believe harder than 2.
- Revives are nice, but had probably the worst setup (none in RoF, scarce in DoH2) I ever had. I used them for all my DClones before, never took so long.
- We feared Über Meph (and got ready to it, with

Salvation we were all above 300 light res). We feared

Lilith. Heard that Über

Baal and über Diablo were easy, second was no issue, but the real issue was

Baal. And his damn Effigy that we must have killed at least 4 times overall ! Have we missed something with him ? As soon as we were completely on him though it was better, but if you're a few inches away it's way worse due to the blue arrow especially.

But wow, it was SO FUN !

...

And I have a crazy TOOOOOOORCH ! (running around the room laughing hysterically like

Baal)

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Clay Golem was definitely already part of this - against normal

Baal

Clay Golem + decrep do wonders indeed. The time things worked indeed

Baal mostly hit the golem after telestomp, did wonders.

But the other times things were messier, he TPed, cloned and when two Baals start sending blue

Arrows things get much worse.

Thanks for the advice anyway !