Ah, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?Tetra wrote: 2 years ago That already a link in a stick thread:
forums/useful-diablo-2-links-resources-t3232.html
"Trading" section, 2nd links
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Because if you individually stickied all of the useful reference topics in that one combined topic, we would end up with 2 pages of nothing but stickies and normal forum reading would become beyond annoying.Necrarch wrote: 2 years agoAh, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?Tetra wrote: 2 years ago That already a link in a stick thread:
forums/useful-diablo-2-links-resources-t3232.html
"Trading" section, 2nd links

If you reference that one so regularly, you could always create a bookmark directly to it.
Thanks Schnorki, did not notice the bookmark feature. Done it ! Thought that one especially would be very useful to most of us though, but fair enough.Schnorki wrote: 2 years agoBecause if you individually stickied all of the useful reference topics in that one combined topic, we would end up with 2 pages of nothing but stickies and normal forum reading would become beyond annoying.Necrarch wrote: 2 years agoAh, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?Tetra wrote: 2 years ago That already a link in a stick thread:
forums/useful-diablo-2-links-resources-t3232.html
"Trading" section, 2nd links
If you reference that one so regularly, you could always create a bookmark directly to it.

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Matter of taste. Some care about that. Others (like me) wouldn't really use it because rune pricing fluctuates anyways, making the recent price history a much more valuable tool for that.Necrarch wrote: 2 years agoThanks Schnorki, did not notice the bookmark feature. Done it ! Thought that one especially would be very useful to most of us though, but fair enough.Schnorki wrote: 2 years agoBecause if you individually stickied all of the useful reference topics in that one combined topic, we would end up with 2 pages of nothing but stickies and normal forum reading would become beyond annoying.Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago
Ah, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?
If you reference that one so regularly, you could always create a bookmark directly to it.
And yet, some of us do care about some of the other piece stickied within that that you may not care about. So yeah, all/nothing..the summary thread is a solid solution for it.
Hell, I've referenced the armor-appearance one a hell of a lot more often than any of the pricing ones.

A guy told me recently that 3 ohms are worth more than a Sur, because of the runewords which need Ohm and Lo. But a Sur is half a Ber if you decide to cube it. So I dunno, wasn't sure if that was true. Anyone have an opinion on this?
If the latest values are fine, 3 Ohm is between 15 and 17 Ist.
While Sur is more 15 Ist.
So that would be rather true, but with a low margin... so comparable.
If the values of the thread are true of course ! But did seem ok to me for SC Non ladder.
While Sur is more 15 Ist.
So that would be rather true, but with a low margin... so comparable.
If the values of the thread are true of course ! But did seem ok to me for SC Non ladder.

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if we talk about pc-nl-softcore rune market, there r some changes happend in last 2 weeks or so. price of Ber went from 25 Ist to ?. and automaticaly Sur went up from 15 to ?. think that is still not stable so will not write numbers. maybe some1 have better info and can give numbers.

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Zod seems to be around the 11 Ist mark atm, give or take an Ist depending on trader... I realize not alot of people care about the Zod worth... but i like to see some value coming back to the highest ranked rune available.
Maby someone could do a update for the table on the first page?
There's deffo been some fluctations since it was written & trying to decipher the most up to date value's is a slight pain...
Maby someone could do a update for the table on the first page?
There's deffo been some fluctations since it was written & trying to decipher the most up to date value's is a slight pain...
Recopying here latest post for reference :
Any other update ?
If you see Zod at 11 Ist seems not too far from this, same for Sur a little bit less than 3 Ohm.brgljez wrote: 2 years ago at this moment on pc, nonladder, softcore market it goes something like this when u selling.
Pul - 2 x Lem
Um - Pul + Lem + Fal
Mal - Um + Pul
Ist - Mal + Um
Gul - Ist + Mal
Vex - 3 x Ist, Gul + Ist + Um
Ohm - 5 x Ist + Mal, Vex + 2 x Ist + Mal
Lo - 10 x Ist, Ohm + Vex + Ist + Um
Sur - 15 x Ist, Lo + Vex + 2 x Ist
Ber - 25 Ist, Sur + Lo
Jah - 35 Ist, Ber + Lo
Cham - about same as Ohm
Zod - about same as Lo
Any other update ?

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looks like we came to twighlight zone of trading. at this moment u can get 2 Sur for the same price as 1 Ber. this would make sence only if rune cubing is disabled.
looks like we came to twighlight zone of trading. at this moment u can get 2 Sur for the same price as 1 Ber. this would make sence only if rune cubing is disabled.

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The problem with Sur is that it is mainly used as a way to get to Ber by cubing (and it is said so in the Sur page : misc/sur-t1329.html). Pride, Last Wish and Dragon are not super common runewords.
So it's not illogical that it comes closer and closer to half a Ber.
But indeed, as Ber are at about 30 Ist, and Sur stayed at about 15 Ist, there you are.


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To sum it up briefly, almost as useful, but lower drop rate.

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Well, Jah has been more expensive than Ber for quite a while.
It always comes down to supply and demand. People don't cube 2 bers for a Jah. But they do cube 2 Sur for a Ber. So for that reason, Ber is more available since it can be found and cubed up 2.
It always comes down to supply and demand. People don't cube 2 bers for a Jah. But they do cube 2 Sur for a Ber. So for that reason, Ber is more available since it can be found and cubed up 2.
Jah has better drop rate than Ber.
After making Infinity and Enigma (x1Jah and x3Ber), there is no much use of Ber but you have many useful and popular runeword for Jah.
You can make Beast, CoH, Last Wish, add Ber to socketd weapon and armor.
While for Jah, that is 2x Dream, Last Wish (x3 Jah), Faith, Phoenix, Ice.
After making Infinity and Enigma (x1Jah and x3Ber), there is no much use of Ber but you have many useful and popular runeword for Jah.
You can make Beast, CoH, Last Wish, add Ber to socketd weapon and armor.
While for Jah, that is 2x Dream, Last Wish (x3 Jah), Faith, Phoenix, Ice.
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Ah, learnt that, thanks. Indeed, seems patch 1.13 has inverted drop rate that was in the cubing order before ( Jah/ Ber, Sur/ Lo, Ohm/ Vex, Gul/ Ist, Mal/ Um) for high runes, before Amn it's messy with least likely being... Eld.

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For what it's worth, you would be better off monitoring the price in Forum Gold on D2jsp to find what value a given rune has at any point in time than trying to set a static rune equivalency value. Reason I say that is you could trade in your Ber found day 5 of ladder for forum gold on d2jsp, then hold that forum gold until week 2 and buy two Ber runes and have your Infinity, rather than thinking of Ber as = 10 high runes [or whatever], you could think of Ber @ TimeValue(Now()) = $$$ Forum Gold $$$. Then you will understand the time value of money and why rune prices fluctuate dramatically over the course of a season.
That would be assuming that the person having an early Ber is okay with using that forum to begin with.
A forum that began by selling a bot, and to this day, is still homing most botters, and dupers.
A forum that began by selling a bot, and to this day, is still homing most botters, and dupers.
For the sake of this topic more importantly:
A forum that has its very own economy, with prices not necessarily representative of other sites and/or in-game pricing. Often times not even remotely close (based on all of the FG whiners who demanded I sell them stuff for "ZOMG IS XYZ FG XYZ FG IS Um U SELL FOR Um NAU!" while normal in-game pricing is at Vex or the like).
A forum that has its very own economy, with prices not necessarily representative of other sites and/or in-game pricing. Often times not even remotely close (based on all of the FG whiners who demanded I sell them stuff for "ZOMG IS XYZ FG XYZ FG IS Um U SELL FOR Um NAU!" while normal in-game pricing is at Vex or the like).
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