I mean, he’s lightning immune, and even when sundered Conviction only works at 1/5 effect. So he has far more resistance than the others who are not lightning immune.
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Uber Madawc has 120 light res (95 with sunder. Tstroke adds -15, Infinity adds -17), the other two only have 70 light res (Tstroke adds -15, Infinity adds -85). The difference is huge.ganseng wrote: 23 hours ago
with Thunderstroke, it's all but impossible not to kill Madawc last. somehow he takes forever, the other two just disappear. some weird Conviction interaction?
Edit: Shadowheart was faster (again).
yeah, what I mean is that he's relatively harder to kill than the other two with Thunderstroke than with InfinityShadowHeart wrote: 22 hours agoI mean, he’s lightning immune, and even when sundered Conviction only works at 1/5 effect. So he has far more resistance than the others who are not lightning immune.
With my gear:
Infinity vs him he has net negative 10 res, the other two negative 100 res; he should take ~half the dmg than the other two
Thunderstroke vs him he has 41 res, the other two 16 res; he should take 70% of the dmg of the other two
but it feels like with Infinity he takes ~50% less, and with Thunderstroke he takes ~70% less
Well if you feel inclined, you could always start counting the hits it takes.
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Assuming your zon is equipping Infinity I believe the neg-rez takes effect on hit after Conviction aura is applied so even with the penalty that is significant. Losing shield and range options for maybe ~15% extra damage would depend on your play style more than anything else. Definitely would be the maximum spearazon damage especially now that you can use Matriarchal Spear !ganseng wrote: 22 hours agoyeah, what I mean is that he's relatively harder to kill than the other two with Thunderstroke than with InfinityShadowHeart wrote: 22 hours agoI mean, he’s lightning immune, and even when sundered Conviction only works at 1/5 effect. So he has far more resistance than the others who are not lightning immune.
With my gear:
Infinity vs him he has net negative 10 res, the other two negative 100 res; he should take ~half the dmg than the other two
Thunderstroke vs him he has 41 res, the other two 16 res; he should take 70% of the dmg of the other two
but it feels like with Infinity he takes ~50% less, and with Thunderstroke he takes ~70% less
The Level 12 Conviction aura from Infinity is not capable of breaking Uber Madawc Lightning immunity. The -% Lightning resustance from Thunderstroke doesn’t work with Lightning imunes. -% Lightning resistance works 100% after immunity is broken. In order to Conviction work, you must have the sunder charm.
Ofc I have a sunder charm, a perfect -10, and a perfect Griffon's Eye, with an almost perfect Guardian's Thunder (-9). My Infinity is -49. I don't use Infinity on merc when using Thunderstroke
So, against Talic & Korlic my -elr is 173 with Infinity and 54 with Thunderstroke. Against Madawc it's 105 and 54 respectively. Taking onto account their respective resistances, dmg output ratio vs Madawc compared to the other two is 0.55 with Infinity and 0.7 with Thunderstroke.
But comparative kill speed isn't consistent with these values
Or rather, 0.55 is plausible with Infinity, but 0.7 isn't plausible with Thunderstroke. It's rather 0.2 to 0.3 with Thunderstroke
I had noticed a similar anomaly before when i killed them with Infinity and a +15 sunder charm instead of the -10 one. The loss of -10 res had a disproportionate effect on the dmg output vs Madawc
Something doesn't add up here
So, against Talic & Korlic my -elr is 173 with Infinity and 54 with Thunderstroke. Against Madawc it's 105 and 54 respectively. Taking onto account their respective resistances, dmg output ratio vs Madawc compared to the other two is 0.55 with Infinity and 0.7 with Thunderstroke.
But comparative kill speed isn't consistent with these values
Or rather, 0.55 is plausible with Infinity, but 0.7 isn't plausible with Thunderstroke. It's rather 0.2 to 0.3 with Thunderstroke
I had noticed a similar anomaly before when i killed them with Infinity and a +15 sunder charm instead of the -10 one. The loss of -10 res had a disproportionate effect on the dmg output vs Madawc
Something doesn't add up here
Is there some non-linearity in damage taking (e.g. magic damage reduced by X or lightning absorb Y for the Uancients? This could explain your observation. (Just speculating)
Nah, it's pretty quick.
With good gear, around 1 minute flat.
With good gear, around 1 minute flat.
FerociousTerrier wrote: 1 week agoHow fast does a smiter do Ancients? From the few videos I've seen, it isn't suuper fast, just "pretty safe" in that you consistently keep topping off your health globe. I'm curious if a smiter is still king when a chainslock can massacre ancients in under 2 min pretty safely.
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