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Necrarch 2111Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
Tetra wrote: 2 years ago
That already a link in a stick thread:
forums/useful-diablo-2-links-resources-t3232.html
"Trading" section, 2nd links
Ah, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
Annihilus
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Schnorki 3879Moderator

PC
Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago
Tetra wrote: 2 years ago
That already a link in a stick thread:
forums/useful-diablo-2-links-resources-t3232.html
"Trading" section, 2nd links
Ah, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?
Because if you individually stickied all of the useful reference topics in that one combined topic, we would end up with 2 pages of nothing but stickies and normal forum reading would become beyond annoying. ;)
If you reference that one so regularly, you could always create a bookmark directly to it.
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Necrarch 2111Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago
Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago
Tetra wrote: 2 years ago
That already a link in a stick thread:
forums/useful-diablo-2-links-resources-t3232.html
"Trading" section, 2nd links
Ah, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?
Because if you individually stickied all of the useful reference topics in that one combined topic, we would end up with 2 pages of nothing but stickies and normal forum reading would become beyond annoying. ;)
If you reference that one so regularly, you could always create a bookmark directly to it.
Thanks Schnorki, did not notice the bookmark feature. Done it ! Thought that one especially would be very useful to most of us though, but fair enough.

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
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Schnorki 3879Moderator

PC
Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago
Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago
Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago


Ah, missed that one, indeed. But why jumping through one topic to fall down on that one that I tend to go for at least once a week ?
Because if you individually stickied all of the useful reference topics in that one combined topic, we would end up with 2 pages of nothing but stickies and normal forum reading would become beyond annoying. ;)
If you reference that one so regularly, you could always create a bookmark directly to it.
Thanks Schnorki, did not notice the bookmark feature. Done it ! Thought that one especially would be very useful to most of us though, but fair enough.
Matter of taste. Some care about that. Others (like me) wouldn't really use it because rune pricing fluctuates anyways, making the recent price history a much more valuable tool for that.

And yet, some of us do care about some of the other piece stickied within that that you may not care about. So yeah, all/nothing..the summary thread is a solid solution for it.
Hell, I've referenced the armor-appearance one a hell of a lot more often than any of the pricing ones. ;)
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A guy told me recently that 3 ohms are worth more than a
Sur
, because of the runewords which need
Ohm
and
Lo
. But a
Sur
is half a
Ber
if you decide to cube it. So I dunno, wasn't sure if that was true. Anyone have an opinion on this?
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Necrarch 2111Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
If the latest values are fine, 3
Ohm
is between 15 and 17
Ist
.
While
Sur
is more 15
Ist
.

So that would be rather true, but with a low margin... so comparable.
If the values of the thread are true of course ! But did seem ok to me for SC Non ladder.

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Annihilus
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if we talk about pc-nl-softcore rune market, there r some changes happend in last 2 weeks or so. price of
Ber
went from 25
Ist
to ?. and automaticaly
Sur
went up from 15 to ?. think that is still not stable so will not write numbers. maybe some1 have better info and can give numbers.

Image...ladder also
if online, contact me via bn chat for fast trade or negotiations after placing reply here.
If u need help with SCNL "Socket" quest, ubers or waypoints, feel free to contact me. Will gladly help.
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Zod
seems to be around the 11
Ist
mark atm, give or take an
Ist
depending on trader... I realize not alot of people care about the
Zod
worth... but i like to see some value coming back to the highest ranked rune available.
Maby someone could do a update for the table on the first page?
There's deffo been some fluctations since it was written & trying to decipher the most up to date value's is a slight pain...
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Necrarch 2111Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
Recopying here latest post for reference :
brgljez wrote: 2 years ago
at this moment on pc, nonladder, softcore market it goes something like this when u selling.

Pul
- 2 x
Lem

Um
-
Pul
+
Lem
+
Fal

Mal
-
Um
+
Pul

Ist
-
Mal
+
Um

Gul
-
Ist
+
Mal

Vex
- 3 x
Ist
,
Gul
+
Ist
+
Um

Ohm
- 5 x
Ist
+
Mal
,
Vex
+ 2 x
Ist
+
Mal

Lo
- 10 x
Ist
,
Ohm
+
Vex
+
Ist
+
Um

Sur
- 15 x
Ist
,
Lo
+
Vex
+ 2 x
Ist

Ber
- 25
Ist
,
Sur
+
Lo

Jah
- 35
Ist
,
Ber
+
Lo

Cham
- about same as
Ohm

Zod
- about same as
Lo
If you see
Zod
at 11
Ist
seems not too far from this, same for
Sur
a little bit less than 3
Ohm
.

Any other update ?

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Annihilus
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PC NL SC
looks like we came to twighlight zone of trading. at this moment u can get 2
Sur
for the same price as 1
Ber
. this would make sence only if rune cubing is disabled.

Image...ladder also
if online, contact me via bn chat for fast trade or negotiations after placing reply here.
If u need help with SCNL "Socket" quest, ubers or waypoints, feel free to contact me. Will gladly help.
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Necrarch 2111Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
brgljez wrote: 2 years ago
PC NL SC
looks like we came to twighlight zone of trading. at this moment u can get 2
Sur
for the same price as 1
Ber
. this would make sence only if rune cubing is disabled.
The problem with
Sur
is that it is mainly used as a way to get to
Ber
by cubing (and it is said so in the
Sur
page : misc/sur-t1329.html). Pride, Last Wish and Dragon are not super common runewords.

So it's not illogical that it comes closer and closer to half a
Ber
.
But indeed, as
Ber
are at about 30
Ist
, and
Sur
stayed at about 15
Ist
, there you are. :)

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
Annihilus
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Why
Jah
now is much more expensive then
Ber
?)
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Necrarch 2111Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
To sum it up briefly, almost as useful, but lower drop rate.

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
Annihilus
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Well,
Jah
has been more expensive than
Ber
for quite a while.
It always comes down to supply and demand. People don't cube 2 bers for a
Jah
. But they do cube 2
Sur
for a
Ber
. So for that reason,
Ber
is more available since it can be found and cubed up 2.
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Jah
has better drop rate than
Ber
.

After making Infinity and Enigma (x1Jah and x3Ber), there is no much use of
Ber
but you have many useful and popular runeword for
Jah
.

You can make Beast, CoH, Last Wish, add
Ber
to socketd weapon and armor.
While for
Jah
, that is 2x Dream, Last Wish (x3
Jah
), Faith, Phoenix, Ice.

pm me here (d2.
Io
) for trade
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Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago
To sum it up briefly, almost as useful, but lower drop rate.
acctually,
Jah
got higher drop rate than
Ber

Image...ladder also
if online, contact me via bn chat for fast trade or negotiations after placing reply here.
If u need help with SCNL "Socket" quest, ubers or waypoints, feel free to contact me. Will gladly help.
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Necrarch 2111Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
brgljez wrote: 2 years ago
Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago
To sum it up briefly, almost as useful, but lower drop rate.
acctually,
Jah
got higher drop rate than
Ber
Ah, learnt that, thanks. Indeed, seems patch 1.13 has inverted drop rate that was in the cubing order before (
Jah
/
Ber
,
Sur
/
Lo
,
Ohm
/
Vex
,
Gul
/
Ist
,
Mal
/
Um
) for high runes, before
Amn
it's messy with least likely being...
Eld
.

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
Annihilus
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For what it's worth, you would be better off monitoring the price in Forum Gold on D2jsp to find what value a given rune has at any point in time than trying to set a static rune equivalency value. Reason I say that is you could trade in your
Ber
found day 5 of ladder for forum gold on d2jsp, then hold that forum gold until week 2 and buy two
Ber
runes and have your Infinity, rather than thinking of
Ber
as = 10 high runes [or whatever], you could think of
Ber
@ TimeValue(Now()) = $$$ Forum Gold $$$. Then you will understand the time value of money and why rune prices fluctuate dramatically over the course of a season.
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Tetra 185

Paladin Europe PC
That would be assuming that the person having an early
Ber
is okay with using that forum to begin with.
A forum that began by selling a bot, and to this day, is still homing most botters, and dupers.
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Schnorki 3879Moderator

PC
For the sake of this topic more importantly:
A forum that has its very own economy, with prices not necessarily representative of other sites and/or in-game pricing. Often times not even remotely close (based on all of the FG whiners who demanded I sell them stuff for "ZOMG IS XYZ FG XYZ FG IS
Um
U SELL FOR
Um
NAU!" while normal in-game pricing is at
Vex
or the like).
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