reroll strategy for small simmering charms

Like the title suggests, can someone explain to me what are my chances to get the simmering prefix on small charms?
What lvl character is best done with and what lvl charms do I need for best results?

Character level when rerolling doesn't matter, just the level of the area where the charm was found. I'm not sure what the lowest level Shimmering can appear is, but I do know that when rerolling GRAND charms, any found in a TZ lvl 91 or higher will do. Not sure if this is the same with Small Charms, as most people don't reroll them.

For "shimmering" prefix you need iLvl 47. But if you want to reroll SCs, you should aim for "shimmering small charm of vita". Suffix "of Vita" requires an iLvl of 61.

As mentioned before iLvl is independent of character level. It depends on the monster's level that dropped it, which depends on the area of the monster.

krathkor wrote: 1 day ago

i thought affix lvl and required item lvl were the same...

Shimmering All Resistances +3-5% Small Charms(33)
Vita +16-20 Life Small Charms(47)

No. In the game files, each affix has an affix level and a required level. These are separate fields. Required level is always lower than affix level (IIRC), generally the required level is around 75% of the affix level but there are exceptions - for example, skiller prefixes (on grand charms) all have affix level 50 but require level 42 to use.

ilvl needs to be greater than or equal to the affix level to be able to roll that affix when an item is generated.

People reroll small charms?

D2Veteran wrote: 1 day ago

If all you're interested in is the Shimmering prefix on small charms, the odds are as follows assuming the charm is iLvl 47, the lowest possible, giving you the best odds:

+3 All Resists = 1 in 146
+4 All Resists = 1 in 219
+5 All Resists = 1 in 438

The best place to find iLvl 47 small charms is Nightmare Act II: Harem 2, Palace Cellar 1 & 2 and Claw Viper Temple 1 & 2. Source

Keep in mind that Terrorized Zones have different level monsters in them dependant on the cLvl of the player who created the game, so avoid TZ games.

The odds of getting exactly +3, +4, or +5 are the same. The odds you got are for at least +3 (+3/+4/+5 => 3x as likely as +5) and at least +4 (+4/+5 => 2x as likely as +5).

BigD wrote: 1 day ago

People reroll small charms?

Usually you don't because rerolling grand charms has the higher RoI.

D2Veteran wrote: 1 day ago

If all you're interested in is the Shimmering prefix on small charms, the odds are as follows assuming the charm is iLvl 47, the lowest possible, giving you the best odds:

+3 All Resists = 1 in 146
+4 All Resists = 1 in 219
+5 All Resists = 1 in 438

The best place to find iLvl 47 small charms is Nightmare Act II: Harem 2, Palace Cellar 1 & 2 and Claw Viper Temple 1 & 2. Source

Keep in mind that Terrorized Zones have different level monsters in them dependant on the cLvl of the player who created the game, so avoid TZ games.

I think (not entirely sure) that ilvl 47 is also required for the "of vita" suffix. Apparently it's also the same for 7% mf. The vita suffix does change the required level so I'm not super confident. Farming a small charm at the lowest possible level is probably the most advantageous.

For those who didn't know people re-roll small charms, yup. Some of them are very sought-after and valuable.

i think small charms have too much variance. grand charms having a higher roi, despite the top gc being worth a lot less.

godjira1 wrote: 3 hours ago

i think small charms have too much variance. grand charms having a higher roi, despite the top gc being worth a lot less.

You're assuming online I think.

Offline you can get to a place where your grand charms are within a point where rolling an improvement is very unlikely, and yet still have small charms in a situation where they need much improvement. So, for example, supposing your offline GC situation for the characters you're building is a minimum of +20 life, but you're using a small charm that has no life on it. The question is can you roll an appropriate skill +40 life GC faster than the corresponding appropriate prefix +20 life small charm.

As an example for my Nova sorc, she currently has one skill GC that has only +6 strength (this is equivalent to something like +12 life). I'm still looking for a +life GC for her because of this. But if i found one, then I might be more interested in rolling an 11 PR 7% MF or an 11 PR 20 life or even a 17/20 mana life small charm because the likelihood of getting that 20+ GC drops off. And if I can make multiple GG small charms work with her setup, that could make it far more likely to roll an improvement in a small charm.

Anyway, just a consideration. It depends specifically on needs.

departure wrote: 3 hours ago

D2Veteran wrote: 1 day ago

If all you're interested in is the Shimmering prefix on small charms, the odds are as follows assuming the charm is iLvl 47, the lowest possible, giving you the best odds:

+3 All Resists = 1 in 146
+4 All Resists = 1 in 219
+5 All Resists = 1 in 438

The best place to find iLvl 47 small charms is Nightmare Act II: Harem 2, Palace Cellar 1 & 2 and Claw Viper Temple 1 & 2. Source

Keep in mind that Terrorized Zones have different level monsters in them dependant on the cLvl of the player who created the game, so avoid TZ games.

I think (not entirely sure) that ilvl 47 is also required for the "of vita" suffix. Apparently it's also the same for 7% mf. The vita suffix does change the required level so I'm not super confident. Farming a small charm at the lowest possible level is probably the most advantageous.

For those who didn't know people re-roll small charms, yup. Some of them are very sought-after and valuable.

As mentioned above:
- The required character level is 75% of the required iLvl for an affix.
- The required iLvl for suffix "of Vita" is 61.

If you want to go down the Rabbit Hole, start here: https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/i ... /suf.shtml

Details about small charms:
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/i ... arms.shtml

vued wrote: 1 hour ago

As mentioned above:
- The required character level is 75% of the required iLvl for an affix.
- The required iLvl for suffix "of Vita" is 61.

Yup, I see where I had it wrong.

vued wrote: 7 hours ago

BigD wrote: 1 day ago

People reroll small charms?

Usually you don't because rerolling grand charms has the higher RoI.

That's what i meant lol

BigD wrote: 1 hour ago

vued wrote: 7 hours ago

BigD wrote: 1 day ago

People reroll small charms?

Usually you don't because rerolling grand charms has the higher RoI.

That's what i meant lol

Well, offline economics don't apply. You might even start rerolling magic monarchs, circlets, and armors to get a jewelers one.