How does conviction affects iron golem

I'm asking on behalf of my friend:

If I make a golem completely immune to all elements, does the enemies

Conviction work in full or is there a 1/5th penalty, the same way it works when a player uses

Conviction against a monster.

Also, how does the -100 work against the immune golem/other summons against Uber ancients.

It's a bit complicated.

According to the Immune article on Amazon Basin (specifically the "Remove" section at the bottom), it depends on whether the immunity is inherent or dependent on skill/item bonuses.

The article in question uses

Iron Golem as an example. An

Iron Golem is inherently immune to poison (100% poison resistance), and has 50% lightning resistance. If made from an item that grants +50% lightning resistance and assuming level 6

Summon Resist (+50% to all resistances), the

Iron Golem would have 150% in both poison and lightning resistance, and be immune to both. If an enemy casts level 10

Lower Resist on it (which applies -55% to all resistances), the

Iron Golem would lose the lightning immunity but not the poison immunity. This is because the lightning immunity was granted via skills & items, and in that case

Lower Resist works at full effect (150 - 55 = 95% resistance), whereas the poison immunity is inherent so

Lower Resist works at 1/5 effect meaning it would still have 139% poison resistance (150 - 55/5).

So, following this example,

Conviction would work at full effect vs immunities granted via items or skills (

Summon Resist), but not vs inherent immunities (like

Fire Golem's fire immunity).

Crimmy wrote: 5 hours ago

Also, how does the -100 work against the immune golem/other summons against Uber ancients

This I'm not sure of.

EDIT: My best guess is that it works the same way as for

Conviction, because at a quick glance in the game files, it seems like "Talic's Fire Pierce", "Madawc's Lightning Pierce", and "Korlic's Cold Pierce" (those are the aura names) are all based on

Conviction (just simply applying -res to only their respective element, instead of all three, being capped at -100 instead of -150, and not applying any -def).

Thank you very much!

Also if anyone is wondering or has a good suggestion my friend is trying to use Iron Golems made from Bone Snaps against Ubers and he is a necromancer

Crimmy wrote: 3 hours ago

Also if anyone is wondering or has a good suggestion my friend is trying to use Iron Golems made from Bone Snaps against Ubers and he is a necromancer

I think Obedience would be better,

Iron Golem might have trouble hitting the ubers and

Enchant should help as well as the resists. Also some source of open wounds or poison to prevent their healing is v important

hmm i'm still wondering why

Valkyrie often appears invulnerable. does she have default pdr or mdr? it's unlikely (impossible) that rare gear would provide physical or magic immunity
elemental resistances are not unlikely to reach immunities with 85% base and the gear bonuses

and how is

Iron Golem on high lvl, also super survivable? tried it once from

Metalgrid and

Dreadfang, died instantly in non-tz wsk