but i could technically still raise them ? or is there a minion Cap i mean damage is damage right ?Winterkill wrote: 3 months ago Schnorki did a great job explaining Iron Golem. I run Uber Tristram on my Poison/Summon Hybrid necro and I rarely lose my Insight Iron Golem, purely by virtue of Enigma's Teleport.
As for Mages, they're just too bad.
Their damage is poor, they're ranged and thus are slow to engage targets, their attack speed is meh, and their elemental damage doesn't benefit from the Amplify Damage or Decrepify you'll be using. Using Lower Resist robs your merc, golem, and melee skellies and doesn't benefit Corpse Explosion as much as Amp. Being ranged, they also don't tank for you the way the melee skellies will.
Thus, they don't really bring anything to the table. Merc + Melee skellies are more than enough for most situations, Revives have their place, such as Urdars vs bosses. Corpse Explosion already does fire damage to offset your otherwise heavily physical team.
There's a Cap for each minion type that increases with skill level. I.e. more skeletons with levels there, more skeletal mages with levels there, more revives with levels there. That's specific to each type though so raising a mage does not mean you get one less melee Skeleton and vice versa. You can have both.Eisenbauch wrote: 3 months agobut i could technically still raise them ? or is there a minion Cap i mean damage is damage right ?Winterkill wrote: 3 months ago Schnorki did a great job explaining Iron Golem. I run Uber Tristram on my Poison/Summon Hybrid necro and I rarely lose my Insight Iron Golem, purely by virtue of Enigma's Teleport.
As for Mages, they're just too bad.
Their damage is poor, they're ranged and thus are slow to engage targets, their attack speed is meh, and their elemental damage doesn't benefit from the Amplify Damage or Decrepify you'll be using. Using Lower Resist robs your merc, golem, and melee skellies and doesn't benefit Corpse Explosion as much as Amp. Being ranged, they also don't tank for you the way the melee skellies will.
Thus, they don't really bring anything to the table. Merc + Melee skellies are more than enough for most situations, Revives have their place, such as Urdars vs bosses. Corpse Explosion already does fire damage to offset your otherwise heavily physical team.
Eisenbauch wrote: 4 months ago Hey again
i want to try out Summon necro for the first time and have some questions
how do you make a Iron Golem tanky enough to not be afraid that hes dying i see alot of necros running Insight Iron Golem but dont i have to be afraid of him dying to lets say uber diablo ?
i also dont see any summon necros raising mages why ?
also any tipps would be welcome thanks ! c:
Eisenbauch wrote: 3 months agobut i could technically still raise them ? or is there a minion Cap i mean damage is damage right ?Winterkill wrote: 3 months ago Schnorki did a great job explaining Iron Golem. I run Uber Tristram on my Poison/Summon Hybrid necro and I rarely lose my Insight Iron Golem, purely by virtue of Enigma's Teleport.
As for Mages, they're just too bad.
Their damage is poor, they're ranged and thus are slow to engage targets, their attack speed is meh, and their elemental damage doesn't benefit from the Amplify Damage or Decrepify you'll be using. Using Lower Resist robs your merc, golem, and melee skellies and doesn't benefit Corpse Explosion as much as Amp. Being ranged, they also don't tank for you the way the melee skellies will.
Thus, they don't really bring anything to the table. Merc + Melee skellies are more than enough for most situations, Revives have their place, such as Urdars vs bosses. Corpse Explosion already does fire damage to offset your otherwise heavily physical team.
I done a little different on my skills:basicnecromancy wrote: 3 months ago This is my version.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/9fna047k#4
You can change the weapon and shield with the usual suspects, ofc. I'd like to maximize summon skills, that's why I go this way. If you play P1, this skill distribution is ok. If you ply higher player counts, you can change it and make your Iron Golem stronger.
What you wrote is also goes parallel with the beauty of this build. You can mainly be done with it at lvl41 basically. 20p into Raise Skeleton and Skeleton Mastery, and 1p wonders, ready.fredkid wrote: 3 months ago
I done a little different on my skills:
- Only 1 point in Golem Mastery
plus skills are enough for Iron Golem be strong enough to not dying
(you put 10)
- 20 Corpse Explosion
Maximize the range, as more range = more monster hit/killed
(you put only 1)
Um should be in the shield instead of Shako, since it gives 22@ there:). Also, Bone Break worths a slot for sure.basicnecromancy wrote: 3 months ago This is my version.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/9fna047k#4
You can change the weapon and shield with the usual suspects, ofc. I'd like to maximize summon skills, that's why I go this way. If you play P1, this skill distribution is ok. If you ply higher player counts, you can change it and make your Iron Golem stronger.
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