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Hey,
my favourite of them all, the bowzon.
going for hybrid frost/physical(have cold sunder-but that's about it, so can't go full cold yet)
I'm SSF, on p8.
yes i know not an ideal bowzon players X, but that's the way i like it. until i reach hell at least.
so some questions, regarding mid-game and end game:
1) I have Lycander's Aim, mage Wrath, Witchwild String. also its very easy to create Harmony or Melody
all basically the same round level 40ish.
so my bet is Harmony or Lycander's Aim and dualing weapon swap with Witchwild String, I also have Wizendraw which could help with frost damage, if upgraded.
what do you think is better for mid-game?
2) stats. it seems for creating a decent bow with runes i need a base which requires around 150 dex and 100str, at least.
when do i put points into vitality, if any? because the thirst for AR is bad in these builds(phys).
3) armor- I can make Fortitude. but it's my only Lo.
there is Treachery, and now Hustle. also I am afraid to use my only Lo for Fortitude, if i can abuse it on Ice.
is Peace also worth it for mid-start-game?
4) Helm, I have Delirium, but i might need something else to counter my sunder charm.
5) end game-no Ice. so hopefully something will turn up that can help me make a Faith or even find an Eaglehorn or Windforce.
or find some serious lower cold res stuff that could restat her to full frostmaiden.
thanks for any tips/recommendations
plz no starfe, or fire.
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my favourite of them all, the bowzon.
going for hybrid frost/physical(have cold sunder-but that's about it, so can't go full cold yet)
I'm SSF, on p8.
yes i know not an ideal bowzon players X, but that's the way i like it. until i reach hell at least.
so some questions, regarding mid-game and end game:
1) I have Lycander's Aim, mage Wrath, Witchwild String. also its very easy to create Harmony or Melody
all basically the same round level 40ish.
so my bet is Harmony or Lycander's Aim and dualing weapon swap with Witchwild String, I also have Wizendraw which could help with frost damage, if upgraded.
what do you think is better for mid-game?
2) stats. it seems for creating a decent bow with runes i need a base which requires around 150 dex and 100str, at least.
when do i put points into vitality, if any? because the thirst for AR is bad in these builds(phys).
3) armor- I can make Fortitude. but it's my only Lo.
there is Treachery, and now Hustle. also I am afraid to use my only Lo for Fortitude, if i can abuse it on Ice.
is Peace also worth it for mid-start-game?
4) Helm, I have Delirium, but i might need something else to counter my sunder charm.
5) end game-no Ice. so hopefully something will turn up that can help me make a Faith or even find an Eaglehorn or Windforce.
or find some serious lower cold res stuff that could restat her to full frostmaiden.
thanks for any tips/recommendations
plz no starfe, or fire.
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Hey,
my favourite of them all, the bowzon.
going for hybrid frost/physical(have cold sunder-but that's about it, so can't go full cold yet)
I'm SSF, on p8.
yes i know not an ideal bowzon players X, but that's the way i like it. until i reach hell at least.
so some questions, regarding mid-game and end game:
1) I have Lycander's Aim, mage Wrath, Witchwild String. also its very easy to create Harmony or Melody
all basically the same round level 40ish.
so my bet is Harmony or Lycander's Aim and dualing weapon swap with Witchwild String, I also have Wizendraw which could help with frost damage, if upgraded.
what do you think is better for mid-game?
2) stats. it seems for creating a decent bow with runes i need a base which requires around 150 dex and 100str, at least.
when do i put points into vitality, if any? because the thirst for AR is bad in these builds(phys).
3) armor- I can make Fortitude. but it's my only Lo.
there is Treachery, and now Hustle. also I am afraid to use my only Lo for Fortitude, if i can abuse it on Ice.
is Peace also worth it for mid-start-game?
4) Helm, I have Delirium, but i might need something else to counter my sunder charm.
5) end game-no Ice. so hopefully something will turn up that can help me make a Faith or even find an Eaglehorn or Windforce.
or find some serious lower cold res stuff that could restat her to full frostmaiden.
thanks for any tips/recommendations
plz no starfe, or fire.
my favourite of them all, the bowzon.
going for hybrid frost/physical(have cold sunder-but that's about it, so can't go full cold yet)
I'm SSF, on p8.
yes i know not an ideal bowzon players X, but that's the way i like it. until i reach hell at least.
so some questions, regarding mid-game and end game:
1) I have Lycander's Aim, mage Wrath, Witchwild String. also its very easy to create Harmony or Melody
all basically the same round level 40ish.
so my bet is Harmony or Lycander's Aim and dualing weapon swap with Witchwild String, I also have Wizendraw which could help with frost damage, if upgraded.
what do you think is better for mid-game?
2) stats. it seems for creating a decent bow with runes i need a base which requires around 150 dex and 100str, at least.
when do i put points into vitality, if any? because the thirst for AR is bad in these builds(phys).
3) armor- I can make Fortitude. but it's my only Lo.
there is Treachery, and now Hustle. also I am afraid to use my only Lo for Fortitude, if i can abuse it on Ice.
is Peace also worth it for mid-start-game?
4) Helm, I have Delirium, but i might need something else to counter my sunder charm.
5) end game-no Ice. so hopefully something will turn up that can help me make a Faith or even find an Eaglehorn or Windforce.
or find some serious lower cold res stuff that could restat her to full frostmaiden.
thanks for any tips/recommendations
plz no starfe, or fire.
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
If sticking with cold then Wizendraw is a good option. Harmony will carry you for a bit but I think Wizendraw is your best bet for cold from listed. Attack speed, cold res for sunder, and huge - cold res to monsters.
That said, have you looked into Mist. I'm not 100% sure if you can make it single player, and the Cham might be an issue; but if you can it could be great. +3 all skills (up to +6 for your cold skills), 100% Pierce, 20% IAS and 40 all res.
Dbrunski did a video about it here, although he was cold/fire hybrid.
When it comes to stats, my guess would be put them in vitality. A physical bowazon needs all that dex for damage, but I'm not sure how much physical damage a cold bowa needs. And I'm guessing players 8 hits like a truck.
For armor, I'm leaning towards Treachery. Again I don't know if the ED from fort works for elemental and the extra attack speed frees up some other gear. 100% Pierce is a must for elementals so you're going to want to run Razortail rather than needing an increased attack speed Belt.
Peace is okay, because of the Valk proc. But if you run a Valk in skills you will be recasting whenever she gets proc.
As for helms, if we're wish shopping then Nightwing's Veil. I found mine in WSK running Baal runs. Otherwise, am I crazy for thinking Shako? Mf, health, mana, skills, DR. Doing some diablo/mephy runs should net you that pretty quick. The Delirium should be okay for now, but one alternative for the Delirium is the Manic Pixie Dream Girl from here
forums/manic-pixie-dreamgirl-an-alterna ... 65231.html
And lastly, end game. You say no Ice, why not. You have the Lo, and if you're hoping for a Faith then you are hoping for a Jah, which is your last piece for Ice.
This is an old guide from MrLlamaSC about the cold bowa.
https://www.icy-veins.com/d2/freezing-a ... azon-build
That said, have you looked into Mist. I'm not 100% sure if you can make it single player, and the Cham might be an issue; but if you can it could be great. +3 all skills (up to +6 for your cold skills), 100% Pierce, 20% IAS and 40 all res.
Dbrunski did a video about it here, although he was cold/fire hybrid.
When it comes to stats, my guess would be put them in vitality. A physical bowazon needs all that dex for damage, but I'm not sure how much physical damage a cold bowa needs. And I'm guessing players 8 hits like a truck.
For armor, I'm leaning towards Treachery. Again I don't know if the ED from fort works for elemental and the extra attack speed frees up some other gear. 100% Pierce is a must for elementals so you're going to want to run Razortail rather than needing an increased attack speed Belt.
Peace is okay, because of the Valk proc. But if you run a Valk in skills you will be recasting whenever she gets proc.
As for helms, if we're wish shopping then Nightwing's Veil. I found mine in WSK running Baal runs. Otherwise, am I crazy for thinking Shako? Mf, health, mana, skills, DR. Doing some diablo/mephy runs should net you that pretty quick. The Delirium should be okay for now, but one alternative for the Delirium is the Manic Pixie Dream Girl from here
forums/manic-pixie-dreamgirl-an-alterna ... 65231.html
And lastly, end game. You say no Ice, why not. You have the Lo, and if you're hoping for a Faith then you are hoping for a Jah, which is your last piece for Ice.
This is an old guide from MrLlamaSC about the cold bowa.
https://www.icy-veins.com/d2/freezing-a ... azon-build
I am available for trading every other week, limited trading on my off week.
Thanks for understanding.
Bouncing back and forth between D2 and D4
Thanks for understanding.
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I didn’t say no Ice?
Ok I did. But I meant that I don’t have Jah or whatever hr is needed besides Lo
Ok I did. But I meant that I don’t have Jah or whatever hr is needed besides Lo
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
Hah, understood. Sorry I don't have more experience to add to this, that was all of my cents. GL
I am available for trading every other week, limited trading on my off week.
Thanks for understanding.
Bouncing back and forth between D2 and D4
Thanks for understanding.
Bouncing back and forth between D2 and D4
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I appreciate it. In any case it’s lots of experimenting. That’s part of the fun
Cheers
Cheers
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
If you are on single player, you could always hero edit in some gear to test to see what you should be aiming for. Some people call it cheating, I say D2 is enough of a grind, that if I'm going to be grinding for weeks for something I want to know I can use it.
I am available for trading every other week, limited trading on my off week.
Thanks for understanding.
Bouncing back and forth between D2 and D4
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yes, i'm aware of that. never did that. not planning to, at least yet. i can experiment when i get to that level. and restating is cheap.
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
Dude Harmony is super cheap and it’ll get you through hell - you might need to drop the players count after act 1, but it’ll do it.
Hustle in a bow is even fairly good, but really helps get that Burst of Speed needed
Stats wise I always put next to nothing into vita for a bowazon, max damage or nothing! If you can run fast and have knockback that’s all you need.
Yea fort is good, definitely wouldn’t be a waste, but chains of honour is good too, Enigma is great to reposition your merc and valk, Duress is great for the price, Treachery is fine too, Lionheart is super great for the price
Hustle in a bow is even fairly good, but really helps get that Burst of Speed needed
Stats wise I always put next to nothing into vita for a bowazon, max damage or nothing! If you can run fast and have knockback that’s all you need.
Yea fort is good, definitely wouldn’t be a waste, but chains of honour is good too, Enigma is great to reposition your merc and valk, Duress is great for the price, Treachery is fine too, Lionheart is super great for the price
I made a cold bowazon this ladder. Before Ice, I used Wizendraw with Harmony on switch. I would focus on +skills and ias on your gear, and I wouldn't make a Fortitude unless you want to switch to a full physical bowazon later.
In my final build, I liked valk wing better than nightwing's. With a 15% ias jewel in your Helm and Hustle on switch, you can hit the 7 fpa breakpoint with Ice in a mat bow.
In my final build, I liked valk wing better than nightwing's. With a 15% ias jewel in your Helm and Hustle on switch, you can hit the 7 fpa breakpoint with Ice in a mat bow.
Don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, you can make your character out with everything you could want here and see how it would stack up. No grinding required.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/
I am available for trading every other week, limited trading on my off week.
Thanks for understanding.
Bouncing back and forth between D2 and D4
Thanks for understanding.
Bouncing back and forth between D2 and D4
Frost / Physical combo for a bowazon is... surprising.
Most people either go to Elemental (then Cold + Fire) or Physical (then Strafe / Multishot + Frozen Arrow as one point wonder), because the two builds don't synergize very well : on one you want physical damage (any source like jewels), on the other elemental ones (so skills on elemental bow skills).
At some point you probably have to choose between the two, or assume you're making a non optimal hybrid.
Assuming you stay on your current path
For the cold part : I would go with full M'avina set if you can. Cheap (even if as you're self found some parts like the Diadem may take time to find) and really efficient. As stated, Ice is even better but is indeed damn expensive.
As for the Physical, the choice is really between Windforce and Faith for most people, Mist and upped Witchwild String being secondary options.
What you can try : get a full M'avina's and have a physical bow on switch. Not sure it works, but definitely something that can be tested !
Most people either go to Elemental (then Cold + Fire) or Physical (then Strafe / Multishot + Frozen Arrow as one point wonder), because the two builds don't synergize very well : on one you want physical damage (any source like jewels), on the other elemental ones (so skills on elemental bow skills).
At some point you probably have to choose between the two, or assume you're making a non optimal hybrid.
Assuming you stay on your current path
For the cold part : I would go with full M'avina set if you can. Cheap (even if as you're self found some parts like the Diadem may take time to find) and really efficient. As stated, Ice is even better but is indeed damn expensive.
As for the Physical, the choice is really between Windforce and Faith for most people, Mist and upped Witchwild String being secondary options.
What you can try : get a full M'avina's and have a physical bow on switch. Not sure it works, but definitely something that can be tested !
Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap Annihilus
OP
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/1t0106lv
pretty nice so far- almost 2k
and dps is 4k per second..
better than most of my chars
I'm only level 37 now, but when i get max cold damage, this shows nice.
although my Wizendraw is only -25% to cold or so
and also i would need the rune for the second upgrade..but i guess that's not that hard to come by
pretty nice so far- almost 2k
and dps is 4k per second..
better than most of my chars
I'm only level 37 now, but when i get max cold damage, this shows nice.
although my Wizendraw is only -25% to cold or so
and also i would need the rune for the second upgrade..but i guess that's not that hard to come by
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
OP
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
I did not, re-read my post.
I assume you have other chars collecting stuff though.
I assume you have other chars collecting stuff though.
Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap Annihilus
OP
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap Annihilus
OP
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
OP
weird, on this build- Ice VS Faith when equipping Fortitude. actually Faith wins in terms of DPS?
Ice:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/g402060x
7538 dps including Freezing Arrow
Faith:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/ns0106p3
8900 dps
Ice:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/g402060x
7538 dps including Freezing Arrow
Faith:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/ns0106p3
8900 dps
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
Are you comparing them vs a Target Dummy with 0% base cold resistance? You should see different results depending on the target you choose.
I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
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Not sure I’m using this right, but I tried normal mob and both dropped a lot- but Faith still wins. By 1k difference in DPS
goodluck, and may the RNG god be with you.
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