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So, over the last bit I ran into a couple runes, enough to make a Dragon cheat piece (
Sur
and
Lo
).

I was kinda saving the
Sur
rune to kick myself in the shins with attempting to make another Bramble. (There's just such a big swing between 25-50%) to share between a necromancer and my Druid.

I simply refuse to use Enigma, so please don't.

The negatives are a
Poison Creeper
is bugged and needs to be fixed (fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath). And obviously the 25% possible swing.

But enough about Bramble.

I'm curious if I should just craft up a Dragon chest for my enchantress bow sorceress. I figure it would
Cap
up her damage a bit. With that said, I k ow for a fact I've done this before and I have the nagging suspicion it wasn't as good as it could be for various reasons. She is currently rocking duriels shell (upped).

I don't really have a use for a
Lo
, (and I don't want to trade it off). At least not outside of this.

So, the question is. Should I just wait a few more weeks and see what happens?
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So, over the last bit I ran into a couple runes, enough to make a Dragon cheat piece (
Sur
and
Lo
).

I was kinda saving the
Sur
rune to kick myself in the shins with attempting to make another Bramble. (There's just such a big swing between 25-50%) to share between a necromancer and my Druid.

I simply refuse to use Enigma, so please don't.

The negatives are a
Poison Creeper
is bugged and needs to be fixed (fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath). And obviously the 25% possible swing.

But enough about Bramble.

I'm curious if I should just craft up a Dragon chest for my enchantress bow sorceress. I figure it would
Cap
up her damage a bit. With that said, I k ow for a fact I've done this before and I have the nagging suspicion it wasn't as good as it could be for various reasons. She is currently rocking duriels shell (upped).

I don't really have a use for a
Lo
, (and I don't want to trade it off). At least not outside of this.

So, the question is. Should I just wait a few more weeks and see what happens?
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Schnorki 3879Moderator

PC
Dragon in and by itself gives you a rather abysmal lvl 14
Holy Fire
aura.

That's 99-150 dmg added, 16-50 on tick.
(Assuming maxroll is up to date on those numbers)

Say you're still pushing a lvl 45
Fire Mastery
, give or take, despite the bow slot wasting, that adds 338%.

Even with that, you're looking at a measly 433-657 added and 70-219 on tick, give or take. So...basically nothing.
Seems hardly worth it to say the least.

Now, if you were to run full HF aura, sorc isn't even bad for that but that implies you're abusing the multi-stack and going all in on it which you can't do in your bow-sorc approach as it requires both, your shield and weapon slot to get the other aura stacks which means you'd have to give up your explody
Arrows
.

Dragon alone though...total waste of runes and you'd very like (I dare pretty much guarantee it without doing any math on that side) get far, far more out of either stacking more
Enchant
/mastery skill points and/or going multi-facet for more -res (and +dmg though -res would be the more important piece there).
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Schnorki wrote: 4 months ago
Dragon in and by itself gives you a rather abysmal lvl 14
Holy Fire
aura.

That's 99-150 dmg added, 16-50 on tick.
(Assuming maxroll is up to date on those numbers)

Say you're still pushing a lvl 45
Fire Mastery
, give or take, despite the bow slot wasting, that adds 338%.

Even with that, you're looking at a measly 433-657 added and 70-219 on tick, give or take. So...basically nothing.
Seems hardly worth it to say the least.

Now, if you were to run full HF aura, sorc isn't even bad for that but that implies you're abusing the multi-stack and going all in on it which you can't do in your bow-sorc approach as it requires both, your shield and weapon slot to get the other aura stacks which means you'd have to give up your explody
Arrows
.

Dragon alone though...total waste of runes and you'd very like (I dare pretty much guarantee it without doing any math on that side) get far, far more out of either stacking more
Enchant
/mastery skill points and/or going multi-facet for more -res (and +dmg though -res would be the more important piece there).
Aye man, normally my approach is to respect, use
Demon Limb
to save points, Dragon chest, Passion/Beast/hoj, Dream
Helm
and Dragon/Dream shield.

All on switch.

Fire Mastery
20,
Lightning Mastery
20, 0 in
Enchant
but crank up its synergies. Keep
Demon Limb
in the Cube.

But I mean, at this rate I may as well build an entirely new sorceress to take advantage of all that..

On top of all that it's only 1 piece of Dragon vs 2 and hoj. (Could build it as well, I've got the
Cham
runes just kicking g around acting as inventory decorators for the moment.)

Truly is a shame. I guess I'll just wait it out for now. The runes are bound to drop by new years. (Another
Lo
and
Sur
).

(The
Crossbow
ends up being a back up weapon with this setup)
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Different approach:

I'm using a Dream helmet on my Bow-Enchantress. This
Helm
alone adds 1-16k lightning damage to my attacks, that's pretty good for doing CS (Balrogs and other fire immunes are hard to fight with fire alone, even with -resist, Dream+Infinity does the trick!).

Skills: 20
Fire Mastery
, 20
Enchant
, 20
Warmth
, 20
Lightning Mastery
, 20
Telekinesis
, 1 into
Teleport
, 1 static, 1
Frozen Armor
.

I get my ES from a Memory Staff, this saves me many points, so I can max both masteries. You need to be level 93 to be maxed.

Gear: Enigma (yes, you read right),
Magefist
, Mara, SoJ, Ravenfrost, Razor,
Sandstorm Trek
,
Shael
'ed
Demon Machine
, 7 fire skillers,
Flame Rift
.

Act 2
Prayer
Merc with Cure, Forty, Infinity. No need for a CTA.

Result: 10-30k damage without precast gear. Can play p8 CS with this build. With precast gear I hit level 46
Enchant
and get 35k+ max damage, but most of the time, I just use the gear I'm wearing.

Most fun Enchantress build I played so far!

ElSolDolLol

For low items I also accept: Perfect Amys,
Ral
,
Hel
, Tokens, Keys. Please don't offer runes lower than
Pul
(with the named exceptions).

NO PM OFFERS PLEASE! BE FAIR AND WRITE INTO THE THREAD :)
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DasNarf wrote: 4 months ago
Different approach:

I'm using a Dream helmet on my Bow-Enchantress. This
Helm
alone adds 1-16k lightning damage to my attacks, that's pretty good for doing CS (Balrogs and other fire immunes are hard to fight with fire alone, even with -resist, Dream+Infinity does the trick!).

Skills: 20
Fire Mastery
, 20
Enchant
, 20
Warmth
, 20
Lightning Mastery
, 20
Telekinesis
, 1 into
Teleport
, 1 static, 1
Frozen Armor
.

I get my ES from a Memory Staff, this saves me many points, so I can max both masteries. You need to be level 93 to be maxed.

Gear: Enigma (yes, you read right),
Magefist
, Mara, SoJ, Ravenfrost, Razor,
Sandstorm Trek
,
Shael
'ed
Demon Machine
, 7 fire skillers,
Flame Rift
.

Act 2
Prayer
Merc with Cure, Forty, Infinity. No need for a CTA.

Result: 10-30k damage without precast gear. Can play p8 CS with this build. With precast gear I hit level 46
Enchant
and get 35k+ max damage, but most of the time, I just use the gear I'm wearing.

Most fun Enchantress build I played so far!
Put any thought into
Demon Limb
? It can net you another 20pts to spend as you see fit. Though your damage will obviously go down. All depends on your specific needs.
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ShadowHeart 2675Moderator

Europe PC
BoringTitle wrote: 4 months ago
Put any thought into
Demon Limb
? It can net you another 20pts to spend as you see fit. Though your damage will obviously go down. All depends on your specific needs.
You can easily achieve level 40+
Enchant
by inevsting 20 hard points and depending on your equipment. That will nearly triple your damage vs the
Enchant
cast by
Demon Limb
(or more than triple, if you have level 45+
Enchant
).

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
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ShadowHeart wrote: 4 months ago
BoringTitle wrote: 4 months ago
Put any thought into
Demon Limb
? It can net you another 20pts to spend as you see fit. Though your damage will obviously go down. All depends on your specific needs.
You can easily achieve level 40+
Enchant
by inevsting 20 hard points and depending on your equipment. That will nearly triple your damage vs the
Enchant
cast by
Demon Limb
(or more than triple, if you have level 45+
Enchant
).
Lol, sure. Honestly though as I'm on p1-p3 99% of the time. It ends up not mattering all that much as far as damage is concerned.

I've currently invested 20 in
Enchant
on my current character myself, though ive done both ways over the years.

I don't actually have a strong preference either way myself. For me both have advantages.

I don't remember skimping points on
Energy Shield
using +9 off of Memory, though I might have. Ita been a while.
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DasNarf wrote: 4 months ago
Gear: Enigma (yes, you read right),
I'm curious, why Enigma for bow enchantress instead of something like Chains of Honor or even
Skin of the Vipermagi
?

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2 skill + mf + str (which enable to spend more skill points in vitality)
frw (if you don't "tele walk" time)

And if you use
Energy Shield
, you don't need to max resistances (maybe just poison)
Winterkill wrote: 4 months ago
DasNarf wrote: 4 months ago
Gear: Enigma (yes, you read right),
I'm curious, why Enigma for bow enchantress instead of something like Chains of Honor or even
Skin of the Vipermagi
?

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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Winterkill wrote: 4 months ago
DasNarf wrote: 4 months ago
Gear: Enigma (yes, you read right),
I'm curious, why Enigma for bow enchantress instead of something like Chains of Honor or even
Skin of the Vipermagi
?
Also the whole low requirements and smok'em if you got'em mentality to boot.

(I personally avoid that runeword like the Plague due to its ubiquity)
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OP
Well, decision made. Crafted Fortitude for my wife's merc. '
Lo
' and behold, problem solved.
7
OP
I kinda find it funny how 'valuable' a rune is until you've made all the things you need out of them. And then they just take up room.
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Winterkill wrote: 4 months ago
I'm curious, why Enigma for bow enchantress instead of something like Chains of Honor or even
Skin of the Vipermagi
?
The main reason was the 45% FRW, since
Sandstorm Trek
only delivers 20%. This makes a huge impact on killspeed and item grabbing. +2 Skills, MF, Laek, STR are also strong points. As
Energy Shield
sorc I need every attribute point I can get due to not using CTA.

I use
Teleport
to place my merc, and then I run to the optimal spot to shoot into the (lined-up) crowd.

Diablo 2 is a fast paced game, and having high run speed is one of the most important stats for me.

ElSolDolLol

For low items I also accept: Perfect Amys,
Ral
,
Hel
, Tokens, Keys. Please don't offer runes lower than
Pul
(with the named exceptions).

NO PM OFFERS PLEASE! BE FAIR AND WRITE INTO THE THREAD :)
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