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I'll try Fanaticism with Exile, Metalgrid and Grief later on. would need 15 stash slots in res all charms, think I have them, and the annoying Fade prebuffing

with Kira's Guardian and Last Wish 9 charms slots and the prebuffing would be needed.. unless you keep Metalgrid and replace Dracul's Grasp and Goblin Toe with something more useful. not willing to invest into Last Wish atm :)
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Sounds good. An no need to worry about Merc, so no annoying prebuff for him 😜
Goblin Toe absolutely required, besides Guillaume only source for CB.
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RotW Assassin Europe PC
I think Schinzilord's build with CoH and Metalgrid doesnt need prebuffing for max resistances. My build doesnt need prebuffing too, but I am using Kira + LW. With Guardian Angel, Guillaume and Grief, you will need prebuff.

Just a quick comparison between our builds:
My build has 95 cold, fire, light and 90 poison, vs Schinz's 80 fire and cold, 85 light and 75 poison. I got 30% ctc Life Tap, vs 15%. I got 80% chance for CB, vs 50%. His build gives more non CB damage though. So probably his build has slower starts because of lower chance for CB but better end for higher non-cb dmg. Maybe also my higher ctc for Life Tap and more resistances are unnecessary because summit guys are not that dangerous in the end and you can fight ubers one by one. CoH is also much cheaper than Last Wish.
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And again, no, unfortunately. Survivavbility and damage are there, but just not enough. They keep moving and healing, and eventually cta wears off, and they get me.
I just cut the losses and give up on pally, the zon has to do the heavy lifting again

If some pally, ideally with Exile and Salvation, wants to team up, hit me up, we can do a rotation. I just need some tanking to reduce potion consumption and adrenaline, high voltage dmg output guaranteed. I can lease an Exile for the rotations, and upon 10th successful run, you can keep it :D
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ganseng wrote: 14 hours ago
And again, no, unfortunately. Survivavbility and damage are there, but just not enough. They keep moving and healing, and eventually cta wears off, and they get me.
Record and upload gameplay footage and show everything, we can't diagnose what you're doing wrong otherwise.
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Hi Gangseng, I am happy to join your game and let‘s try it out together. Of course just out of curiosity. Ping me in Bnet.
I guess you have a damage problem. Fanaticism and Grief and 60% CB should do the job easily, this is a matter of 20-30 seconds per ancient
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@Schinzilord
thx again for the runs, that was much more fun!
@D2Veteran
let's just say zons work better for me than a pally...
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mikelessar wrote: 1 day ago
String of Ears is bad for fighting the Uber Ancients. Life leech does not work with Smite and the Uber Ancients do predominantly elemental damage, so the physical damage reduction is also lost.

Use Tgods. Use Exile. Only use Fanaticism if you can keep up 295 res without Salvation. Otherwise: Salvation.

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For the fastest attack speed breakpoint for Smite use a PB Grief with 35+ ias, a 15 ias jewel and a 20 ias amulet (Highlord's is ok but deadly strike is not working. I prefer The Cat's Eye).
Speaking for myself on offline SP without the ability to trade - I think I'd rather just use Fanaticism because the extra attack speed required to make up for Fanaticism is way harder to come by than the extra resists.

65 IAS required to hit the 6FPA Smite breakpoint without Fanaticism vs only 8-10 (IIRC) IAS required with if using any PB base weapon - that's alot of IAS to make up for if you ask me and it seems like way more of a hassle trying to come up that extra IAS than it would to come up with extra res.

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and from previous experience, Lightning Strike zon gets following results:
30% she gets Madawc when i want Madawc
30% she gets Madawc when i want Talic or Korlic
30% she gets Talic or Korlic when i want Talic or Korlic
10% she dies

and since I'm really wanting a 10/10 cold Stone and leveling her to 97 now, i'd rather keep doing it with a smiter companion, at least till she gets to 97 :)
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My most reliable uber ancient killer is my Strafe zon (it's my favorite build and I wanted to figure how to clear everything in game). I run CoH, Verdungo's, and prebuff Fade to live and the rest is offense. I hold down Strafe and lifesteal to live. It doesn't need pots and has just enough life to not get one shot, but Korlic always dies first, which is annoying for a physical build.

I then gave my Tesladin Exile and tried a non respec Smite build. It worked fine on the first attempt easily killing everything. After that, I would sometimes have a hard time. It really seemed to boil down to killing Talic before he started moving too much. Once he did ww, there were too many adds to reliably click on him and kill him before he healed. I eventually learned to just reset and try again. With Life Tap on Exile living wasn't an issue. I think it just boiled down to if CB proced enough early to get him low. I prebuffed Fade and geared him to live with as much CB as I could muster. With some tinkering it mostly works, but is not very exciting.
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BigD wrote: 12 hours ago
mikelessar wrote: 1 day ago
String of Ears is bad for fighting the Uber Ancients. Life leech does not work with Smite and the Uber Ancients do predominantly elemental damage, so the physical damage reduction is also lost.

Use Tgods. Use Exile. Only use Fanaticism if you can keep up 295 res without Salvation. Otherwise: Salvation.

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For the fastest attack speed breakpoint for Smite use a PB Grief with 35+ ias, a 15 ias jewel and a 20 ias amulet (Highlord's is ok but deadly strike is not working. I prefer The Cat's Eye).
Speaking for myself on offline SP without the ability to trade - I think I'd rather just use Fanaticism because the extra attack speed required to make up for Fanaticism is way harder to come by than the extra resists.
True. But the best attack speed breakpoint just makes the fight a few seconds faster. The all res are needed to win the fight at all. And getting 295 all res without Salvation is not easy, even for a Paladin with Fade. That's why the all res have priority if you can't get both.
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Would it be better to use Treachery to proc Fade, or Last Wish and basically keep it proccing? Because I have both and, to be completely honest, I hate switching out gear unless I absolutely have to.

"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
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Dnasty225 wrote: 1 hour ago
Would it be better to use Treachery to proc Fade, or Last Wish and basically keep it proccing? Because I have both and, to be completely honest, I hate switching out gear unless I absolutely have to.
you have to prebuff before you enter, or you might not survive until first Last Wish proc
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ganseng wrote: 32 minutes ago
Dnasty225 wrote: 1 hour ago
Would it be better to use Treachery to proc Fade, or Last Wish and basically keep it proccing? Because I have both and, to be completely honest, I hate switching out gear unless I absolutely have to.
you have to prebuff before you enter, or you might not survive until first Last Wish proc
Should I just pre buff with Last Wish even though it is a lower level Fade than Treachery or do I need that extra levels from Treachery

"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
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Dnasty225 wrote: 28 minutes ago
ganseng wrote: 32 minutes ago
Dnasty225 wrote: 1 hour ago
Would it be better to use Treachery to proc Fade, or Last Wish and basically keep it proccing? Because I have both and, to be completely honest, I hate switching out gear unless I absolutely have to.
you have to prebuff before you enter, or you might not survive until first Last Wish proc
Should I just pre buff with Last Wish even though it is a lower level Fade than Treachery or do I need that extra levels from Treachery
you should reach 295 all res to offset the hell and the ancients' penalties (100+100). If Last Wish is enough, no need for Treachery. you can check your total res on the character screen.
assuming you wear Guardian Angel and have additional +5 points either through Holy Fire or through Exile
you can try with 290 or even less, but every percentage point makes a huge difference
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