Favorite zon builds

ganseng wrote: 1 month ago

almost looks like Poison Javelin would one shot the uber ancients.. just need to wait 2 mins

Yup

https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... velin_and/

that Diadem...

Queegon wrote: 1 month ago

ganseng wrote: 1 month ago

almost looks like Poison Javelin would one shot the uber ancients.. just need to wait 2 mins

Yup

https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... velin_and/

did some testing of Plague Javelin on tz 92 Baal with and without lvl 3 Venom from arachnid's

results are inconclusive to random

without Venom
1st run 45s
2nd 53s
3rd 24s
average 40.7s

with Venom
1st 33s
2nd 61s
3rd 27s
average 40.3s

i guess i will switch on Venom from arachnid's when fighting tougher targets but don't see the point in investing into another shield, considering this builds is already overburdened with charms

so, made me a simple Spirit with 4x5/5 facets..

dmg with Enigma 98.5k->106k over 12.8->12.4s
dmg with Bramble (43%) 125.3k->128k over 12.4->12s

Bramble barely feels worth it.. maybe will change with a +6 Javelin and a perfect roll

kill speed on tougher heralds seems to have improved except for poison immunes.. embalmed in tombs in particular are slow to a point that i doubt -res works properly??

and it feels like dmg can be much higher if applied through direct hit rather than the poison cloud.. regardless whether Venom is active or not. not sure if it's a bug, intended, or my perception

did one Baal run so far, 30s without Venom. will do some more testing later

p.s. got such a beautiful red valk, lvl 52, immune to all elemental dmg.. only gorebellies manage to scratch her with crushing blow. why can't we keep the valk??

after eight more excruciatingly boring Baal tests (tz 93, 128k dmg over 12s, -40 poison res, tz either extra strong or fire ench or exra fast or cursed)

without lvl 3 Venom 30s / 20s / 29s / 24s mean 25.8s
with lvl 3 Venom 14s / 26s / 25s / 33s mean 24.5s

Conclusion: Venom has very small positive effect
Clueless why kill time varies so greatly..

of course, a few days after sticking 4 5/5 facets into a normal Monarch this drops..

okay, let's talk about Lightning Fury, the #1 zon in this poll, despite the bowazon's legacy fan base

i only got to test its full power after rotw, as i hadn't had griffon before. it's impressive indeed to clear entire screens with 1-2 Bolts..

but, with introduction of heralds and uber ancients, i feel Lightning Fury loses to other builds due to the lack of Valkyrie and the need to engage at melee range (never a good idea vs a Herald..)

throwing Bolts from distance also isn't a good option since nothing tanks, and single target dps is mediocre

further more, to fight tougher enemies, you might want to switch to Thunderstroke, which is cumbersome. and you need to carry Thunderstroke AND Spirit, without Enigma, if you want yo do ubers, meaning less points to vitality

and you are mana starved, meaning Insight and not Infinity on merc

although some people say they prefer her to self wield Infinity vs ubers, for me it's difficult to believe because of Infinity's -res, and the fact emilio would be puffed away if you brought him with Infinity. only advantage us higher attack speed and some extra res vs lightning (cold not a problem and poison irrelevant). i would certainly bet on the self wielding Infinity vs ubers

and finally, Lightning Fury is so skill point hungry, it's an issue to even divert 2 points to Slow Missiles..

what are your thoughts?