Warlock

what are some good builds and what is he good for? eg. mfing

Warlock has a lot of nice builds. Chaos-Fire,

Abyss/miasma chains, eldrich tree (I know little about), fire-demon focusing on

Tainted,

Bind Demon focus using defilers,

Blood Boil build. Lots of options. Check out Maxroll builds to get some ideas.

hc or sc?

I've never played HC, but if I did, I would go Demon tree. Max

Bind Demon + max

Demonic Mastery + max

Blood Oath gives you a very tanky demon. My dark lancer, perhaps the "squishiest" of the preferred demons, just face tanked

Diablo Clone without losing a sliver of health. I just

Death Mark 'd her to the other side of DC so he was facing away from me and never grabbed any attention whatsoever.

If you want supreme survivalbility, I would bind a unque pack leader Urdar from

River of Flame, preferably with Stone Skin, Cursed and Lighning enchanted affixed (but really, any Cursed one works). They have a large hit box and get "

Teleport trapped" when you

Teleport and can't move till you do or you

Death Mark them--this can be annoying but also taken advantage of in HC b/c missiles hit him instead of you, except piercing, I think. So, for example, when I hit a Cursed Urn that might turn into a pack of archers that kill me, I hit it and immediately

Teleport, leaving the Urdar taking all the hits.

Re: other stats, you can pick what you like, whether that is maxing

Blood Boil, maxing

Tainted, maxing Goats/

Death Mark, or just using defilers and delving a bit into one of the other trees.

I play fire warlock because the gearing is simple and I get to have max resists and 4k+ hp

only "expensive" item might be a diabolos book and

Zod for Obsession (as well as Enigma of course)

rest are not super rare or expensive.

Flickering Flame / 2X Sojs / Arachnid /

Magefist / War Travs / Mara

+u get to use a

Bone Visage which just looks badass imo

kopiman wrote: 16 hours ago

only "expensive" item might be a diabolos book and

Zod for Obsession (as well as Enigma of course)

Why no

Mang Song's Lesson ?

Tornado_OLO wrote: 11 hours ago

Why no

Mang Song's Lesson ?

Because I like having max resists and easy 125 FCR without having to spend more on a +2 / 20 fcr necklace which costs more and drops resists even further.

Obsession with its 65 FCR and 60-70 all res makes gearing the other slots much cheaper.

Also you are already sitting at around -55-75 fire resistance without mang song from skill (-40), Flickering Flame (-10-15) and Renewed sunder (-5-10) and an uber jewel (-5-10) and 1 shotting everything in p8 already anyway

The extra -10 to 15 from mang song in exchange for not having 125fcr or not having capped resist is not worth it to me.

For people that just like seeing bigger numbers on character sheet but less qol mang songs is their choice

kopiman wrote: 11 hours ago

For people that just like seeing bigger numbers on character sheet but less qol mang songs is their choice

Makes sense and even more for HC.

Use 3

Tainted summons, it's cheap and strong.

kopiman wrote: 11 hours ago

Tornado_OLO wrote: 11 hours ago

Why no

Mang Song's Lesson ?

Because I like having max resists and easy 125 FCR without having to spend more on a +2 / 20 fcr necklace which costs more and drops resists even further.

Obsession with its 65 FCR and 60-70 all res makes gearing the other slots much cheaper.

Also you are already sitting at around -55-75 fire resistance without mang song from skill (-40), Flickering Flame (-10-15) and Renewed sunder (-5-10) and an uber jewel (-5-10) and 1 shotting everything in p8 already anyway

The extra -10 to 15 from mang song in exchange for not having 125fcr or not having capped resist is not worth it to me.

For people that just like seeing bigger numbers on character sheet but less qol mang songs is their choice

I run 125 FCR with maxed resistances with Mang Song. But it is tough and expensive to hit the FCR and Res, you have to maximize every slot and small charm. I normally play on P1, so I prefer RoF for most situations to apocolpyse or flame wall, which have a delay, and the extra fire res is nice there. RoF will not 1 shot enemies on P8, and even on P1 I'd say it only 1 shots about 30% of enemies. I normally just pound it 2-3 times and collect the

Gold/loot that I am right in the center of. Knocks back most enemies so they can't attack you too.

With RoF you can have 10+10+15+15 = -50 res from gear and skills (FF,jewel,sunder,

Consume), so the additional -20 on Mang's is nice versus fire immunes, boosts RoF kill speed by 40%. You can also get -17 from

Conviction, but it takes 0-2 seconds for the aura to pulse and I find the mana problems annoying without Insight, so I have been running without Infinity.

However, I agree - the easy 95% way to get there that makes the other slots super easy is to just run Obsession, it is incredible. Solves resist and FCR problems, the main two "problems" every build has to solve, and gives +4 skills along with it, not to mention max mana and max life. And the build is still incredible.

On P8, I suspect I might run as you do. Apoc probably wins over RoF on P8, so the -20 doesn't help as much, plus may want to run

Conviction on P8 and rely on the dual soj and

Hex Siphon to deal with the mana.

Spamming RoF with a Mang setup gives you about 60-70% of the effective damage of Apocolypse (depending on enemy fire res) over the ~2 sec it takes for Apoc to proc, but on P1 you only need 1-3 casts to kill most everything, so it ends up being faster than waiting for Apoc. Also, because it knocks enemies back, you can safely position yourself in the center of the crowd you are killing, which then makes loot pickup faster. On P8, you need presumably need 4 - 12 casts (taking 1.3 - 4 seconds), and so Apoc is better.

Im running

Abyss with

Sigil Death in full Naj's Ancient Vestige with round about 350mf and 450gf. There was no TZ /

Herald i couldnt finish, because MAGIC. Love it. With

Consume and a merc with Harmony i am also very fast 100%fr+. Its super budget and fcr is not needed.