Getting back in to D2 after a long time. If someone puts a regular Archon Staff for the quest adding sockets, will it give them max 6 sockets? I forget how that worked...Blubbalutsch wrote: 1 day ago
Artificially blown up prices at traderie.. Sorry to speak bold, but imo whoever pays this price has no idea about this game. Only chance to have War Staff and Rune Staff with 5 OS is when they drop from monsters lower than lvl 25, which excludes Rune Staff drops. Other option is that they got rerolled with Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type, but then, Archon Staff may also get 5OS. So in the end, you can't be sure what they roll if purchased from unreliable sources that traders are.
Just do some Cows in Hell and wait for any of the three dropping, then Larzuk. Did the same with eth WS, cause it looks cool. I just threw away a plain Archon Staff while pondering about trying to give it 6os with Recipe: Add Sockets to Normal Weapon, but ended up deeming it not worthy wasting Perfect Amethyst and Ral
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Yes, indeed.Mattelot wrote: 1 day agoGetting back in to D2 after a long time. If someone puts a regular Archon Staff for the quest adding sockets, will it give them max 6 sockets? I forget how that worked...Blubbalutsch wrote: 1 day ago
Artificially blown up prices at traderie.. Sorry to speak bold, but imo whoever pays this price has no idea about this game. Only chance to have War Staff and Rune Staff with 5 OS is when they drop from monsters lower than lvl 25, which excludes Rune Staff drops. Other option is that they got rerolled with Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type, but then, Archon Staff may also get 5OS. So in the end, you can't be sure what they roll if purchased from unreliable sources that traders are.
Just do some Cows in Hell and wait for any of the three dropping, then Larzuk. Did the same with eth WS, cause it looks cool. I just threw away a plain Archon Staff while pondering about trying to give it 6os with Recipe: Add Sockets to Normal Weapon, but ended up deeming it not worthy wasting Perfect Amethyst and Ral
If it is a looted regular or superior Archon Staff - yes. If it is a staff that was rerolled with a Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type - no, 5Mattelot wrote: 1 day agoGetting back in to D2 after a long time. If someone puts a regular Archon Staff for the quest adding sockets, will it give them max 6 sockets? I forget how that worked...
Just saw that recipe today. Me trying to figure this out in my head... I imagine using that recipe would be if you were aiming for some runeword that uses 5 runes instead of 6. Like if I had some weapon that I wanted Grief, etc?Coolgroove wrote: 23 hours ago
If it is a looted regular or superior Archon Staff - yes. If it is a staff that was rerolled with a Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type - no, 5
I got a Archon staf with 6 sockets laying around if you are interrested.
Holy Grail: holygrailtracker.php?user_id=114718
I'll take one with 6 sockets if the price is reasonable. trade/archon-staff-t1675364.html
Sometime items can be of low quality (damaged, cracked ...). With that recipe you can up them to normal quality. As I understand - it makes archon quality level as the lowest for normal quality (of that item group, not the regular Archon level), and that allows for 5 max.
Yes, but first check here how many sockets the weapon gets with ilvl 1. Then you can Larzuk for the guaranteed maximum sockets for ilvl 1 or you add sockets with the cube with a relatively good chance of getting max sockets.Mattelot wrote: 23 hours agoJust saw that recipe today. Me trying to figure this out in my head... I imagine using that recipe would be if you were aiming for some runeword that uses 5 runes instead of 6. Like if I had some weapon that I wanted Grief, etc?Coolgroove wrote: 23 hours ago
If it is a looted regular or superior Archon Staff - yes. If it is a staff that was rerolled with a Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type - no, 5
For example, if you find a cracked Flail and you want to make Heart of the Oak in (4 sockets). You use the Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type and you get an ilvl 1 Flail. But this can only get 3 sockets max. So, no HotO with this base.
Bear with me, trying to understand. When I hover over the Flail, it shows max sockets 5. Why would that only yield a max of 3? I thought someone said if you make something normal quality, it's like max -1.mikelessar wrote: 11 hours agoYes, but first check here how many sockets the weapon gets with ilvl 1. Then you can Larzuk for the guaranteed maximum sockets for ilvl 1 or you add sockets with the cube with a relatively good chance of getting max sockets.Mattelot wrote: 23 hours agoJust saw that recipe today. Me trying to figure this out in my head... I imagine using that recipe would be if you were aiming for some runeword that uses 5 runes instead of 6. Like if I had some weapon that I wanted Grief, etc?Coolgroove wrote: 23 hours ago
If it is a looted regular or superior Archon Staff - yes. If it is a staff that was rerolled with a Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type - no, 5
For example, if you find a cracked Flail and you want to make Heart of the Oak in (4 sockets). You use the Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type and you get an ilvl 1 Flail. But this can only get 3 sockets max. So, no HotO with this base.
That's not how it works.
Every socketable item in the game has a fixed max number of sockets based on the ilvl. There are 3 ilvl ranges for max socket determination:
1-25
26-40
41+
(the ilvl ranges are the same for all items, just the max socket number is different for different items per ilvl range)
The ilvl is determined at drop (which monster and/or area it dropped from/in). Fixing a low quality item to a normal quality sets ilvl to 1 regardless of what it was before.
If you look more closely at the Flail page you can see a section detailing the max sockets per ilvl range:
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My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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So that being said, is there a way for someone on Switch to see what the ilvl is before I try to put sockets in and screw it up?
No, there's no way on Switch, and not on PC either for that matter.Mattelot wrote: 8 hours agoSo that being said, is there a way for someone on Switch to see what the ilvl is before I try to put sockets in and screw it up?
Before RotW, the servers did send the ilvl to the game client in the background. It was never visible in game, but there were 3rd party mods that were able to find the ilvl:s and display it on item tooltips in-game. But apparently, in RotW they patched it so ilvl is never actually sent from server to client, so the game client has no way of knowing or detecting the ilvl. When socketing an item (or doing any action really), there's always a "handshake" with the server, and the server knows the ilvl.
You need to pay attention & remember where an item dropped. On normal it's not just which area but also exactly which mob type (it's important). On nightmare & hell it's only important to remember which area, but you do need to pay attention to if it was a champion, unique, or a minion, since these have a level bonus compared to normal trash mobs. It's mostly important when area levels are right around the boundaries between socket ilvl ranges, cause a minion level bonus can push the level into the next ilvl range. Etc.
If you traded for an item it's impossible to know what ilvl it was, you'll have to trust the seller.
I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
I really appreciate the information, this is very helpful.
Dumb question, is there any kind of chart... thing that says "If it drops here, no this, it's this ilvl range"? So if I was wanting to farm for a (example) War Pike that I could get 6 sockets on, this is the most likely place?
Dumb question, is there any kind of chart... thing that says "If it drops here, no this, it's this ilvl range"? So if I was wanting to farm for a (example) War Pike that I could get 6 sockets on, this is the most likely place?
First off; there's a socket calculator right here at diablo2.io: Tools > Larzuk Sockets
To use it you need to enter the area name and the mob type (name plus whether it's a normal mob, minion, unique or champion).
All areas & levels can also be found here at diablo2.io: areas
Here's another resouce as well:
https://diablodex.com/Guides/Areas
Please note:
- The ilvl is the always the level of the monster that dropped it (if it's a chest or other "poppable" it's based on the area level).
- On Normal difficulty, monster levels are not directly tied to area levels. Each monster type has a predetermined level regardless of which area it spawns in (some monsters may appear in multiple different areas with different area levels but they'll have the same level regardless). This is only for Normal difficulty. Yes, it's complicated, that's why the socket calculator helps in particular for Normal difficulty. Exception: if it's terrorized then monster levels adjust according to the Terror zone level.
- On Nightmare and Hell, the levels of normal monsters are the same as the area level.
- Unique monsters and their minions have a +3 level bonus.
- Champions have a +2 level bonus, except for Berserkers who have +3.
- When an area is terrorized ( Terror Zone), the area level and monster levels are directly based on your level (unless your level is lower than the area's usual level).
- Anything that drops on Nightmare starting with Jail Level 1 and on is always in the highest ilvl range (41+).
- I.e., it's only on Normal difficulty and the early parts of Nightmare where you need to really pay attention.
- There's a socket calculator, did I mention that?
I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
Nope. One big reason why we have diablo2.ioMattelot wrote: 8 hours agoSo that being said, is there a way for someone on Switch to see what the ilvl is before I try to put sockets in and screw it up?
You're pretty helpful, you should be a moder... nvm
I guess I probably should have browsed the site more. I found it when I googled for something and it just took me to the forums.
I don't know this well...but why doesn't people use 6 socket Phase Blade with 6 5x5 fire facet?
it will be -30 res +30 fskill, together with flicker flame...
it will be -30 res +30 fskill, together with flicker flame...
Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
First of all 6x 5-5 facets are also quite expensive. Apart from that it would not be stronger than Obsession. Getting lots of minus enemy fire res is very easy with the Warlock. He consumes a Tainted: -20%. Apocalypse also has a lot. The +4 from Obsession should be almost equal in damage. But the best reason to go Obsession are the 65 FCR! And lots of FHR, life, mana and res.leox wrote: 1 hour agoI don't know this well...but why doesn't people use 6 socket Phase Blade with 6 5x5 fire facet?
it will be -30 res +30 fskill, together with flicker flame...
how do you think of that Ondal's Wisdom staff, it should be good too?mikelessar wrote: 1 hour agoFirst of all 6x 5-5 facets are also quite expensive. Apart from that it would not be stronger than Obsession. Getting lots of minus enemy fire res is very easy with the Warlock. He consumes a Tainted: -20%. Apocalypse also has a lot. The +4 from Obsession should be almost equal in damage. But the best reason to go Obsession are the 65 FCR! And lots of FHR, life, mana and res.leox wrote: 1 hour agoI don't know this well...but why doesn't people use 6 socket Phase Blade with 6 5x5 fire facet?
it will be -30 res +30 fskill, together with flicker flame...
Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
Ondal's Wisdom is a good budget choice if it rolls with +4 skills. It also has 45 FCR, some mana, some extra exp.leox wrote: 1 hour agohow do you think of that Wisdom staff, it should be good too?mikelessar wrote: 1 hour agoFirst of all 6x 5-5 facets are also quite expensive. Apart from that it would not be stronger than Obsession. Getting lots of minus enemy fire res is very easy with the Warlock. He consumes a Tainted: -20%. Apocalypse also has a lot. The +4 from Obsession should be almost equal in damage. But the best reason to go Obsession are the 65 FCR! And lots of FHR, life, mana and res.leox wrote: 1 hour agoI don't know this well...but why doesn't people use 6 socket Phase Blade with 6 5x5 fire facet?
it will be -30 res +30 fskill, together with flicker flame...
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