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I've been running various zones to farm
Archon Staff
on a character with almost zero MF and it doesn't drop at all. More than a 100 runs of Hell cows, Pits,
Ancient Tunnels
,
River of Flame
,
Chaos Sanctuary
,
Abaddon
,
Pit of Acheron
,
Drifter Cavern
,
Icy Cellar
, many terrorized zones... nothing, not even one drop of any kind.

I need a normal or superior base, no sockets, don't care about skills on it, as I plan to use one
Larzuk
quest to max socket it. But it seems it is more rare than most uniques for me, or am I just that unlucky?
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I've been running various zones to farm
Archon Staff
on a character with almost zero MF and it doesn't drop at all. More than a 100 runs of Hell cows, Pits,
Ancient Tunnels
,
River of Flame
,
Chaos Sanctuary
,
Abaddon
,
Pit of Acheron
,
Drifter Cavern
,
Icy Cellar
, many terrorized zones... nothing, not even one drop of any kind.

I need a normal or superior base, no sockets, don't care about skills on it, as I plan to use one
Larzuk
quest to max socket it. But it seems it is more rare than most uniques for me, or am I just that unlucky?
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ShadowHeart 5597Moderator

Paladin Europe PC Playstation
It's rare, but it's not THAT rare. It's just RNG, as always.

I played a couple of hours of TZ yesterday and I found several Archon Staffs, 2-3 at least (didn't count). As the dumbass I am, I ditched them all cause I didn't stop to consider the possibilities with Obsession & Warlock. Ah well. I'll try to remember to keep them from now on. But I'm sure they'll stop dropping now that I'll be paying more attention 😜😂

I'm in CET (Central European Time)
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
My profile says Softcore, but I play both Softcore and Hardcore.
My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
Holy Grail Death Count: 1
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A plain
Archon Staff
is about a
Jah
on Traderie right now.

Plan A for many Warlock players seems to be to buy a
Mang Song's Lesson
to go down the fire route.

Plan B is making an Obsession for all (?) other Warlock builds.
Archon Staff
and
Rune Staff
are the ideal choices. (
War Staff
might only get 5 sockets if it drops very early.)
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drop rates from nishicode.com/

HC RotW
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OP
tadkarcz wrote: 7 hours ago
Like all other Treasure Class 87 items, an
Archon Staff
can be quite elusive...

Whenever you see a
Thunder Maul
,
Mythical Sword
,
Legendary Mallet
,
Hydra Bow
,
Caduceus
,
Giant Thresher
, etc etc -- remember: it could have been an
Archon Staff
! 😁
Funny enough, from that list, in that time I was farming for
Archon Staff
, I got at least two
Mythical Sword
and plenty of
Hydra Bow
/
Giant Thresher
with a few
Legendary Mallet
. I even got the all the runes for Obsession I was missing and planning to trade for. But not even one
Archon Staff
of any kind. Yeah, it could have been, hahaha
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OP
krathkor wrote: 7 hours ago
drop rates from nishicode.com/
...
Thank you! I didn't know that this calculator exists. Quite useful.
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User avatar

Schnorki 4214Moderator

RotW PC
Rare in general, yes.
Rare compared to other specific elite bases, not particularly.

But as we all know, the one you're currently looking for is always the rarest. :P

mikelessar wrote: 7 hours ago
A plain
Archon Staff
is about a
Jah
on Traderie right now.

Plan A for many Warlock players seems to be to buy a
Mang Song's Lesson
to go down the fire route.

Plan B is making an Obsession for all (?) other Warlock builds.
Archon Staff
and
Rune Staff
are the ideal choices. (
War Staff
might only get 5 sockets if it drops very early.)
Not quite. For most other builds, Obsession still isn't the top choice. Or even close. There are like 1 or 2 where it might be (close at least) but I have yet to see anyone run those.

Even Mang Song's died down though as hardly anyone runs fire it seems.
And those few that do just keep sabotaging
Baal
runs by spamming that stupid aoe knockback the entire time...ugh...

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Schnorki wrote: 6 hours ago
Rare in general, yes.
Rare compared to other specific elite bases, not particularly.

But as we all know, the one you're currently looking for is always the rarest. :P

mikelessar wrote: 7 hours ago
A plain
Archon Staff
is about a
Jah
on Traderie right now.

Plan A for many Warlock players seems to be to buy a
Mang Song's Lesson
to go down the fire route.

Plan B is making an Obsession for all (?) other Warlock builds.
Archon Staff
and
Rune Staff
are the ideal choices. (
War Staff
might only get 5 sockets if it drops very early.)
Not quite. For most other builds, Obsession still isn't the top choice. Or even close. There are like 1 or 2 where it might be (close at least) but I have yet to see anyone run those.

Even Mang Song's died down though as hardly anyone runs fire it seems.
And those few that do just keep sabotaging
Baal
runs by spamming that stupid aoe knockback the entire time...ugh...
Ok, I see. Let's hope that the Mangs builds really die. Then the big Mangs flippers will have lost their bet and will remain on their piles of Mangs that they bought for Ists in the first hours and then offered them for 5-20 Jahs
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User avatar

M1ck 566

Europe PC
mikelessar wrote: 5 hours ago
Schnorki wrote: 6 hours ago
Rare in general, yes.
Rare compared to other specific elite bases, not particularly.

But as we all know, the one you're currently looking for is always the rarest. :P

mikelessar wrote: 7 hours ago
A plain
Archon Staff
is about a
Jah
on Traderie right now.

Plan A for many Warlock players seems to be to buy a
Mang Song's Lesson
to go down the fire route.

Plan B is making an Obsession for all (?) other Warlock builds.
Archon Staff
and
Rune Staff
are the ideal choices. (
War Staff
might only get 5 sockets if it drops very early.)
Not quite. For most other builds, Obsession still isn't the top choice. Or even close. There are like 1 or 2 where it might be (close at least) but I have yet to see anyone run those.

Even Mang Song's died down though as hardly anyone runs fire it seems.
And those few that do just keep sabotaging
Baal
runs by spamming that stupid aoe knockback the entire time...ugh...
Ok, I see. Let's hope that the Mangs builds really die. Then the big Mangs flippers will have lost their bet and will remain on their piles of Mangs that they bought for Ists in the first hours and then offered them for 5-20 Jahs
To be fair it's a super rare drop. Only ones with 15% fire are going for high amounts.

It's good that it's seeing some use now.
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User avatar

oOKIWIOo 1536

RotW Paladin Europe PC
I still have an unid
Mang Song's Lesson
. Highest offer I got before putting it down was 2
Jah
. I decided to keep it because I am still not sure what I want to play and one of my sons really likes the "Fire
Nova
" 😉

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
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Schnorki wrote: 6 hours ago

Even Mang Song's died down though as hardly anyone runs fire it seems.
And those few that do just keep sabotaging
Baal
runs by spamming that stupid aoe knockback the entire time...ugh...

I'm running Fire at the moment. It's very strong. A huge 17 yards aoe blast with about 15k damage (with a consumed
Tainted
Demon but without a Warlock torch) right now and massive enemy fire resistance reduction (plus Infinity, Phoenix shield as I don't have
Ars Al'Diabolos
and Flickering Flame).

I guess there are probably even better Warlock builds out there, but Fire Warlock, although not maxed out by far, is even faster than Fire Sorc and Fire Druid.
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Anyway, it's quite disappointing that staves (and other 2H weapons) have started to be even considered as viable weapons only when they became 1H (for warlocks). Otherwise, the "sword and board" setup beats them because two stat sticks are always better than one.
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waoh wait ... plain or non-OS Archons sell for HR's now?

dammit...i should have paid more attention. =(

There...and back again!

While the snow remains,
veiled in the haze of evening,
a cold leafless branch.
Flowers are only flowers because they fall,
but thankfully the Wind.
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mikelessar wrote: 7 hours ago
A plain
Archon Staff
is about a
Jah
on Traderie right now.
Artificially blown up prices at traderie.. Sorry to speak bold, but imo whoever pays this price has no idea about this game. Only chance to have
War Staff
and
Rune Staff
with 5 OS is when they drop from monsters lower than lvl 25, which excludes
Rune Staff
drops. Other option is that they got rerolled with
Recipe: Normal Quality Weapon of Same Type
, but then,
Archon Staff
may also get 5OS. So in the end, you can't be sure what they roll if purchased from unreliable sources that traders are.

Just do some Cows in Hell and wait for any of the three dropping, then
Larzuk
. Did the same with eth WS, cause it looks cool. I just threw away a plain
Archon Staff
while pondering about trying to give it 6os with
Recipe: Add Sockets to Normal Weapon
, but ended up deeming it not worthy wasting
Perfect Amethyst
and
Ral

Post ur offer before adding me. No PM. Only add me if u offer bin/lf. No reply after 3 days=offer rejected
No socketing service. If u get item otherwise, retract ur pending offer. Edit ur post or post "retracted" to do so.
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Skaijuice wrote: 1 hour ago
waoh wait ... plain or non-OS Archons sell for HR's now?

dammit...i should have paid more attention. =(
On Traderie they do, especially if they already have 6 sockets. Investing a few open
Larzuk
quests would help to sell them quickly for
Jah
+. Lots of
Jah
+ trades in the last days.
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Blubbalutsch wrote: 1 hour ago
mikelessar wrote: 7 hours ago
A plain
Archon Staff
is about a
Jah
on Traderie right now.
Artificially blown up prices at traderie.. Sorry to speak bold, but imo whoever pays this price has no idea about this game.
It's a combination of laziness, impatience and Wealth that makes them pay
Jah
+ for these staffs. I did it myself (all three attributes applied to me).
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