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[Hardcore Single Player] First time Pandemonium Event

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Hello Community,

I am scared. Very scared. I play Hardcore exclusively and have never fought or even seen any of the Uber Bosses in the game.
I want to try, but I want to be prepared, so please bear with me and provide me with some tips if you can.

The character I am planning to take Ubers on with is a Sword
Whirlwind
Barbarian, currently level 91.
UPDATE: Decided to take the plunge :D
- Uber Duriel was quite easy, it was more annoying to deal with the adds.
- As expected,
Lilith
was super scary, my Merc never dies anywhere, he has like 18k Armor and on the off chance he does get hit, he just leeches back up, not so with this girl. That caught me off guard, but I was quick enough getting him back so she couldn't regenerate. The
Decrepify
from Lawbringer saved my life here, I am certain. But we made it, I put out more damage on these guys that I expected.
- Uber Izual was quite easy as well.

I don't think I can go to
Uber Tristram
yet, I seem to be missing about 100 Lightning Resistance and Lightning Absorb
My Gear is as follows:

Arreat's Face
, socketed but socket is still empty.
Duress - in a
Dusk Shroud
, 1237 Defense (I gather CB and Open Wounds are important here)
Death's Hand
- Upgraded to
Demonhide Gloves
(I figure these are nice vs.
Lilith
?)
Death's Guard
- Upgraded to
Demonhide Sash
(Currently my only Source of Cannot be Frozen)
Gore Rider
(More CB, Open Wounds)

Angelic Wings
and
Angelic Halo
, for the Attack Rating Bonus.
A rare Ring with 75 AR, 6% Mana Leech, 28% Light Res, some Fire Res and Poison dmg

Oath - in an
Eth
Balrog Blade
- big damage, high speed, some extra vs. Demons
Kingslayer in a
Champion Sword
- nice CB, Open Wounds, -Target Defense

Sensible alternatives I have include:
- Treachery Armour
- A very decent Bulwark with + to
Battle Orders
and
Battle Command

- Hustle in a Mythic Sword for my Merc, though the level 1 Fana Aura is meh
-
String of Ears
and
Laying of Hands
instead of Death's items though I would lose "Cannot be frozen" and a ton of resists.
- There's also some Crafted
Blood Gloves
: 20 IAS (enough to hit 4 FPA), 4 LL, 8 CB, 12 Life, 8 MF :P
- I also have a
Stormshield
, is it worth losing the dps?

Including my Charms, here are some relevant stats:
- About 3100 Life when buffed
- All Resistances are overcapped slightly, Poison by 25+
- 4 Frame Attacks using
Whirlwind

- 87% FHR, just hitting the breakpoint
- Poison Length reduced by 75% for
Lilith

- 93% Chance to cause Open Wounds
- 63% Crushing Blow
- 15% Deadly Strike
- Roughly 11k Attack Rating with
Whirlwind

- Roughly 8k Attack Rating with
Double Swing


I deal about 650-3000 dmg with my Mainhand and 650-1400 with my Offhand.

My Mercenary is a
Frenzy
Barb with
Duriel's Shell
, Lawbringer,
Lightsabre
and
Crown of Thieves
for some life leech, which I could replace with a GFace.

Is this a good enough setup to try?
Are there specific things I should be looking for?

I am not that worried about Uber Izual or Uber Duriel actually, but
Lilith
I am terrified of.
Chugging 10 minutes worth of Antidotes should get me to 85% Poison Res, being 65% over
Cap
if that's even important.
The poison itself seems to be the lesser problem though, as I read she hits super hard physically, too.. can she one-tap me?

I also gather that before going to Uber Trist, if I make it past the Lesser Ubers, I should not face
Uber Mephisto
without Lightning Absorb and a metric ton of Lightning Res, lest I get one-shot by lightning?
Also which of the Bosses do I need
Life Tap
for, I read conflicting information about drain effectiveness.

Lastly, I have been thinking about leveling a Smiter Paladin to attempt Ubers with instead, as I read it's the "easiest".
What are your thoughts on that?

Any feedback is well appreciated :)
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Hello Community,

I am scared. Very scared. I play Hardcore exclusively and have never fought or even seen any of the Uber Bosses in the game.
I want to try, but I want to be prepared, so please bear with me and provide me with some tips if you can.

The character I am planning to take Ubers on with is a Sword
Whirlwind
Barbarian, currently level 91.
UPDATE: Decided to take the plunge :D
- Uber Duriel was quite easy, it was more annoying to deal with the adds.
- As expected,
Lilith
was super scary, my Merc never dies anywhere, he has like 18k Armor and on the off chance he does get hit, he just leeches back up, not so with this girl. That caught me off guard, but I was quick enough getting him back so she couldn't regenerate. The
Decrepify
from Lawbringer saved my life here, I am certain. But we made it, I put out more damage on these guys that I expected.
- Uber Izual was quite easy as well.

I don't think I can go to
Uber Tristram
yet, I seem to be missing about 100 Lightning Resistance and Lightning Absorb
My Gear is as follows:

Arreat's Face
, socketed but socket is still empty.
Duress - in a
Dusk Shroud
, 1237 Defense (I gather CB and Open Wounds are important here)
Death's Hand
- Upgraded to
Demonhide Gloves
(I figure these are nice vs.
Lilith
?)
Death's Guard
- Upgraded to
Demonhide Sash
(Currently my only Source of Cannot be Frozen)
Gore Rider
(More CB, Open Wounds)

Angelic Wings
and
Angelic Halo
, for the Attack Rating Bonus.
A rare Ring with 75 AR, 6% Mana Leech, 28% Light Res, some Fire Res and Poison dmg

Oath - in an
Eth
Balrog Blade
- big damage, high speed, some extra vs. Demons
Kingslayer in a
Champion Sword
- nice CB, Open Wounds, -Target Defense

Sensible alternatives I have include:
- Treachery Armour
- A very decent Bulwark with + to
Battle Orders
and
Battle Command

- Hustle in a Mythic Sword for my Merc, though the level 1 Fana Aura is meh
-
String of Ears
and
Laying of Hands
instead of Death's items though I would lose "Cannot be frozen" and a ton of resists.
- There's also some Crafted
Blood Gloves
: 20 IAS (enough to hit 4 FPA), 4 LL, 8 CB, 12 Life, 8 MF :P
- I also have a
Stormshield
, is it worth losing the dps?

Including my Charms, here are some relevant stats:
- About 3100 Life when buffed
- All Resistances are overcapped slightly, Poison by 25+
- 4 Frame Attacks using
Whirlwind

- 87% FHR, just hitting the breakpoint
- Poison Length reduced by 75% for
Lilith

- 93% Chance to cause Open Wounds
- 63% Crushing Blow
- 15% Deadly Strike
- Roughly 11k Attack Rating with
Whirlwind

- Roughly 8k Attack Rating with
Double Swing


I deal about 650-3000 dmg with my Mainhand and 650-1400 with my Offhand.

My Mercenary is a
Frenzy
Barb with
Duriel's Shell
, Lawbringer,
Lightsabre
and
Crown of Thieves
for some life leech, which I could replace with a GFace.

Is this a good enough setup to try?
Are there specific things I should be looking for?

I am not that worried about Uber Izual or Uber Duriel actually, but
Lilith
I am terrified of.
Chugging 10 minutes worth of Antidotes should get me to 85% Poison Res, being 65% over
Cap
if that's even important.
The poison itself seems to be the lesser problem though, as I read she hits super hard physically, too.. can she one-tap me?

I also gather that before going to Uber Trist, if I make it past the Lesser Ubers, I should not face
Uber Mephisto
without Lightning Absorb and a metric ton of Lightning Res, lest I get one-shot by lightning?
Also which of the Bosses do I need
Life Tap
for, I read conflicting information about drain effectiveness.

Lastly, I have been thinking about leveling a Smiter Paladin to attempt Ubers with instead, as I read it's the "easiest".
What are your thoughts on that?

Any feedback is well appreciated :)
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First of all, good luck!
You have to have about 300 lightning resistance for
Mephisto
because of his
Conviction
aura.
You can use the Treachery prebuff before entering the
Uber Tristram
(don't forget to swap the armor after it procs).

For Ubers I used
Dracul's Grasp
for
Life Tap
with my Zealer paladin and it worked very well. When life went down, immediately went up again. You can use a
Wand
with
Life Tap
to apply it first rather than relying only on Dracs.

You can find good info on some old posts (one is mine, two years ago when I killed Ubers for the first time). It was on softcore, tho. Lots of adrenaline but not so critically dangerous as hardcore.
There is a map with a route to take to lure the bosses, not to aggro you all at once.

post3629847.html#p3629847

post2891658.html#p2891658

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OP
Thanks, man I appreciate it :)

For sure if I had
Dracul's Grasp
, I would run that with
String of Ears
instead of the set I'm using now. I wonder if I should run
Andariel
on my Sorc until I find a
Raven Frost
as well, that way I still have Cannot be Frozen.

Proccing
Fade
from Treachery and then switching it out again is an interesting choice, do I keep it in my cube?

I think including
Fade
, my Lightning Res would be somewhere around 255ish. So I would be standing at +25 in his
Conviction
Aura, that's not good enough, is it? Guess I also need some charms, better to have a few life points or attack rating less and higher resistance, yes?
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You have a solid setup but, as a barb, Meph dies fast if you have enough res but
Baal
is a pain.

Baal
has an extremely high defense + block chance.
You'll need many AR. Angelic is good but
Enchant
prebuff with
Demon Limb
is
Key
.
Baal
's minions are physical immune so use
Howl
to keep them away.
Anyway, you should use
Howl
against every minions around you.

If you don't use dracul's graps, buy a
Wand
with
Life Tap
changes at
Malah
so you can use it on your weapon switch.
Life Tap
wont proc with WW, so you don't care much about them so keep
Laying of Hands
.

Arreat's Face
is better for ubers than Bulwark (res, AR, + skills), so keep it.
If you have a
Vex
, Death is a bit slow but extremely strong weapon against ubers.

93% open wound is too much and you don't need so much.
Gore Rider
is enough.

Yes, prebuff
Fade
then store it in stash.

Regarding your merc, you want him to survive so don't use
Guillaume's Face
but a more defensive
Helm
.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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OP
Thank you as well!

The
Demon Limb
suggestion is clutch man, but I don't currently have access.

So the way I take it, since I've taken care of
Lilith
, my
Death's Hand
goes in the stash and I get out
Laying of Hands
, super nice since all of them are Demons.

Do I keep
Death's Guard
for Cannot be Frozen? I see
Uber Mephisto
,
Uber Baal
and
Pandemonium Diablo
all have chill effect on their attacks.

So my list of things to farm / buy before I go and face them:
-
Demon Limb
(prebuff with
Enchant
)
- Lightning Res Charms
-
Life Tap
Wand


The prep:

I keep the
Wand
and Treachery in my cube, proc
Fade
somewhere, switch back to Duress. Buff up with my Dual Spirits, then switch in the
Life Tap
Wand
and go nuts.

Do I do this weird thing where I move the adds into one of the buildings? I saw that on a speedrun :D Alternatively for sure can just
Howl
.

Super excited for this!! And not at all a lot to do before, hope I can find the necessary items quickly.
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Rinku wrote: 2 hours ago
So the way I take it, since I've taken care of
Lilith
, my
Death's Hand
goes in the stash and I get out
Laying of Hands
, super nice since all of them are Demons.

Do I keep
Death's Guard
for Cannot be Frozen?
I prefer
Raven Frost
+
String of Ears
or
Thundergod's Vigor
(for meph).
Death's Hand
+
Death's Guard
is ok, but you lose the huge +350% damage against demons from
Laying of Hands
.

Edit : give Lawbringer to your merc. Will help a lot against all the undead minions.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
7
OP
Then a
Raven Frost
is added to the list of items to get first :D
Maybe I can even find a
Thundergod's Vigor
...
Tornado_OLO wrote: 2 hours ago
Edit : give Lawbringer to your merc. Will help a lot against all the undead minions.
He has one :D
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I play alot of Barbarian, and ran a Hardcore Solo-Self Found character through the Ubers.

He was a
Whirlwind
and
Concentrate
hybrid,
Concentrate
is the skill I used for the Ubers and would be my recommendation if you don't mind the respec.

For taking on
Tristram
, your gear looks pretty close, my recommendation:

Arreat's Face

Duress
Laying of Hands
(or
Dracul's Grasp
if you use
Concentrate
)
Verdungo's Hearty Cord
(or
Thundergod's Vigor
specifically for Mehpisto)
Gore Rider

Raven Frost

Stormshield
(completely worth the reduced DPS - lightening resistance, high blocking, huge damage reduction - this is Hardcore, survival comes before all else)

The other ring and amulet can be rares that give you life and resistances (or
Highlord's Wrath
if you can find it)

Proc with Treachery and
Demon Limb
(note, ethereal
Demon Limb
cannot regain its charges, so use sparingly)
If you do not have +3WC items on weapon swap, you can buy them from
Malah
in Act 5 NM

Some Gear Notes:
1. You need Open Wounds, as Ubers have high health regeneration and the Prevent Monster Heal from your Oath does not work on Ubers

2.
Dracul's Grasp
will cast
Life Tap
if using
Concentrate
, but not
Whirlwind
, so if running WW then you need the Lift Tap
Wand
and just go with LoH for gloves

3.
String of Ears
is nice for the damage reduction, but life leech has zero effect on
Mephisto
, and almost no effect on Diablo and
Baal
, so Verdungo's is better
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I'll use a
Raven Frost
also. It has Cannot be frozen but also dex and attack rating.

When I go for Ubers I leave the Cube in stash and use that space for additional charms.
Gheed
's and tomes, too. It's true that you can store some items or potions in it but I prefer not to and go to town when I need to resupply.

Be sure to have a
Belt
full of rejuvs and some more on stash. Be aware that you cannot use town portal in
Uber Tristram
. You have to walk to the red portal to return to
Harrogath
.

I use Enigma with
Teleport
for quick escape and repositioning the merc.

For Treachery's
Fade
you can go outside of town and stay on top of the fire until procs then run to the stash and change it with you main armor. You can leave status tab open to see when your resistances grow or you can see when you become semitransparent when
Fade
procs.

It will last about four minutes, probably enough for Meph fight. After that it will be a little easy with
Baal
and Diablo and not needed so much.

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Florian_G wrote: 1 hour ago

Be sure to have a
Belt
full of rejuvs and some more on stash. Be aware that you cannot use town portal in
Uber Tristram
. You have to walk to the red portal to return to
Harrogath
.
And, be super careful not to lead a pack of minions to the red portal when you run in on your way to town.
If you do, they will be right there waiting for you.
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Phoenix_00 wrote: 1 hour ago
Florian_G wrote: 1 hour ago

Be sure to have a
Belt
full of rejuvs and some more on stash. Be aware that you cannot use town portal in
Uber Tristram
. You have to walk to the red portal to return to
Harrogath
.
And, be super careful not to lead a pack of minions to the red portal when you run in on your way to town.
If you do, they will be right there waiting for you.
That's why I use Enigma, for quick jumps over the foes in case of danger. Many times I had Meph and his gang right over the portal. With instant
Teleport
I managed to lure them away, otherwise, you're screwed.

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I recommend against using LoH against
Uber Baal
. Can be dangerous with his Chilling Armour reflect. Moreso for a Smiter paladin though.

Your first setup with Deaths guard + deaths hand looked pretty solid.

For a WW barb, dual
Fleshripper
is also effective.

Copied and pasted from Aelanwyr's entry comment:

With the Patch 2.4 change to
Blade Mastery
--which extended the effects of that skill to Daggers--the
Fleshripper
is an effective budget option for a
Whirlwind
Barbarian. There are a couple of reasons for this:

-The
Fanged Knife
automatically reaches the 5 frames-per-attack breakpoint, with only 26% Increased Attack Speed needed to achieve the final 4 frames-per-attack breakpoint.

-The short reach of the
Fanged Knife
(a rangeadder of 0) ensures
Whirlwind
's randomly-distributed hits will be concentrated on those targets closest to the Barbarian. Concentrating the damage increases the odds that targets will be downed one-by-one and thereby reduces the overall amount of incoming damage the character receives.

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