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"Guest Monster" entries (Act V Nightmare & Hell, Pandemonium Event)

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Hi all,

While this site has details on areas like
Bloody Foothills
gaining monsters like Burning Dead Archer (a
Skeleton Archer
subtype) in Act 5 Nightmare, these are distinct from those you encounter first in Act 2 Normal. However, this site only has entries for their earlier counterparts. The game actually uses a separate monster for all these "guest monsters" -- Blizzard North just reused their names and looks. Sometimes they use previously unused palettes, or rarely, names like the Siren. If this site is to support monster entries for all these "guests", I think it would maybe be easiest to add new entries named like "
Skeleton Archer
(Act V)" with Burning Dead and Horror Archer subtypes (I don't think others are encountered as guests)? The
Pandemonium Event
uses a similar system for its area monsters.

Here's an example of stat differences for illustration (listing Nightmare stats here):
Attribute Burning Dead Archer Act 2 sk_archer4 Burning Dead Archer Act 5 sk_archer6
Monster Level 43 58
Experience 3,914 10,114
Health 649 1,084
Damage Phys / Fire 15 / 14 20 / 31
Attack Rating 993 1,304
Defense 612 792
Resists (Fire Cold Poison) 50% 0% 60% 70% 33% 100%
I see that The Amazon Basin has data on all these guests but I'm not sure if it's up-to-date.
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Hi all,

While this site has details on areas like
Bloody Foothills
gaining monsters like Burning Dead Archer (a
Skeleton Archer
subtype) in Act 5 Nightmare, these are distinct from those you encounter first in Act 2 Normal. However, this site only has entries for their earlier counterparts. The game actually uses a separate monster for all these "guest monsters" -- Blizzard North just reused their names and looks. Sometimes they use previously unused palettes, or rarely, names like the Siren. If this site is to support monster entries for all these "guests", I think it would maybe be easiest to add new entries named like "
Skeleton Archer
(Act V)" with Burning Dead and Horror Archer subtypes (I don't think others are encountered as guests)? The
Pandemonium Event
uses a similar system for its area monsters.

Here's an example of stat differences for illustration (listing Nightmare stats here):
Attribute Burning Dead Archer Act 2 sk_archer4 Burning Dead Archer Act 5 sk_archer6
Monster Level 43 58
Experience 3,914 10,114
Health 649 1,084
Damage Phys / Fire 15 / 14 20 / 31
Attack Rating 993 1,304
Defense 612 792
Resists (Fire Cold Poison) 50% 0% 60% 70% 33% 100%
I see that The Amazon Basin has data on all these guests but I'm not sure if it's up-to-date.
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Amazon Basin will serve you well for this kind of stuff.

I briefly considered building guest monsters onto the DB but it's a lot of work so decided people wouldn't need it just yet.

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OP
OK, then you're aware and considered them at least. :)

I think it's unfortunate the names were reused this way. It would have been cleaner for a database like this, and also more fun in-game, to encounter new names and palettes. It feels like a feature they threw in late in development, maybe after the translations were done.
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