Interaction between poison nova and firewall

So, I read that poison dmg had bug and is not calculated in frames where any other damage is applied. I am now playing a venomancer with half a Trang Oul's for poison reduction. I also use the firewall from that set. If the bug is true, it means the

Fire Wall actually negates my

Poison Nova damage? I am trying to test it out, but it is not so easy.

Yes, any damage done to a target except by poison itself stops poison tick on the same target. And it's even worse when playing online compared to offline.

• When playing offline, damage only stops poison tick for 1 frame (the frame on which the damage took place).
• When playing online, however, damage stops poison tick for 8 frames (the frame on which the damage took place, plus an additional 7 frames).

(and the same rule applies to monster health regen)

Great discovery and write-up by Pavke:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... ?rdt=44133

tl;dr

Pavke wrote:

• Offline: doing any damage stops Monster Life regeneration for 1 frame
• Online: doing any damage stops Monster Life regeneration for 8 frames
• Online: doing any damage at the rate of 8fpa will completely stop Monster Life regeneration
• This difference can enable some Uber kills Online while being impossible to do Offline
• This difference is present in all Online game modes, D2R and D2LOD
• Offline: doing any damage stops Poison Damage for 1 frame
• Online: doing any damage stops Poison Damage for 8 frames
• Online: doing any damage at the rate of 8fpa will fully stop friendly Poison Damage

ok, so it makes sense as Poison DMG is applied as a negative regen. This is especially contra productive with Trang'Oul's where the firewall has the highest DPS, but it will negate the

Poison Nova. I just managed to test on some creeps in hell act4, and it seems to be dying much slower from

Fire Wall +

Poison Nova than just

Poison Nova

Nova is great for mobs but for bosses my merc had gface, big difference...

ipatrishkov wrote: 14 hours ago

So, I read that poison dmg had bug and is not calculated in frames where any other damage is applied. I am now playing a venomancer with half a Trang Oul's for poison reduction. I also use the firewall from that set. If the bug is true, it means the

Fire Wall actually negates my

Poison Nova damage? I am trying to test it out, but it is not so easy.

As @ShadowHeart stated, you shouldn't use any "other" damage at all. That include minions, fire damage etc etc.

And, finally, I don't know if you are aware, but poison damage have several mechanics when stacked with other sources of poison damage. You should look it up as well.

ipatrishkov wrote: 14 hours ago

ok, so it makes sense as Poison DMG is applied as a negative regen. This is especially contra productive with Trang'Oul's where the firewall has the highest DPS, but it will negate the

Poison Nova. I just managed to test on some creeps in hell act4, and it seems to be dying much slower from

Fire Wall +

Poison Nova than just

Poison Nova

I had several poison necromancers over the ladders. You should stick to

Poison Nova and forget about

Fire Wall. Trang-ouls are really good for the -% Enemy Poison Resistance - you should stack it on yourself the max you can. Stack Crushing Blow on your merc as well and you're good to go.

luizgeo wrote: 3 hours ago

ipatrishkov wrote: 14 hours ago

So, I read that poison dmg had bug and is not calculated in frames where any other damage is applied. I am now playing a venomancer with half a Trang Oul's for poison reduction. I also use the firewall from that set. If the bug is true, it means the

Fire Wall actually negates my

Poison Nova damage? I am trying to test it out, but it is not so easy.

As @ShadowHeart stated, you shouldn't use any "other" damage at all. That include minions, fire damage etc etc.

And, finally, I don't know if you are aware, but poison damage have several mechanics when stacked with other sources of poison damage. You should look it up as well.

Question, does this interaction affect Venom the same way? Because if so, Venom is literally useless online...
Edit, the assassin skill, not the runeword.

FULCRUM75 wrote: 3 hours ago

Question, does this interaction affect Venom the same way? Because if so, Venom is literally useless online...
Edit, the assassin skill, not the runeword.

As far as I know,

Venom: Skill is affected by this but isn’t “self-cancelling”. I.e., only the tick of poison already affecting a target is paused by damage, and

Venom: Skill is delivered by a physical strike and then the 10-frame poison begins on the next frame. Unfortunately, I don’t think anyone has tested this in detail yet. But yeah, other players, mercs, pets, etc, will interfere with

Venom: Skill’s poison.