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+3 Bow/Crossbow Grand Matron Bow...do I trade as is, or risk the socket roll myself?

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Hi Folks,

Found a +3 Bow/ Crossbow Grand Matron Bow.
I'm pretty new to the game (i.e., poor), so am wondering if I should try to trade as is and let someone else take the risk in socketing it, or if I should try it myself with the risk of it becoming junk.

Any thoughts are appreciated!
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Hi Folks,

Found a +3 Bow/ Crossbow Grand Matron Bow.
I'm pretty new to the game (i.e., poor), so am wondering if I should try to trade as is and let someone else take the risk in socketing it, or if I should try it myself with the risk of it becoming junk.

Any thoughts are appreciated!
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Im not fully certain of it but doubt the +3 skills alone is enough? I could be wrong. Last time I found one of these someone told me it wasnt worth anything with just the 3 skills.
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leox 520

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
direct sell to market, Pul- Um. (2-3 pa to sell in 3 day, 4-6 pa to sell in 4-20 day)

if you roll, and 4 os , it is only Lo. socket 1 2 3 5 = 0

Some Trade is available for both rotw and LoD, Most rune , Perfect Gems is only in LoD side.
I will busy at us Stock market open time. 9:30 a.m. ET
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You need it to be 4 open sockets to be valuable.
That's a typical Faith base.

Don't use Larzuk quest to make it socketable because it's going to be max sockets, so 5.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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oOKIWIOo 2174

RotW Paladin Europe PC
With my experience in trying to get the right amount of sockets by cubing I advice selling it 😉 - especially if you do not already have acquired some Wealth.

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
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Gl selling this with no socket. Its going to take ages for a handful of Perfect Gems.

If cubed, chances to get 4 (like 1 to 3) sockets is 1/6 while 5 sockets is 2/6.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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DasNarf 1066

RotW Europe PC
5 sockets can still be used for a Mist bow, which is pretty good for a cheap Cham rune.

Best bow for an Act 1 Rogue if you don't need her for a Fanaticism aura and still one of the best bows for a Bowazon, along with Faith and Windforce.

I would always risk a cube roll when I find a +3 bow. Doesn't cost much.

For low items I also accept: Perfect Amys, Ral, Hel, Tokens, Keys. Please don't offer runes lower than Pul (with the named exceptions).
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DasNarf wrote: 1 year ago
5 sockets can still be used for a Mist bow, which is pretty good for a cheap
Cham rune.
5 sockets value is close to no socket value.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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3 sockets can sometimes be sold too (sold one 2 days ago), low value but better than 1 or 2 os ;)
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fredkid 2149

RotW Warlock Americas PC
I would use cube to add sockets and keep/sell if it rolls 4 or 5 sockets (or 3 - for Hustle - if you are ladder... not may case... )

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
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Equivalence for trades:
Ist = 1 = Token of Absolution = 20 Perfect Gems
Pul=0.33 | Um=0.5| Mal=0.75
Gul=1.5| Vex=2 | Ohm=3 | Lo=4 | Sur=5
Ber=9 | Jah=12 | Cham=9 | Zod = 12
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Take the risk, that's the fun!

All trades are negotiable within reason :)
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I can help with DClone/Ubers/Ancients/Socket Rushes, just ask!
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leox 520

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
direct sell is better .

cube cost is pa Ral Amn which is around 2 Perfect Amethyst

1-2 = 0
3 very hard sell , if sell 1 pa which you cant get back cost
4 very good roll, Lo around 28 pa
5 if you want quick sell, it is likely 4 pa

socket case 1 2 3 5 is very difficult sell. it take long time and will occupy your storage 8.

4 socket case, if you want quick sell, it is Ohm, 20 pa , according to previous people calculation, 1/6 chance to get roll 4.

if you believe statistical calc , take risk
if you are unlucky in most case, go direct sell 2-3 pa it is almost equal to you take risk.

Some Trade is available for both rotw and LoD, Most rune , Perfect Gems is only in LoD side.
I will busy at us Stock market open time. 9:30 a.m. ET
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I'd risk cubing it, if you want to get 4 sockets. Larzuk can help you with 5 sockets. Right before you click the cube button make sure you Shout from the bottom of your lungs "Four! Four!! Four!!!"
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oOKIWIOo 2174

RotW Paladin Europe PC
bigbikefan wrote: 1 year ago
Right before you click the cube button make sure you Shout from the bottom of your lungs "Four! Four!! Four!!!"
That is indeed the most important advice so far 😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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leox 520

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 year ago
leox wrote: 1 year ago
cube cost is pa
Ral
Amn which is around 2
Perfect Amethyst
Not really.
Ist = 7 pame
Ist = 20 Ral
Ist = 20 Amn

So Ral + Amn is less than 1 pame.
Yes, you are right about this . This is accuracy cal.
Cost = 1.66 pa (1 pa + 0.33 pa Ral + 0.33 pa Amn)

4 socket case, 1/6 chance x 21 pa = 3.5 it is almost same to sold bow with 2 pa and 1.66 cost for cube 4 os case.

Of course, if you can manage long term sell, 1 week+ , 4os bow has reasonable 1 Ist gain.

on the other aspect, if you can sell 0os bow around 3-5 pa, it will be definitely win , even if 4 os bow sell for week, cant beat this short time sell(statically, 0-3 5 os chance include) .

Some Trade is available for both rotw and LoD, Most rune , Perfect Gems is only in LoD side.
I will busy at us Stock market open time. 9:30 a.m. ET
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leox 520

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
The problem of this bow is it occupy too many space, 8. And sell period is very long for 1 2 3 5 socket.

The reasonable keep item flow is around 2 week time in storage.

if lucky enough to roll 4 os, it is definitely win.

Some Trade is available for both rotw and LoD, Most rune , Perfect Gems is only in LoD side.
I will busy at us Stock market open time. 9:30 a.m. ET
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Selling it is not worth the effort, IMO. I say cube it. Especially if you would actually use it.

You have a 20% chance of getting something usable/sellable. I say that + the rush is worth more than a few pgems.

GMT-3
I only play softcore, non-ladder.

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fredkid 2149

RotW Warlock Americas PC
Personally, I don't buy 0 socket bases, unless Larzuk would give me the number of sockets I want (which is always the max sockets for the base).
For the same reason, I rarely put to sell 0 socket bases whose max sockets isn't usefull... (On those cases I Charsi them or risk add sockets with the cube if it could be valuable - like an ethereal Mancatcher or this Grand Matron Bow 3 bow sk 😉)

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist = 1 = Token of Absolution = 20 Perfect Gems
Pul=0.33 | Um=0.5| Mal=0.75
Gul=1.5| Vex=2 | Ohm=3 | Lo=4 | Sur=5
Ber=9 | Jah=12 | Cham=9 | Zod = 12
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human_being wrote: 1 year ago
Selling it is not worth the effort, IMO. I say cube it. Especially if you would actually use it.

You have a 20% chance of getting something usable/sellable. I say that + the rush is worth more than a few pgems.
I think it would be 16.6% chance at 4 sockets. Dice rolls 1-6 and if it rolls 5 or 6, you get 5 sockets in this case since it can't roll 6 sockets. So basically a 1/6 chance at 1-4 sockets, and a 2/6 chance at 5 sockets.

That said, 5 socket is usable, so if you look at it that way, it's a 50/50 on not being completely useless!

All trades are negotiable within reason :)
Check out my "Free Stuff" tab for...FREE STUFF!
I can help with DClone/Ubers/Ancients/Socket Rushes, just ask!
Please only add me on bnet if you contact me here first.
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