Poison Necro - Points distribution

Hi.
After maxing out all poison skills how do U fill summoning tree?
Have 1 in clay goilem, 1

Golem Mastery, all needed to get

Revive and some in

Skeleton Mastery and

Raise Skeleton. How do U distribute it?

Hi

If going for golems, expecially

Iron Golem, you should first max

Golem Mastery.

I dont use skellies, only

Revive. And I use the points to max corpse explositon.

But if you want to use skeletons, I guess

Raise Skeleton until you are happy with the number, and then

Skeleton Mastery.
However, when an enemy is poisoned, any hit will stop the poison dmage for that frame. So, don't have to many skeletons.

Hope this helps

Ungern wrote: 4 months ago

However, when an enemy is poisoned, any hit will stop the poison dmage for that frame.

It's actually even worse than that when playing online - any damage will stop poison tick for 8 frames (the frame on which the damage took place plus an additional 7 frames).

(offline it's just 1 frame, like you said)

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... _life_for/

Your first 80 points should go for

Poison Nova,

Poison Explosion,

Poison Dagger,

Corpse Explosion
Then the next points go for

Golem Mastery (if your golem is dying...)
or

Bone Wall (to increase you defense, with

Bone Armor sinergy)
or

Lower Resist (to increase Poison damage a little...)

To use skeletons, you would need 40 points (

Raise Skeleton +

Skeleton Mastery)
And you don't want many minions, because

Offline: doing any damage stops Poison Damage for 1 frame.
Online: doing any damage stops Poison Damage for 8 frames. Online: doing any damage at the rate of 8fpa will fully stop friendly Poison Damage.

(i.e you minions doing damage, reduce you poison damage...)

https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/poison-nova-necromancer
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... ers/165712

ShadowHeart wrote: 4 months ago

Ungern wrote: 4 months ago

However, when an enemy is poisoned, any hit will stop the poison dmage for that frame.

It's actually even worse than that when playing online - any damage will stop poison tick for 8 frames (the frame on which the damage took place plus an additional 7 frames).

(offline it's just 1 frame, like you said)

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... _life_for/

That's even worse indeed. I play online and did not know that. I thought it would be only one frame.
Thank you.

I'm a big fan of maxing

Golem Mastery and using an Insight

Iron Golem. It becomes super tanky with max

Golem Mastery.

Then putting remaining points into

Corpse Explosion for the larger radius

I would definitely max

Golem Mastery before

Corpse Explosion.

Personally, I put

Golem Mastery on the "1 point wonder" category
Except against Ubers, my

Iron Golem never died (and I only have 1 point in

Golem Mastery)

fredkid wrote: 4 months ago

Personally, I put

Golem Mastery on the "1 point wonder" category
Except against Ubers, my

Iron Golem never died (and I only have 1 point in

Golem Mastery)

Agree, I only have one point also. But on a new necro, I would suggest maxing it. I have a lot of +1 to skills, and that makes the one point worth it. But if you lack +1 to skills, it's worth maxing, at least in my experience.

But I'm also not very good at playing with necro, I have a hard time putting down Bone walls like I would like to, so, maybe it's just me who needs a lot of

Golem Mastery.

Corpse Explosion is super for P1, but P8 makes it useless. I'm using

Clay Golem and it works fine. So best option would be playing without summons? I'm using

Attract now and it's amazing because no other curse ovewrites it so I can use

Attract and

Lower Resist at the same time. So maybe

Bone Prison/

Bone Wall, golem and play without pets?

Spectie wrote: 4 months ago

I'm a big fan of maxing

Golem Mastery and using an Insight

Iron Golem. It becomes super tanky with max

Golem Mastery.

And which merc? And what weapon?

i use might merc with Obedience in an ethereal

Cryptic Axe. You can use Infinity to help reduce the defense/magic defense for

Corpse Explosion if you prefer (it doesn't work on poison)

ShadowHeart wrote: 4 months ago

Ungern wrote: 4 months ago

However, when an enemy is poisoned, any hit will stop the poison dmage for that frame.

It's actually even worse than that when playing online - any damage will stop poison tick for 8 frames (the frame on which the damage took place plus an additional 7 frames).

(offline it's just 1 frame, like you said)

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... _life_for/

So what kind of bulid r U using? should I give up using summons? maybe act 3 merc?

Attract maybe and

Bone Wall and let the poison and lightning merc finish the job or sth? this bug with poison dmg is realy annoing.

Yes. I do not use summons.
And I also do not use revives, except for Udars with crushing blow for bosses, and even those, only for ubers or higher player count.

Merc, I use a act 5

Frenzy merc. I stack as much CB on him as possible. He is a boss killer. It is ok for him to stop poison dmg, if crushing blow activates. If not fighting a boss, I keep him away from mobs with

Teleport and Bone walls.

Insight

Iron Golem.

Max poision

Nova and synergies.

One point

Revive,

Iron Golem and

Summon Resist.

One point in

Lower Resist.

One point in

Corpse Explosion and

Bone Armor.

All else in

Bone Wall

3 - piece trang-ouls (gloves,

Belt and shiled) with

Death's Web for the minus to poison resist, with facets.

Total of minus 93% to poison resist.

Enigma,

Sandstorm Trek

Boots, 10% fcr rings, 2 20 amulet and a 3 20

Circlet with facets.

Edit: the -93% poisom res is also with the

Circlet facets

Trang-Oul's Claws

Trang-Oul's Girth

Trang-Oul's Wing

fredkid wrote: 4 months ago

Trang-Oul's Claws

Trang-Oul's Girth

Trang-Oul's Wing

my gear: White +3

Nova, +1

Attract; Bramble (48% pois/21 aura); necro head +2 skill, +3

Nova with facet; trang

Claws; necro

Coronet with facet, trang girth, soj, kathos.

R U using summons or play solo? with merc?

The Stone of Jordan

Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band

Nice to see this post right now, I have a lvl 89 summon necro that I've been thinking about respecing into p

Nova. I tried cloning him to offline with hero editor to fool around a little, but I was very confused with the skill distribution and ended up hating the results. Maybe because I don't have facets and d web.
Currently I have Enigma, HotO or 3 p

Nova 1 decrepfy White

Wand,

Shako, 3 piece trangs, sandstorm, 2 soj, arachnid and mara's.
I don't know if it was my playstyle that was off, or the damage without dweb and facets is lacking. but it felt inferior to using a full summons necro.

roundabout wrote: 4 months ago

Nice to see this post right now, I have a lvl 89 summon necro that I've been thinking about respecing into p

Nova. I tried cloning him to offline with hero editor to fool around a little, but I was very confused with the skill distribution and ended up hating the results. Maybe because I don't have facets and d web.
Currently I have Enigma, HotO or 3 p

Nova 1 decrepfy White

Wand,

Shako, 3 piece trangs, sandstorm, 2 soj, arachnid and mara's.
I don't know if it was my playstyle that was off, or the damage without dweb and facets is lacking. but it felt inferior to using a full summons necro.

Yes, without

Death's Web, the damage is lacking. Minus poison res is the most important stat, and dweb as a lot of it.
For the weapon, try to get as much +skill to

Nova, like a

Blackbog's Sharp, or a good White

Wand, until you get

Death's Web.

Since you have

Teleport, try to reach the 75% fcr, but also the 39 fhr breakpoint. They make it much less cluncky to play.