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Hi everybody 🙂

today I had the first chance to test my new Zealer Pally with Ubers when I helped two people with them.
Meph and Diablo I got down really quickly. But despite using Grief,
Baal
healed himself that quickly that I could not take him down with
Zeal
. After a painful long time I reluctantly switched to
Smite
and then he went down comparatively quick as well.

My question therefore is: Is prevent monster heal not working on the Ubers or
Baal
specifically or what do you think went wrong?

I have 35% OW, 50% CB and 84% DS
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oOKIWIOo 1325

Paladin Europe PC
Hi everybody 🙂

today I had the first chance to test my new Zealer Pally with Ubers when I helped two people with them.
Meph and Diablo I got down really quickly. But despite using Grief,
Baal
healed himself that quickly that I could not take him down with
Zeal
. After a painful long time I reluctantly switched to
Smite
and then he went down comparatively quick as well.

My question therefore is: Is prevent monster heal not working on the Ubers or
Baal
specifically or what do you think went wrong?

I have 35% OW, 50% CB and 84% DS

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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,
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, Tokens, Keys. Please don't offer runes lower than
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fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
Prevent monster heal do not work on ubers.

Use Open Wounds.

You may use Poison Damage too, but Grief has a
Venom: Skill
trigger which cuts the poison length overall...

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
7
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oOKIWIOo 1325

Paladin Europe PC
DasNarf wrote: 9 months ago
Yeah, I experienced that 😁 But what about Open Wounds? Does this not apply also?

I think the major problem was that we were three players which caused
Baal
to constantly
Teleport
around and therefore I surely often did not hit him again whithin eight seconds for Open Wounds to constantly apply... I HATE using
Smite
... 🙄 😇 😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
7
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fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
As you have open wounds... The problem may be just RND... (You are not triggering OW fast enough)

Remember that as
Zeal
has hit chance and may be blocked (
Uber Baal
has high block chance)

Try
Smite
(as it always hit and cannot be blocked)

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
7
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oOKIWIOo 1325

Paladin Europe PC
fredkid wrote: 9 months ago
As you have open wounds... The problem may be just RND... (You are not triggering OW fast enough)

Remember that as
Zeal
has hit chance and may be blocked (
Uber Baal
has high block chance)

Try
Smite
(as it always hit and cannot be blocked)
Yes, and as I said in my last post, I think the problem was that he was teleporting around, therefore constantly "escaping" my Open Wounds...
Next time I try bringing him down SP with
Zeal
. This HAS to work! 😤 😉

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
7
oOKIWIOo wrote: 9 months ago
DasNarf wrote: 9 months ago
Yeah, I experienced that 😁 But what about Open Wounds? Does this not apply also?

I think the major problem was that we were three players which caused
Baal
to constantly teleporting around and therefore I surely often did not hit him again whithin eight seconds for Open Wounds to constantly apply... I HATE using
Smite
... 🙄 😇 😁
Try having
Charge
ready on switch, that way you can attack pretty much to anywhere you can see very rapidly, and at the same time close to
Smite
/
Zeal
range again.
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fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
Probably the problem was really the constant
Teleport
...

I forgot that I've done Ubers a few times with my Fury Druid using
Dracul's Grasp
, and ubers' healing was no issue to me.
(
Fury: Skill
is similar to
Zeal
and 25% Open wounds is less then you have)

So in normal situations you should have no problem with
Zeal
and some Open wounds 🤔

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
7
OP
User avatar

oOKIWIOo 1325

Paladin Europe PC
fredkid wrote: 9 months ago
Probably the problem was really the constant
Teleport
...

I forgot that I've done Ubers a few times with my Fury Druid using
Dracul's Grasp
, and ubers' healing was no issue to me.
(
Fury: Skill
is similar to
Zeal
and 25% Open wounds is less then you have)

So in normal situations you should have no problem with
Zeal
and some Open wounds 🤔
I used
Dracul's Grasp
, too... Btw, I just noticed that I even had forgotten to use my CTA 😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
7
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marl71 255

Americas PC
Just to reemphasize fredkid's point,
Uber Baal
has a 55% block chance, and he is also lvl110 with high defense, making him hard to hit too. So even at best, your overall hit chance with
Zeal
is already pretty low

If you are low level and low AR, your chance to hit will be even worse. Maybe
Demon Limb
could help if you aren't using already. It can also be eye-opening to see how many of your hits miss or block by turning on the "miss indicator" in the game options
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OP
User avatar

oOKIWIOo 1325

Paladin Europe PC
marl71 wrote: 9 months ago
Just to reemphasize fredkid's point,
Uber Baal
has a 55% block chance, and he is also lvl110 with high defense, making him hard to hit too. So even at best, your overall hit chance with
Zeal
is already pretty low

If you are low level and low AR, your chance to hit will be even worse. Maybe
Demon Limb
could help if you aren't using already. It can also be eye-opening to see how many of your hits miss or block by turning on the "miss indicator" in the game options
Yes, I thought so, too. I am at lvl 93, my AR is at 7367 (ca. 400 below the "best case value" at Maxroll) and I have a Merc with Infinity. Nonetheless, it seems I maybe still miss too often...

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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