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I just did ubers for the first time on my barbarian. I have been doing them on my Mosaic sin but wanted to try barb.

I won, never died - but Baal took me literally so long my Grief Berserker Axe went from full dura down to 2.

I was using Grief and Death
my merc was using Last Wish
and I had a poison charm on it.
Both Grief and Last Wish have prevent monster heal and poison, from what i understand, is supposed to prevent monster heal - yet he was healing CONSTANTLY. Any reason why this would be or what i could do in the future?
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I just did ubers for the first time on my barbarian. I have been doing them on my Mosaic sin but wanted to try barb.

I won, never died - but Baal took me literally so long my Grief Berserker Axe went from full dura down to 2.

I was using Grief and Death
my merc was using Last Wish
and I had a poison charm on it.
Both Grief and Last Wish have prevent monster heal and poison, from what i understand, is supposed to prevent monster heal - yet he was healing CONSTANTLY. Any reason why this would be or what i could do in the future?

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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Spectie wrote: 1 year ago
I just did ubers for the first time on my barbarian. I have been doing them on my Mosaic sin but wanted to try barb.

I won, never died - but Baal took me literally so long my Grief Berserker Axe went from full dura down to 2.

I was using Grief and Death
my merc was using Last Wish
and I had a poison charm on it.
Both Grief and Last Wish have prevent monster heal and poison, from what i understand, is supposed to prevent monster heal - yet he was healing CONSTANTLY. Any reason why this would be or what i could do in the future?
Prevent monster heal doesn't work on ubers. You need a source of open wounds to stop the regeneration, such as Gore Rider or Dracul's Grasp. And the ubers have level higher than your char, so even with excelent attack rating, won't hit ubers easily. That's why smiter is best char for doing ubers, Smite never misses.

PS: Ignore target's defense doesn't work on ubers also.
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oh, well okay then LOL. I have Grief, Last Wish, Death, Beast, and Breath of the Dying. I figured Grief for PMH and Death for crushing blow was the best combo.

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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yeah i have gore riders

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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and i would put up my Mosaic sin against a Smite pally any day, it does them crazy fast and easy - i just wanted to try on my barb :)

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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fredkid 2146

RotW Warlock Americas PC
Poison damage works to prevent heal too (if you can keep him poisoned constantly).
But it is a little hard to do this with Grief as it triggers Venom: Skill (which cuts the length of all your poison damage to 0.4s....)

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Ist = 1 = Token of Absolution = 20 Perfect Gems
Pul=0.33 | Um=0.5| Mal=0.75
Gul=1.5| Vex=2 | Ohm=3 | Lo=4 | Sur=5
Ber=9 | Jah=12 | Cham=9 | Zod = 12
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OP
oh interesting. Maybe next time ill do like ebodtd and Death?

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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i did not have any issues with Mephisto or diablo, just baals regen and mana drain was annoying (ww barb)

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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OP
got a nice little torch out of it, but i have yet to sell a single torch for more than an Ist so idk. maybe ubers aren't for me lol

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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botd is less strong than Grief.
Grief has -25% def and 20% deadly strike which are both strong against ubers.

What's your AR ? I'm pretty sure your issue comes from this.

Have a look at that thread : forums/ubers-help-again-t1593514.html

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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What's your build ?

Many advice are given for Frenzy in the thread. But WW complied.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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OP
ww Frenzy hybrid, but my only issue was Baal self healing, i didn't know prevent monster heal didn't work. i think the minions spawning were eating a lot of my attacks and they are physical immune so it was wonky.

I ended up putting a Lawbringer on my merc for the Decrepify proc and it was fine, i was just really confused about him healing when i had poison and prevent monster heal on :)

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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Don't try to kill them, simply use Howl to keep them away from you.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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yep, again it wasn't really a big issue with them, i just didn't realize that prevent monster heal didn't work on the ubers and i was just spamming ww on him with the assumption it would and it was quite weird.

with Howl and more focused attacks i should be able to keep open wounds up next time via goreriders. Mephisto and diablo were very easy

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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OP
per your advice in the other thread i may just self wield the lash wish + a Death, and give my a5 merc a Grief and a Lawbringer next attempt

Currently playing SSF Offline only
95 Javazon - 94 fire ball sorc - 91 Frenzy barb
91 Dragon Tail assassin - 87 hammerdin - 95 fire warlock - 84 Fury druid
Offline milestones achieved: Enigma, Phoenix, Grief, Fortitude, Obsession, Infinity, Death
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Life Tap from Last Wish won't proc with WW.
Not sure this is usefull.
Grief will help you reaching a better IAS breakpoint.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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fredkid 2146

RotW Warlock Americas PC
Whirlwind
Whirlwind does not work with: "On Attack", "On Striking", or "When You Kill an Enemy" item properties.

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist = 1 = Token of Absolution = 20 Perfect Gems
Pul=0.33 | Um=0.5| Mal=0.75
Gul=1.5| Vex=2 | Ohm=3 | Lo=4 | Sur=5
Ber=9 | Jah=12 | Cham=9 | Zod = 12
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