Blizzard sorc: Upgrading from tal set

Hi,
I've been using the complete Tal set for a long time now for by blizzard sorc. I have a few HRs available I could spend on her, but since I'm not super rich, I would like to make sure that I actually get a better equiment for the investment and wanted to ask for some ideas.

Current setup: full Tal set ( Helm&armour: PT, orb: Ist), 35FCR Spirit Monarch, 2x 10fcr rings, 40MF chancies, rare Boots with 30FWR/10FHR/25MF, low torch, low anni, 39MF gheeds, sunder, 1 cold skiller, bunch of mf/life small charms, cta on swap
merc: Treachery, reaper, andy's
Build: pure blizzard (thanks to sunder)

With this setup I reach: 430MF, 90 FHR, 105 FCR, res: 73-75f/l/p, 35c, 2.2k life with cta

My goal is to increase the killspeed of the sorc, but I don't really want to go down in any of these categories by a significant amount.
If I upgrade my gear, I want to reach (at least) the same FCR break point.

Here are some other items I already have available, I could use:

Helm: Shako, a 2/20 Circlet with not much else
armor: 35@ viper, Ormus with static (lol)
Belt: Snowclash, nosferatu, Goldwrap
Weapon: 3 eschutas, 34FCR Spirit, occulus
shield: 35FCR Spirit
amulet: 2/5fcr + fire res, 28@ maras
rings: selection of 10fcr + different res, 1x soj, 27/28 mf nagels
Boots: sandstorm, Waterwalk, some rare Boots with FRW/res/MF
gloves: trang

(ofc I could combine them with any parts of the Tal set)

On top of that I have a handful of runes to spend on buying things. Something in the order of 5 Ohm.

Can I actually get a better setup with this? What would make sense to spend the money on?

Death's Fathom. totally awesome for a cold sorc. You need this!

Also Shako is nice for the mf, or if you really want more damage, Nightwing's Veil would be sweet.

3 piece tals is a pretty standard cold sorc setup (armor, Belt and amulet).

You might need to swap to trangs gloves for more fcr. but you should still be around 400mf if you use Shako.

I just noticed you don't have Infinity. I suspect it is still really good for cold, but I haven't played blizz since sunders came in.

I recently switched to Doom in a Berserker Axe form Death's Fathom. That means that with my particular set up every monster, no matter how cold immune is below 0 res.
Granted for non immunes this is overkill, but I quite like it, since it utilizes a rarely used runeword.

I switched from full Tals set to Chains of Honor, Shako, Arachnid Mesh, HOTO, Spirit in Monarch, Frostburn, Silkweave, 2 SOJs and Tal Rasha's Adjudication.

My build is different - gives me tons and tons of mana because to survive - I rely on Energy Shield (Memory with +9 to ES, in total level 39). Also I don't really care about MF (which is only 99%) because it doesn't affect rune drops.

My Act 2 merc shreds with Fortitude, Obedience and Crown of Thieves. However I'm working hard to replace his Obedience with Infinity to lower cold resistance even more (cold sunder charm, Cold Mastery plus Conviction from Infinity).

moot11 wrote: 3 years ago

Death's Fathom. totally awesome for a cold sorc. You need this!

Also Shako is nice for the mf, or if you really want more damage, Nightwing's Veil would be sweet.

3 piece tals is a pretty standard cold sorc setup (armor, Belt and amulet).

You might need to swap to trangs gloves for more fcr. but you should still be around 400mf if you use Shako.

I just noticed you don't have Infinity. I suspect it is still really good for cold, but I haven't played blizz since sunders came in.

If I change to Death's Fathom and Shako (no other changes), I get
+ 0-15% cold dmg
+ 1 skill
+ 25-40 fire/llight res
+ 10% DR

but I lose:
- 10%fcr
- 80 @
- 15mf
- a bunch of life/mana


Am I missing anything? It doesn't quite feel worth it

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

I recently switched to Doom in a Berserker Axe form Death's Fathom. That means that with my particular set up every monster, no matter how cold immune is below 0 res.
Granted for non immunes this is overkill, but I quite like it, since it utilizes a rarely used runeword.

Maybe I should give it a try!

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

I recently switched to Doom in a Berserker Axe form Death's Fathom. That means that with my particular set up every monster, no matter how cold immune is below 0 res.
Granted for non immunes this is overkill, but I quite like it, since it utilizes a rarely used runeword.

A combination of Doom, cold sunder, Cold Mastery and Infinity on your merc would demolish everything o_O

Kriss_De_Valnor_ wrote: 3 years ago

I switched from full Tals set to Chains of Honor, Shako, Arachnid Mesh, HOTO, Spirit in Monarch, Frostburn, Silkweave, 2 SOJs and Tal Rasha's Adjudication.

My build is different - gives me tons and tons of mana because to survive - I rely on Energy Shield (Memory with +9 to ES, in total level 39). Also I don't really care about MF (which is only 99%) because it doesn't affect rune drops.

My Act 2 merc shreds with Fortitude, Obedience and Crown of Thieves. However I'm working hard to replace his Obedience with Infinity to lower cold resistance even more (cold sunder charm, Cold Mastery plus Conviction from Infinity).

Yeah, that's complete out of the price range I mentioned.

moot11 wrote: 3 years ago

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

I recently switched to Doom in a Berserker Axe form Death's Fathom. That means that with my particular set up every monster, no matter how cold immune is below 0 res.
Granted for non immunes this is overkill, but I quite like it, since it utilizes a rarely used runeword.

Maybe I should give it a try!

If you want I can give you a full gear breakdown.

Another huge plus of the build is, that when people see you wielding an Axe and ask you "wtf is that?"
you can direct them to this YouTube Clip.

Kriss_De_Valnor_ wrote: 3 years ago

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

I recently switched to Doom in a Berserker Axe form Death's Fathom. That means that with my particular set up every monster, no matter how cold immune is below 0 res.
Granted for non immunes this is overkill, but I quite like it, since it utilizes a rarely used runeword.

A combination of Doom, cold sunder, Cold Mastery and Infinity on your merc would demolish everything o_O

Don't forget 2 facets :DDDD

If you want to have mf, you could go down in mf to 300-350% the increase to find unique items after 300-350 is very low..

I use a Nova energyshield sorc setup with just 120% mf..got great kill speed with 'expensive' setup

Infinity + griffon both on sorc and Fortitude for merc, 2 skill 10 cast + all res amu.

if you can incease your kill speed with 20% you will also find uniques more often even with alot less mf, since mf have diminishing returns after 100%.. google mf chart and see what you kind of mf you want to have.

SuperIllu wrote: 3 years ago

If I change to Death's Fathom and Shako (no other changes), I get
+ 0-15% cold dmg
+ 1 skill
+ 25-40 fire/llight res
+ 10% DR

but I lose:
- 10%fcr
- 80 @
- 15mf
- a bunch of life/mana


Am I missing anything? It doesn't quite feel worth it

yeah it's a compromise. But you wanted more damage??
-15mf is literally nothing. you don't lose here, you could lose about 100 and not really notice.
My current cold build has 20 poison res, I could use Carrion Wind to fix it but I use a SoJ and cope with having to use a health pot or antidote.
Yeah you don't want to lose the FCR breakpoint so lose the chancies and go for trangs or Magefist. this also frees up a ring slot for a SoJ.
SoJ should make up the mana and a few hundred less life wont hurt

I'm not so much worried about the mf, but losing 80 all res really hurts.
Souls in the worldstone currently eat 1k of my life with one focused shot at 75 light res.

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

If you want I can give you a full gear breakdown.

Another huge plus of the build is, that when people see you wielding an Axe and ask you "wtf is that?"
you can direct them to this YouTube Clip.

yeah style points!!!11!
keen to see what you have. my current setup will have a fire res and FCR defect. maybe i need to ditch tals and go for CoH and aracs?

SuperIllu wrote: 3 years ago

I'm not so much worried about the mf, but losing 80 all res really hurts.
Souls in the worldstone currently eat 1k of my life with one focused shot at 75 light res.

oh I still have capped res except for poison. using fire and cold small charms but light is maxed without them.
Do you need that 80 res?? I think if you hover over the res stat you need 'bonus 175' to be maxed

SuperIllu wrote: 3 years ago

Kriss_De_Valnor_ wrote: 3 years ago

I switched from full Tals set to Chains of Honor, Shako, Arachnid Mesh, HOTO, Spirit in Monarch, Frostburn, Silkweave, 2 SOJs and Tal Rasha's Adjudication.

My build is different - gives me tons and tons of mana because to survive - I rely on Energy Shield (Memory with +9 to ES, in total level 39). Also I don't really care about MF (which is only 99%) because it doesn't affect rune drops.

My Act 2 merc shreds with Fortitude, Obedience and Crown of Thieves. However I'm working hard to replace his Obedience with Infinity to lower cold resistance even more (cold sunder charm, Cold Mastery plus Conviction from Infinity).

Yeah, that's complete out of the price range I mentioned.

Some time ago it was out of the price range for me too but i'm sure one day you will grab all this gear, it is only a matter of time.

Doom + nightwing's + viper.
Viper provides both FCR and resist.
Reset skill to use ES + Insight Prayer merc.

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

Kriss_De_Valnor_ wrote: 3 years ago

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

I recently switched to Doom in a Berserker Axe form Death's Fathom. That means that with my particular set up every monster, no matter how cold immune is below 0 res.
Granted for non immunes this is overkill, but I quite like it, since it utilizes a rarely used runeword.

A combination of Doom, cold sunder, Cold Mastery and Infinity on your merc would demolish everything o_O

Don't forget 2 facets :DDDD

Yeah, I did forget about them ))

SuperIllu wrote: 3 years ago

I'm not so much worried about the mf, but losing 80 all res really hurts.
Souls in the worldstone currently eat 1k of my life with one focused shot at 75 light res.

That's why my sorc relies on Energy Shield, Memory is not so expensive and if you are lucky (like I was) you will find a +3 to ES 4 socket staff which will give you +9 to ES.

moot11 wrote: 3 years ago

KeepHammering wrote: 3 years ago

If you want I can give you a full gear breakdown.

Another huge plus of the build is, that when people see you wielding an Axe and ask you "wtf is that?"
you can direct them to this YouTube Clip.

yeah style points!!!11!
keen to see what you have. my current setup will have a fire res and FCR defect. maybe i need to ditch tals and go for CoH and aracs?

you definitely need arac.

Head: Nightwings with a facet
Weapon: Doom
shield: Spirit (gotta have 35fcr!)
armor: Blizzard Ormus with facet
gloves: Trang Claws to offset the sunder penalty a little.
Belt: arac
Boots: tri res Boots, high fire res priority, light res always welcome.
amulet: 2 skills (i got a two cold skills for cheap) gotta have 10 fcr, resis are a nice bonus.

I'm not gonna insult your skill by telling you what to put in your inventory. supplement resis, mana, life, fhr, as you see fit.

my build is a hybrid Frozen Orb/blizzard glass cannon, Teleport, Warmth, no Energy Shield (my philosophy is, if you play cold sorc with an active Holy Freeze aura and you still get got, you deserve it ), max out blizzard and synergies, the rest in Frozen Orb, Cold Mastery, as you see fit.

Infinity on your merc is nice, but not necessary. -17 res to immunes, or Mana regen from Insight, your call.