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Heyo. Might have some time to play soon so I was thinking of doing a MA sin. Now that ladder has been out for a while can I get your thoughts on what Mosaic bases seem to work best, what +skills are you looking for (is it just PS?) Do the +skills make a big difference, where did you find your bases etc. Txs
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y2kid 111

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Heyo. Might have some time to play soon so I was thinking of doing a MA sin. Now that ladder has been out for a while can I get your thoughts on what Mosaic bases seem to work best, what +skills are you looking for (is it just PS?) Do the +skills make a big difference, where did you find your bases etc. Txs

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BillyMaysed 2265Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
With how broken Mosaic is atm the +skills dont really matter. you faceroll everything regardless.

You'll want 3os
Runic Talons
for max speed, although im sure
Feral Claws
would work too. Which id hunt for in the cow level as usual for socketed hell gear. Hell bovines have the highest chance to drop according to the item calc: (
Hell Bovine
- hellbovine (H) The
Secret Cow Level
1:7037)

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Schnorki 3881Moderator

PC
BillyMaysed wrote: 1 year ago
With how broken Mosaic is atm the +skills dont really matter. you faceroll everything regardless.
Sad but true
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y2kid 111

PC
BillyMaysed wrote: 1 year ago
With how broken Mosaic is atm the +skills dont really matter. you faceroll everything regardless.

You'll want 3os
Runic Talons
for max speed, although im sure
Feral Claws
would work too. Which id hunt for in the cow level as usual for socketed hell gear. Hell bovines have the highest chance to drop according to the item calc: (
Hell Bovine
- hellbovine (H) The
Secret Cow Level
1:7037)
Is (attack) speed actually important? I heard too much AS could lead to some next hit delay bugs that cause not all your hits to take effect thus lowering your dmg output.

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BillyMaysed 2265Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
y2kid wrote: 1 year ago
BillyMaysed wrote: 1 year ago
With how broken Mosaic is atm the +skills dont really matter. you faceroll everything regardless.

You'll want 3os
Runic Talons
for max speed, although im sure
Feral Claws
would work too. Which id hunt for in the cow level as usual for socketed hell gear. Hell bovines have the highest chance to drop according to the item calc: (
Hell Bovine
- hellbovine (H) The
Secret Cow Level
1:7037)
Is (attack) speed actually important? I heard too much AS could lead to some next hit delay bugs that cause not all your hits to take effect thus lowering your dmg output.
hmm, I haven’t seen anything about too much AS doing that but that could be. Im sure you could use slow
Claws
and still faceroll everything. With how OP it is I’m sure you could walk around naked with just slow dual Mosaic’s and still do just fine. Lol. I think once blizz fixes/nerfs it then it’ll be time to re-calculate needs for higher DPS.

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y2kid 111

PC
BillyMaysed wrote: 1 year ago
y2kid wrote: 1 year ago
BillyMaysed wrote: 1 year ago
With how broken Mosaic is atm the +skills dont really matter. you faceroll everything regardless.

You'll want 3os
Runic Talons
for max speed, although im sure
Feral Claws
would work too. Which id hunt for in the cow level as usual for socketed hell gear. Hell bovines have the highest chance to drop according to the item calc: (
Hell Bovine
- hellbovine (H) The
Secret Cow Level
1:7037)
Is (attack) speed actually important? I heard too much AS could lead to some next hit delay bugs that cause not all your hits to take effect thus lowering your dmg output.
hmm, I haven’t seen anything about too much AS doing that but that could be. Im sure you could use slow
Claws
and still faceroll everything. With how OP it is I’m sure you could walk around naked with just slow dual Mosaic’s and still do just fine. Lol. I think once blizz fixes/nerfs it then it’ll be time to re-calculate needs for higher DPS.
I'd honestly be fine with them leaving it as is. Just to shuffle the "does not consume
Charge
" in
Claw Mastery
or something since using x2 Mosaic is kind of a pain build-diversity wise. Mosaic could prolong the duration up from 15 seconds of your charges which would still give Mosaic a good use imo. But yeah overall even if they do not touch that build for 2-3 seasons I'd personally be ok since having new builds being top tier in the meta is kind of refreshing. Def would not want to see a sin nerf into oblivion again.

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Necrarch 2117Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
As of now, anyway, plan on using
Fade
instead of BoS and to be at 4 fps, not 3 if you use
Dragon Talon
to avoid Next Hit Delay, if I understood correctly War Theory / Llama's videos.

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Supposedly using slow
Claws
or in Principle staying at 4 frames is beneficial for the actual damage output because of the next hit delay issue.
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Soli 14

Playstation
Is it possible to have a claw base that has +3 to any three of PS, BoI, CoT, FoF, TS, CS? Probably that.

But then again a base of
Mind Blast
,
Dragon Flight
, and Shadow could theoretically be 8 points you save to dump into
Fade
sooner.
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Soli wrote: 1 year ago
Is it possible to have a claw base that has +3 to any three of PS, BoI, CoT, FoF, TS, CS? Probably that.
claw can has only those skills: so the only usable skills for martial artsin are PS,
Dragon Flight
and mindblast (last two saves you few skill points)

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Soli 14

Playstation
The Flash wrote: 1 year ago
Soli wrote: 1 year ago
Is it possible to have a claw base that has +3 to any three of PS, BoI, CoT, FoF, TS, CS? Probably that.
claw can has only those skills:
obrazek.png

so the only usable skills for martial artsin are PS,
Dragon Flight
and mindblast (last two saves you few skill points)
Thanks for this, makes alot of sense for the bases I've been finding lol.

What about
Blades of Ice
? Synergy for PS and I use BoI In almost all my rotations for the freeze.

In light of this, the best claw bases IMO would be +3 PS, +3 BoI, and +1-3
Dragon Flight
/
Mind Blast
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Soli wrote: 1 year ago
What about
Blades of Ice
?
yes helps u with Ice dmg ! I totally forget about that skill.
Soli wrote: 1 year ago
In light of this, the best claw bases IMO would be +3 PS, +3 BoI, and +1-3
Dragon Flight
/
Mind Blast
agree, but for this combination you would need like 20ber

check my other trades: member/The%20Flash/
my free items: simple t4t is fine with me :) what you pay is up to you
free anni to my WTS
LF
Ral
,
Nef
, keys, pame, pruby, jewel
7
Dragon Flight
is way better than
Mind Blast
as of now you won't ever use mine blast EVER my char is so op I use charms of plus to shadow discipline just for more dmg % reduced on
Fade
because survivability is more of a issue than any p8 farming on any boss or anything at all... you have 3 elements your dishing out major dmg with at all time and nothing in the game can run or hide from you but they can kill you at times lol
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Soli 14

Playstation
The Flash wrote: 1 year ago
Soli wrote: 1 year ago
What about
Blades of Ice
?
yes helps u with Ice dmg ! I totally forget about that skill.
Soli wrote: 1 year ago
In light of this, the best claw bases IMO would be +3 PS, +3 BoI, and +1-3
Dragon Flight
/
Mind Blast
agree, but for this combination you would need like 20ber
I have a claw base with
Claws of Thunder
, what gives?
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Soli wrote: 1 year ago
The Flash wrote: 1 year ago
Soli wrote: 1 year ago
What about
Blades of Ice
?
yes helps u with Ice dmg ! I totally forget about that skill.
Soli wrote: 1 year ago
In light of this, the best claw bases IMO would be +3 PS, +3 BoI, and +1-3
Dragon Flight
/
Mind Blast
agree, but for this combination you would need like 20ber
I have a claw base with
Claws of Thunder
, what gives?
imho not much. People wants +3PS, but if u r regular user then its good for you or u can buy +3PS ;)

check my other trades: member/The%20Flash/
my free items: simple t4t is fine with me :) what you pay is up to you
free anni to my WTS
LF
Ral
,
Nef
, keys, pame, pruby, jewel
7
BillyMaysed wrote: 1 year ago
y2kid wrote: 1 year ago
BillyMaysed wrote: 1 year ago
With how broken Mosaic is atm the +skills dont really matter. you faceroll everything regardless.

You'll want 3os
Runic Talons
for max speed, although im sure
Feral Claws
would work too. Which id hunt for in the cow level as usual for socketed hell gear. Hell bovines have the highest chance to drop according to the item calc: (
Hell Bovine
- hellbovine (H) The
Secret Cow Level
1:7037)
Is (attack) speed actually important? I heard too much AS could lead to some next hit delay bugs that cause not all your hits to take effect thus lowering your dmg output.
hmm, I haven’t seen anything about too much AS doing that but that could be. Im sure you could use slow
Claws
and still faceroll everything. With how OP it is I’m sure you could walk around naked with just slow dual Mosaic’s and still do just fine. Lol. I think once blizz fixes/nerfs it then it’ll be time to re-calculate needs for higher DPS.
what i heard with AS is if u r on 3frames, and you use
Dragon Talon
and u casting meteors you do 5kicks in set, but it activates only 4meteors so ur dmg is 80% what it is suppose to do on paper (I am not sure if this issue is only with meteors or with all other charges), but because its overpowered as hell. I would still use 3frames rather than 4.

check my other trades: member/The%20Flash/
my free items: simple t4t is fine with me :) what you pay is up to you
free anni to my WTS
LF
Ral
,
Nef
, keys, pame, pruby, jewel
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Soli 14

Playstation
The Flash wrote: 1 year ago
Soli wrote: 1 year ago
The Flash wrote: 1 year ago

yes helps u with Ice dmg ! I totally forget about that skill.


agree, but for this combination you would need like 20ber
I have a claw base with
Claws of Thunder
, what gives?
imho not much. People wants +3PS, but if u r regular user then its good for you or u can buy +3PS ;)
No, I mean
Claws of Thunder
is not one of the skills on your chart of claw base skills
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Soli wrote: 1 year ago
The Flash wrote: 1 year ago
Soli wrote: 1 year ago


I have a claw base with
Claws of Thunder
, what gives?
imho not much. People wants +3PS, but if u r regular user then its good for you or u can buy +3PS ;)
No, I mean
Claws of Thunder
is not one of the skills on your chart of claw base skills
ohh I just realized there was a scroll bar :D
imho best website to check it (best visualized and all items on one page is https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner

check my other trades: member/The%20Flash/
my free items: simple t4t is fine with me :) what you pay is up to you
free anni to my WTS
LF
Ral
,
Nef
, keys, pame, pruby, jewel
7
also there are some combination which arent possible:
for example those ones cannot be on item at same time as PS so for example you can have +3PS, +3 BoI and +3 CoT But if u went for dual those
Charge
up skills. You just cant have
Fade
,
Mind Blast
and
Dragon Flight
at the same time. (unless u go PvP you wont need
Mind Blast
). Sorry for missleading information before

here is the link for my theory crafted martial art assassin - focus on dmg and dmg only
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/mw01062k

check my other trades: member/The%20Flash/
my free items: simple t4t is fine with me :) what you pay is up to you
free anni to my WTS
LF
Ral
,
Nef
, keys, pame, pruby, jewel
7
There is no need to max out
Dragon Talon
and since it's OP anyway you can get away with not completely maxing any of the MA skills was well.
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