Trading has died?

I'm experiencing the issue throughout multiple websites, I'm not sure whether the player base is just waiting for ladder or player count has just dwindled

Personally ive been only seeking for perfect and very rare items, i have all i need and i dont bother to trade the stuff i find.

Also ive been using traderie a lot because finding specific stats on items is easier there. Just my personal experience which probably explains a few of the players behavior

I have noticed as well, but it doesn't concern me since (as a few people have pointed out) the D2 economy tends to be seasonal. Trading will rebound.

I have been thinking recently, though, that the marketplace might benefit from some management to cull the excessive supply. In the real world, what's going on now at d2.io would probably be deflationary. If I have an item that approaches 100 views but no offers, I let it expire (or straight delete it). I don't know how many other sellers do that.

I think I've seen enough of @Teebling's posts to correctly assume they prefer fewer market controls not more, but something like a cap on the number of bumps for a trade that has no posts except the OP might help? There are obviously ways to game that approach, but I'm not sure all sellers are being realistic about demand, which definitely depresses trade.

In game traffic probably will also increase not only when the ladder season drops but also when they drop act 6. Which I personally believe Blizzard is working on a act 6 and I'm assuming will be coming out some time this year.

BlazeXo wrote: 2 years ago

In game traffic probably will also increase not only when the ladder season drops but also when they drop act 6. Which I personally believe Blizzard is working on a act 6 and I'm assuming will be coming out some time this year.

The odds of Act 6 for D2R being made are virtually zero. It makes absolutely no sense Lore-wise OR business-wise.
They could probably add a mapping system somewhere down the road, but an actual full act? No, that would be idiotic.

cristobal03 wrote: 2 years ago

I have noticed as well, but it doesn't concern me since (as a few people have pointed out) the D2 economy tends to be seasonal. Trading will rebound.

I have been thinking recently, though, that the marketplace might benefit from some management to cull the excessive supply. In the real world, what's going on now at d2.io would probably be deflationary. If I have an item that approaches 100 views but no offers, I let it expire (or straight delete it). I don't know how many other sellers do that.

I think I've seen enough of @Teebling's posts to correctly assume they prefer fewer market controls not more, but something like a cap on the number of bumps for a trade that has no posts except the OP might help? There are obviously ways to game that approach, but I'm not sure all sellers are being realistic about demand, which definitely depresses trade.

same here most of the times w8ing for some views or if a week passes and nothing happens it goes in the FREE DROPS HERE session normal games.
But most players now wait for the Ladder some even play still old d2 till ladders starts :S

Ladder and 2.4 will pick things back up! I too noticed less volume.

Always seems to pick up nice on Saturdays!!

All loot is pointless until ladder starts.

Besides there's a huge entrance requirement for entering the market. Nobody has the runes, required for purchasing any worthy items.

That's why all my stash is always cheap and on sale for

Perfect Gems)

subaridji wrote: 2 years ago

All loot is pointless until ladder starts.

Besides there's a huge entrance requirement for entering the market. Nobody has the runes, required for purchasing any worthy items.

That's why all my stash is always cheap and on sale for

Perfect Gems)

1. Ladders don't last forever. Following your logic, all ladder loot is objectively pointless six weeks into a ladder and could be argued to be pointless by definition (all game loot in all games).
2. It's quite the opposite. You can buy something like full Tal Rasha's Wrappings for 2

Ist, which can be earned by collecting and selling

Perfect Gems over a day or two.
3. Your stash is 100% trash that's not worth even

Perfect Gems.

iamergo wrote: 2 years ago

subaridji wrote: 2 years ago

All loot is pointless until ladder starts.

Besides there's a huge entrance requirement for entering the market. Nobody has the runes, required for purchasing any worthy items.

That's why all my stash is always cheap and on sale for

Perfect Gems)

1. Ladders don't last forever. Following your logic, all ladder loot is objectively pointless six weeks into a ladder and could be argued to be pointless by definition (all game loot in all games).
2. It's quite the opposite. You can buy something like full Tal Rasha's Wrappings for 2

Ist, which can be earned by collecting and selling

Perfect Gems over a day or two.
3. Your stash is 100% trash that's not worth even

Perfect Gems.

Don't know what to expect from ladder. We'll see.
Are you serious about 1-2 days? I've seen trades like 40 Perfect ametysts for

Ist. Can you show how to get that amount over a day?
My stash is a 100% miracle for those, who don't wanna waste too much time for desired items. Come back later, maybe there will be something you were looking for!

subaridji wrote: 2 years ago

Are you serious about 1-2 days? I've seen trades like 40 Perfect ametysts for

Ist. Can you show how to get that amount over a day?

If you type in

Perfect Amethyst in the Price Check section, you'll see that people buy 15-18 perfect amethysts for 1

Ist.

Ladder doesn't invalidate current loot. There's plenty of people who couldn't care less about ladder.

But yeah, most low loot has become just about worthless by now, simply because hardly anyone still needs any of it (if they ever did to begin with). As a result, if you're focusing on meph runs or similar, trying to sell every pointless and largely worthless piece of gear he drops, you'll probably be at it for quite a while before you find enough to amount to actual value. If you ever manage to sell any of those pieces at all that is. Judging by your stash, you seem to mainly fall into that category which makes your discontent understandable.

That having been said, trading is still easy enough to get into. Maybe even easier as a "starting buyer" because most of the stuff you would then still need has become so amazingly cheap.

Just focus on currency to get started, rather than praying for one of the very few uniques still worth anything. Gems are very easy and fast to farm just by running council for a while which coincidentally also tends to yield decent runes along the way. Similarly, farming countess instead gets you a decent starting rune balance quite quickly and would probably allow you to get enough for a full set of all but the top-tier gear within just a couple hours. And if you're bored of that, get into

Key farming and start selling unid torches (or even just keys).

Sure, you won't farm enough to trade for a high griphon's or a top-end runeword (eni, Infinity, ..) or the like within a few hours (unless you're just extremely lucky) but that's nothing to complain about..there's a reason those pieces are as expensive as they are. The rarity (and hence pricing) is very much by design and intended.

All very valid points.

This is largely the Pattern weeks prior to a reset.

The established ones have near complete characters or builds and just want perfects or everything. That's their motivation to continue.

Those that started late will benefit from even cheaper mid tier items. But with lesser players, their interest may fall off.