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El,

Sol,

Dol,

Lo. Didn't work. I used it on non-ladder. oh well... I sold it for all It's worth. Anyone know why it may not have worked?

What it a blue item? Did it have a prefix of "jewelers

Archon Plate of whatever"?
Runewords can only be made in grey items (non-magic/rare).

Whero wrote: 3 months ago

El,

Sol,

Dol,

Lo. Didn't work. I used it on non-ladder. oh well... I sold it for all It's worth. Anyone know why it may not have worked?

The likely answer is it was a magic armor with "jeweler's" prefix which has 4 sockets, and those won't work with rune words.

@Whero Use this website next time when creating a runeword!

This didn't work for me either the first time I tried. Used an

Io instead of an

Lo.... I see those judgmental eyes, can't be the only one who fell for it ;0.

Has three possibilities. Mistaken

Lo for

Io, tried to make the runeword in a magic armor or put wrong runes and/or in wrong order.

D2 is such an unforgiving game. I think we've all botched a runeword or two. The magic items are not clearly distinct enough from certain socketed White items with various attributes.

All I can say is, I've been there. We all have. And it sucks. You

Larzuk an item thinking it'll get some sockets and it gets others. You put runes in a blue item and get garbage. Wrong order, wrong rune, slip of the mouse.

I think I'll start a thread on how to mess up in D2.

Imo the game isnt unforgiving, its not that hard to pay attention which runes youre placing or double check the right runeword youre making from all the hundreds of runeword providing websites

Fortitude

Semirotta wrote: 3 months ago

Imo the game isnt unforgiving, its not that hard to pay attention which runes youre placing or double check the right runeword youre making from all the hundreds of runeword providing websites

It is. One slip up and your massive time investment is gone. it is the very definition of unforgiving. Your take here isn't that you think the game isn't unforgiving, it's that you're happy with that. Which is fine, but it's not the same thing. You're basically agreeing with me... do your research, check the hundreds of websites, be careful, double check, make sure... because the game is unforgiving. Which is what I said.

Understanding the difference between this:



and this:



Is somewhat nuanced. Both have an array of blue magical attributes. One will accept runewords and one will not. Again, it is the very definition of unforgiving.

departure wrote: 3 months ago

Semirotta wrote: 3 months ago

Imo the game isnt unforgiving, its not that hard to pay attention which runes youre placing or double check the right runeword youre making from all the hundreds of runeword providing websites

It is. One slip up and your massive time investment is gone. it is the very definition of unforgiving. Your take here isn't that you think the game isn't unforgiving, it's that you're happy with that. Which is fine, but it's not the same thing. You're basically agreeing with me... do your research, check the hundreds of websites, be careful, double check, make sure... because the game is unforgiving. Which is what I said.

Understanding the difference between this:



and this:



Is somewhat nuanced. Both have an array of blue magical attributes. One will accept runewords and one will not. Again, it is the very definition of unforgiving.

Sure, one slip and its a mistake through and through done. That is why you must pay attention and double check everything. This is something personally learned in very early days of playing diablo games. Hence imo its not very unforgiving if youre just paying attention.
I play this game baked pretty much any time I play it yet manage to avoid mistakes xD

Semirotta wrote: 3 months ago

Sure, one slip and its a mistake through and through done.

That is literally what unforgiving means.

Semirotta wrote: 3 months ago

Hence imo its not very unforgiving if youre just paying attention.
I play this game baked pretty much any time I play it yet manage to avoid mistakes xD

"It's not unforgiving if you never make a mistake"

My brain hurts now.

departure wrote: 3 months ago

Understanding the difference between this:
(...)
and this:
(...)
Is somewhat nuanced. Both have an array of blue magical attributes. One will accept runewords and one will not. Again, it is the very definition of unforgiving.

One has grey name, the other one has blue. Also, magic one has a prefix or a suffix (or both), shown both in its name and below, in the stat block. The difference is fundamental.
When you loot the item, its name (on the ground) is the very first thing you see. So it cannot be overlooked.

Remember the time before there was any way to respec your hero?

One click at the wrong skill and you were forced to delete your hero or deal with a non-optimized build.

This game has been unforgiving for a long time and it still is in some parts.

Just be careful and accept that humans make mistakes. In the end, we are talking about virtual stuff that can be replaced.

Trang Oul wrote: 3 months ago

One has grey name, the other one has blue. Also, magic one has a prefix or a suffix (or both), shown both in its name and below, in the stat block. The difference is fundamental.
When you loot the item, its name (on the ground) is the very first thing you see. So it cannot be overlooked.

Yes it can. Especially to someone who hasn't been playing for very long. The difference between the blue text for attributes of the item and the blue text in the name is subtle. You don't make the runeword when you're picking it up. You make the runeword out of items in your stash.

I can't overlook it now, after playing for over 20 years. You can't overlook it. But it most certainly is easy to overlook as you have to know exactly where to look and what to look for. The easiest way to learn to look for this is to screw it up, and I have, and many players have.

Another easy thing to overlook when making runewords is the type of item. Infinity can be made in spears now but not Insight. Some of that stuff gets quite tricky.

@DasNarf

I do remember that, and it was over the top unforgiving. I'm glad they changed that, but also glad they didn't go d3 and just leave it up to whims at any moment. Because I like that this game is unforgiving to a degree. That was a little too much for me though. Hardcore is also too unforgiving for me.

Edit:

Ok, I admit there is a little part of me that wishes that you had to build your character attributes and skills in a way that works all the way from beginning to end. But optimization is also fun.