Forum Participants,
I had made this comment on a Mr. Llama SC video and wanted expand the coverage of the idea.
"Mosaic being rebuilt to Mal- Gul- Sur would change the curve for ease and timing of access, especially when needing two of them. Two Sur's would make you choose between investing in Mosaics or having Ber equivalent value, and not allow hellforge farming to get you this runeword. Sur gives a weapon "Hits Blinds Target" which is a perfect mod for the retina destroying display. Additionally, dialing down the +skills to only +1, returns some balance of tradeoffs between item options that makes the itemization in D2R great. Lastly, a more modest range on the +elemental skill damage to something like 2-7% still gives you a roll range that has a rewarding high roll, but is less offensive when paired with the +skills reduction. Just a long thought worth considering."
Expanding on the idea further but referencing what has already been said, the increased rune cost will hopefully slow down the acquisition in ladder, preventing assassins being so prolific at the top of ladders. The friendly competition between classes is nice. The reduction in skills and skill damage will be necessary with the increased skill cost. It is okay for items to be very powerful, as long as they come at a cost that make them work grinding for, and ideally when they still make you consider the tradeoffs with other gear options. The topic of OP items is often centered around the premise that one something exists all other options are worthless.
The unfortunate thing with MA skills and charges is that without maintaining charges or having to manage the charges builds can feel slow and clunky. This was the main reason to make something like Mosaic in the first place. This leaves the necessary evil to this runeword and something that makes it unique is the chance to consume charges. It seems to be something that should stay as is. If further balancing is needed it may need to be at the skill tree scaling level, or even a skill mechanics level.
Let me know what you think.
Sincerely,
MuttQB
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Forum Participants,
I had made this comment on a Mr. Llama SC video and wanted expand the coverage of the idea.
"Mosaic being rebuilt to Mal- Gul- Sur would change the curve for ease and timing of access, especially when needing two of them. Two Sur's would make you choose between investing in Mosaics or having Ber equivalent value, and not allow hellforge farming to get you this runeword. Sur gives a weapon "Hits Blinds Target" which is a perfect mod for the retina destroying display. Additionally, dialing down the +skills to only +1, returns some balance of tradeoffs between item options that makes the itemization in D2R great. Lastly, a more modest range on the +elemental skill damage to something like 2-7% still gives you a roll range that has a rewarding high roll, but is less offensive when paired with the +skills reduction. Just a long thought worth considering."
Expanding on the idea further but referencing what has already been said, the increased rune cost will hopefully slow down the acquisition in ladder, preventing assassins being so prolific at the top of ladders. The friendly competition between classes is nice. The reduction in skills and skill damage will be necessary with the increased skill cost. It is okay for items to be very powerful, as long as they come at a cost that make them work grinding for, and ideally when they still make you consider the tradeoffs with other gear options. The topic of OP items is often centered around the premise that one something exists all other options are worthless.
The unfortunate thing with MA skills and charges is that without maintaining charges or having to manage the charges builds can feel slow and clunky. This was the main reason to make something like Mosaic in the first place. This leaves the necessary evil to this runeword and something that makes it unique is the chance to consume charges. It seems to be something that should stay as is. If further balancing is needed it may need to be at the skill tree scaling level, or even a skill mechanics level.
Let me know what you think.
Sincerely,
MuttQB
I had made this comment on a Mr. Llama SC video and wanted expand the coverage of the idea.
"Mosaic being rebuilt to Mal- Gul- Sur would change the curve for ease and timing of access, especially when needing two of them. Two Sur's would make you choose between investing in Mosaics or having Ber equivalent value, and not allow hellforge farming to get you this runeword. Sur gives a weapon "Hits Blinds Target" which is a perfect mod for the retina destroying display. Additionally, dialing down the +skills to only +1, returns some balance of tradeoffs between item options that makes the itemization in D2R great. Lastly, a more modest range on the +elemental skill damage to something like 2-7% still gives you a roll range that has a rewarding high roll, but is less offensive when paired with the +skills reduction. Just a long thought worth considering."
Expanding on the idea further but referencing what has already been said, the increased rune cost will hopefully slow down the acquisition in ladder, preventing assassins being so prolific at the top of ladders. The friendly competition between classes is nice. The reduction in skills and skill damage will be necessary with the increased skill cost. It is okay for items to be very powerful, as long as they come at a cost that make them work grinding for, and ideally when they still make you consider the tradeoffs with other gear options. The topic of OP items is often centered around the premise that one something exists all other options are worthless.
The unfortunate thing with MA skills and charges is that without maintaining charges or having to manage the charges builds can feel slow and clunky. This was the main reason to make something like Mosaic in the first place. This leaves the necessary evil to this runeword and something that makes it unique is the chance to consume charges. It seems to be something that should stay as is. If further balancing is needed it may need to be at the skill tree scaling level, or even a skill mechanics level.
Let me know what you think.
Sincerely,
MuttQB
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It sounds reasonable but this one is also in non-ladder. And from enginner perspective of view, it is no to have something different in ladder / nl , not mention how to treat exist Mosaic. (cost adjustment thinking is not work)
They will make it slightly weaker to trap so that people will play trap. Likely, something like 10% chance of not consume Charge. easy implement and balance the strength between trap and ma.
We will see that(nerf) soon in china server.
And it is only china server, I think it is possible only china.
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I was plan to buy one pair, this news come out in time and I decide to watch how nerf goes.
They will make it slightly weaker to trap so that people will play trap. Likely, something like 10% chance of not consume Charge. easy implement and balance the strength between trap and ma.
We will see that(nerf) soon in china server.
And it is only china server, I think it is possible only china.
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I was plan to buy one pair, this news come out in time and I decide to watch how nerf goes.
Favor Perfect Amethyst over Perfect Skull...
These days, I don't need that much Perfect Skull, it is less encourage to pay in Perfect Skull but it will treat slightly better than Perfect Gems.
These days, I don't need that much Perfect Skull, it is less encourage to pay in Perfect Skull but it will treat slightly better than Perfect Gems.
If you change Mosaic to JahJahJah and remove every single stat on it except for the 50% to not lose charges, it will still be the only choice for MA sins and they will remain just as OP.
All a significant rune change would do, realistically, is shift the ladder-win to those who abuse either their streamer fame for farming support or their RMT-trading bank account.
Those who just play normally would stand even less of a chance to compete in the ladder race.
The only real way to ever properly balance Mosaic without rendering it completely useless again as it was on the PTR would be to not balance Mosaic itself but to balance Assassin finishers so the impact of it is still there but not as severe, such as by adding a 2-3-howevermany seconds cooldown before a finisher/ Charge consumption can be triggered again.
All a significant rune change would do, realistically, is shift the ladder-win to those who abuse either their streamer fame for farming support or their RMT-trading bank account.
Those who just play normally would stand even less of a chance to compete in the ladder race.
The only real way to ever properly balance Mosaic without rendering it completely useless again as it was on the PTR would be to not balance Mosaic itself but to balance Assassin finishers so the impact of it is still there but not as severe, such as by adding a 2-3-howevermany seconds cooldown before a finisher/ Charge consumption can be triggered again.
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Maybe another idea? Leave Mosaic to be Mosaic and build just one other runeword for Assassin exploration in this capacity. No nerf required but give just one opportunity to tease out another option. Leave the retina blinders to it and give us one more option even if it's at online status only (might bring some back to play Ladder again...)
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One idea I've been thinking of for a while, is what if the Mosaic effect would only affected at most one charge type, chosen at random if you have multiple - ie, if you Charge up multiple different charges, 2 x Mosaic would only guarantee keeping one of them (say Phoenix Strike) whereas the extra ones are consumed as if you didn't have Mosaic equipped. That would certainly leave Mosaic builds still very strong, but not nearly as OP as now (in practice you wouldn't be able to stack Phoenix Strike + Claws of Thunder + Blades of Ice + Tiger Strike + Cobra Strike at the same time, only one of them). Dragon Talon still means you can spam the one charge type rapidly, but not multiple different elemental effects. You'd be single element, and have no infinite leach.
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My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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