It takes so long to grind that the closest ive gotten was 98 back in the original d2 times.
This has changed substantially with Terror Zones, and also with the addition of Worldstone Shards (especially since they became more common with the latest patch). Sure, it still take a significant amount of time, but nowhere near what it used to be like.
As a comparison,
It takes about 2770p8Baal runs (including Baal himself) to get from 98 to 99 without TZ:s
It takes about 731p1terrorized (TZ 96) Baal runs (including Baal himself) to get from 98 to 99
It takes about 19 complete runs of the entire game (all areas) on p1 to get from 98 to 99 (using Worldstone Shards to terrorize all Acts)
It takes about 66 complete runs of Act 2 (all Act 2 areas) on p1 to get from 98 to 99 (using Worldstone Shards to terrorize Act 2)
This is entirely doable without cheating or abusing bugs. Yes, it takes a lot of time, and yes, it helps tremendously to have multiple accounts (or a friend group to play with) for increased player counts.
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got 98.58 on my fire sorc. a tz Baal run nets ~0.5 p.p. progress (well maybe add Nihlathak and Eldritch & shenk). so lest more disconnects set me back, in <100 runs I'll get there
It takes so long to grind that the closest ive gotten was 98 back in the original d2 times.
This has changed substantially with Terror Zones, and also with the addition of Worldstone Shards (especially since they became more common with the latest patch). Sure, it still take a significant amount of time, but nowhere near what it used to be like.
As a comparison,
It takes about 2770p8Baal runs (including Baal himself) to get from 98 to 99 without TZ:s
It takes about 731p1terrorized (TZ 96) Baal runs (including Baal himself) to get from 98 to 99
It takes about 19 complete runs of the entire game (all areas) on p1 to get from 98 to 99 (using Worldstone Shards to terrorize all Acts)
It takes about 66 complete runs of Act 2 (all Act 2 areas) on p1 to get from 98 to 99 (using Worldstone Shards to terrorize Act 2)
This is entirely doable without cheating or abusing bugs. Yes, it takes a lot of time, and yes, it helps tremendously to have multiple accounts (or a friend group to play with) for increased player counts.
True that. Terrorized zones indeed made it a lot easier and nowadays it isnt such a task to reach it.
Hitting lvl 99 is a weird e-penis stretching move. It takes so long to grind that the closest ive gotten was 98 back in the original d2 times.
That day I chose never to go for 99, one has to have either bug abuse system to get there or just play 20 hours a day grinding and I dont have that in me.
When I see people hitting 99 all I think of is cheaters or bug abusers. Thats about all of them.
I hit lvl 99 on my sorc by farming on 4 accounts at once
if you have a decent PC you can run more instances of diablo and farm stress free, but you also have to get more accounts
This is exactly what is wrong with Diablo, plus the bots.
how is that wrong? playing on multiple accounts at once?
how is that cheating?
keep your opinions to yourself lol, it's a game mechanic, completely legal and available, to play on multiple accounts at once
if you cannot afford it for various reasons it doesn't mean nobody else should do it, sour grapes eeeh?
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oh, does 731 include only the five waves and Baal? because i kill stuff along the way, and it feels closer to a couple hundred runs
Yeah, that's only the waves + Baal, nothing leading up to the throne room. It was a comparison vs public p8 non-TZ Baal runs. Also higher player counts would cut that number significantly (p3 would halve it).
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It takes about 2770p8Baal runs (including Baal himself) to get from 98 to 99 without TZ:s
from 98 to 99, 22 700 min (it takes me 10 min) , 378+ hours, 16- days .... 63 if I play 6h a day
it was my goal but now I'm not sure (currently lvl 92 to 93)
how many from 90 to 99 or 95 to 99? do you have a link or is it your calcs?
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It takes about 2770p8Baal runs (including Baal himself) to get from 98 to 99 without TZ:s
from 98 to 99, 22 700 min (it takes me 10 min) , 378+ hours, 16- days .... 63 if I play 6h a day
it was my goal but now I'm not sure (currently lvl 92 to 93)
how many from 90 to 99 or 95 to 99? do you have a link or is it your calcs?
Baal runs at lvl 90+ are way slower than TZs. With current drop rate of shards, you can terrorize Act 2 and just do elite-sniping in Canyon of the Magi and Tal Rasha's Tombs (and maybe add Arcane Sanctuary to rotation, if you care about the keys and have access to Teleport).
Baal runs at lvl 90+ are way slower than TZs. With current drop rate of shards, you can terrorize Act 2 and just do elite-sniping in Canyon of the Magi and Tal Rasha's Tombs (and maybe add Arcane Sanctuary to rotation, if you care about the keys and have access to Teleport).
read somewhere at 95+ only TZ are better than Baal runs but not sure if its for p1 or p8...
yet I play 8 chars so Baal runs definitely cause I dont have to move everyone
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