Sorc Infinity Base (self wield)

retepnap wrote: 6 hours ago

Crimmy wrote: 16 hours ago

I'm contemplating making one in an

Eth base.

The only consideration is being unable to repair the cyclone charges. I don't really use them to begin with, but maybe I should be.

So I'm just wanting your opinion and maybe Insight is regarding the

Cyclone Armor charges.

I see SW Infinity as a

Nova weapon not a lightning weapon. As such I'm not going to be specifically targeting bosses, ubers, or Uber ancients with

Nova. Against everything else in the game, save souls, I don't need the CA. Sometimes there's a random

Herald that does an ungodly amount of dmg with a spell and in that case I'm usually just dead, maybe CA would help but I'd have to he using it every single time for the random occurrence of it maybe saving me from an instant Death.

I don't do pvp but I also don't imagine wanting to self wield Infinity as a sorc pvp.

Anything I'm potentially missing?

If you never really use the charges anyway, then it becomes more a question of preferences / aesthetics?

For many players, it "evolves" into something aesthetic rather than just "practcial / LoQ" issues.

Some mention that Ethereal looks better - I definitely agree. But if "the looks" does not matter, then go for the ones with lowest req.

And as also mentioned, if you do go for the aesthetics then Ethereal may play a vital "role" in terms of those -10 ATT for either or both STR and DEX req. (some only have STR req - others have both, that you need to use (waste) pts. on).

My personal favorite by far is the

War Scythe - nothing beats that look, seen from my perspective.

And before all the experts starts telling you, that you will need to "waste a few pts. into ..." here is something to consider imo:

1. In this case, using eg.

War Scythe, you may have to spend around 25 pts. depending on your stats on the amulet and/or ring(s). Typically setup would probably be 2 x SOJ - so that leaves out the ring part - and thus leaving it up to the stats on the amulet. On top of that, you can add whatever ATT that is missing on your torch and anni.

Possible "waste" could be 5 pts. (I have 20 STR on my amulet, so that leaves me with wasting 5 pts. into DEX).

If you are using upgraded vipermagi and / or eg.

War Traveler - then you "only" need to waste pts. into DEX (or find an amulet to cover this).

2. Is it worth it? Well, I believe that if you can't spare to waste at least the 5 pts. then your build is not adequate anyway?

If you need to "waste" eg. 30 pts. - then it starts to make a "difference" - all though, if you only or mostly play P1-P3 then I would absolutely claim it does not matter.

Most importantly - do what you like and want - and just enjoy

NB: if you go the Ethereal style - remember to assign your left mouse button to eg. "lightning" attack - that way you will avoid the Ethereal weapon from "hitting" anything and thus be worn down. Remember, that it resets if you eg. use a token or get a reset at the vendor, so you will have to assign again.

varangium wrote: 4 hours ago

I do not believe

Eth reduces dex requirements. So that’s 15 stat points you have to waste for dex, not to mention less flexible build options forcing you to 80 strength (but at least strength is useful for using other items like sandstorm war travs upgraded viper magi)

Mania in an ethereal

Cryptic Sword base

Cryptic Sword requirements are normally 99 str and 109 dex.

varangium wrote: 4 hours ago

I do not believe

Eth reduces dex requirements.

retepnap wrote: 6 hours ago

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NB: if you go the Ethereal style - remember to assign your left mouse button to eg. "lightning" attack - that way you will avoid the Ethereal weapon from "hitting" anything and thus be worn down.

NaglFarfar wrote: 2 hours ago

retepnap wrote: 6 hours ago

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NB: if you go the Ethereal style - remember to assign your left mouse button to eg. "lightning" attack - that way you will avoid the Ethereal weapon from "hitting" anything and thus be worn down.

Correct me if wrong, but isn't it also the case that if you try an attack spell assigned to left click, and you are out of mana, the char will swing a normal attack instead? So there is a small risk of durability loss if this happens. While assigning the action "throw" to left click does so that nothing happens if you hold a non-throwing weapon.


Throw is obviously less useful, still I sometimes see sorcs with

Eth infinities using throw that way. It is up to the player to decide if it is worth it to waste versatility by omitting the left click action this way, obviously.