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Hey Guys,

I just re-read through the crafting guides on reddit as well as on jsp.
For new players or players not so familiar with crafting, please read these topics
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=30598890&f=87
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46086105&f=87
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofdiablo/c ... _in_diablo/

However, it's always assummed that crafting should be done with a fixed char lvl and shopping from vendors.However, some Items can't be bought and a lot of items would be dismissed if selffound or if the calculations don't fit because of unknown theory, leading to a lot of wasted crafting materials.

So I tried to figure out my math and I would really appreciate if some of the highly educated D2 fans out there would back me up or correct my false information.

So, we first take a few prerequisites:
  • We drop our item from Cow Level Hell (Area Lvl 81)
  • We have a dedicated crafting char with a given char lvl, which is to be determined
  • We want to have the maximum of four rolls, therefore Ilvl has to be 71+
Since ilvl = mlvl = alvl for a common cow, ilvl will also be 81.
We can mix in boss/champion drops later on...

The big question is: What char lvl do we need, to create a specific crafted item?
Or: What level range do we need to get a few affixes/suffixes that we want to on our item?

Since 2/20 gloves are always welcome for Ama or Assa, we will focus on these gloves for now.
Also, I'm going to calculate my craft for a blood craft, therefore we will use
Heavy Gloves
(qlvl 7) - rounded 6
Sharkskin Gloves
(qlvl 39) - rounded 38
Vampirebone Gloves
(qlvl 63) rounded 62

With the given formula our char has at least to be lvl61 to get the maximum four rolls:

Code: Select all

Ilvl = int(clvl/2) + int(ilvl/2)
clvl = (Ilvl*2) - int(ilvl)
clvl = (71*2) - 80 (rounded from 81) = 62
However, we want to get at least 2/20 gloves. Affix level for "alacrity" (20 IAS) is 43.
So we need to get affix level 43 on our gloves.
Ilvl is at least 71 for four rolls.

Code: Select all

IF (max{Ilvl,qlvl} < 99 - int(qlvl/2)) THEN 
  (a) alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)
ELSE
  (b) alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99
Translates for our gloves to the following (rounded qlvl)

Code: Select all

Heavy Gloves (71 < 99 - (6/2): true! => (a)
Sharkskin Gloves (71 < 99 - (38/2): true! => (a)
Vampirebone Gloves (71 < 99 - (62/2): false! => (b)
So, for a given Ilvl (71) we get the following affix level: (alvl):

Code: Select all

alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 68
alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 52
alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99 ==> 43
Since we want to reduce the amount of possible affixes/suffixes and therefore raise our chances to get 2/20 gloves, crafting
Vampirebone Gloves
with a lvl62 char would provide the best options.
However, that would mean that we miss some nice +dex or +str rolls.
Giant Suffix(10-15 STR) is alvl Gloves(59)
Precision Suffix(10-15 DEX) is alvl Gloves(56)

Since our ilvl is given (81 from cow level) we can only increase the Ilvl by increasing our char level when crafting or focus on
Heavy Gloves
, which I consider a bad idea.
If we craft at lvl73, our Ilvl gets increased to Ilvl 77.
With the given formula from above we get our results:
Assumption: Formula Ilvl: 71 77 79
Assumption:
Heavy Gloves
Formulaalvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) Ilvl:resulting alvl 7168 7774 7976
Assumption:
Sharkskin Gloves
Formulaalvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) Ilvl:resulting alvl 7152 7758 7960
Assumption:
Vampirebone Gloves
Formulaalvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99 Ilvl:resulting alvl 7143 7755 7959
As we can see, to get decent rolls we should stick to Ilvl79 and avoid the
Heavy Gloves
. These can be used with another (lower) char at around lvl50.
This however would result in Ilvl65, which would mean that we most probably get more 3 rolls than 4 rolls.

CONCLUSION: our character should be clvl77 to get the best results.

Looking forward to your replies!
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Hey Guys,

I just re-read through the crafting guides on reddit as well as on jsp.
For new players or players not so familiar with crafting, please read these topics
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=30598890&f=87
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46086105&f=87
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofdiablo/c ... _in_diablo/

However, it's always assummed that crafting should be done with a fixed char lvl and shopping from vendors.However, some Items can't be bought and a lot of items would be dismissed if selffound or if the calculations don't fit because of unknown theory, leading to a lot of wasted crafting materials.

So I tried to figure out my math and I would really appreciate if some of the highly educated D2 fans out there would back me up or correct my false information.

So, we first take a few prerequisites:
  • We drop our item from Cow Level Hell (Area Lvl 81)
  • We have a dedicated crafting char with a given char lvl, which is to be determined
  • We want to have the maximum of four rolls, therefore Ilvl has to be 71+
Since ilvl = mlvl = alvl for a common cow, ilvl will also be 81.
We can mix in boss/champion drops later on...

The big question is: What char lvl do we need, to create a specific crafted item?
Or: What level range do we need to get a few affixes/suffixes that we want to on our item?

Since 2/20 gloves are always welcome for Ama or Assa, we will focus on these gloves for now.
Also, I'm going to calculate my craft for a blood craft, therefore we will use
Heavy Gloves
(qlvl 7) - rounded 6
Sharkskin Gloves
(qlvl 39) - rounded 38
Vampirebone Gloves
(qlvl 63) rounded 62

With the given formula our char has at least to be lvl61 to get the maximum four rolls:

Code: Select all

Ilvl = int(clvl/2) + int(ilvl/2)
clvl = (Ilvl*2) - int(ilvl)
clvl = (71*2) - 80 (rounded from 81) = 62
However, we want to get at least 2/20 gloves. Affix level for "alacrity" (20 IAS) is 43.
So we need to get affix level 43 on our gloves.
Ilvl is at least 71 for four rolls.

Code: Select all

IF (max{Ilvl,qlvl} < 99 - int(qlvl/2)) THEN 
  (a) alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)
ELSE
  (b) alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99
Translates for our gloves to the following (rounded qlvl)

Code: Select all

Heavy Gloves (71 < 99 - (6/2): true! => (a)
Sharkskin Gloves (71 < 99 - (38/2): true! => (a)
Vampirebone Gloves (71 < 99 - (62/2): false! => (b)
So, for a given Ilvl (71) we get the following affix level: (alvl):

Code: Select all

alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 68
alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 52
alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99 ==> 43
Since we want to reduce the amount of possible affixes/suffixes and therefore raise our chances to get 2/20 gloves, crafting
Vampirebone Gloves
with a lvl62 char would provide the best options.
However, that would mean that we miss some nice +dex or +str rolls.
Giant Suffix(10-15 STR) is alvl Gloves(59)
Precision Suffix(10-15 DEX) is alvl Gloves(56)

Since our ilvl is given (81 from cow level) we can only increase the Ilvl by increasing our char level when crafting or focus on
Heavy Gloves
, which I consider a bad idea.
If we craft at lvl73, our Ilvl gets increased to Ilvl 77.
With the given formula from above we get our results:
Assumption: Formula Ilvl: 71 77 79
Assumption:
Heavy Gloves
Formulaalvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) Ilvl:resulting alvl 7168 7774 7976
Assumption:
Sharkskin Gloves
Formulaalvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) Ilvl:resulting alvl 7152 7758 7960
Assumption:
Vampirebone Gloves
Formulaalvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99 Ilvl:resulting alvl 7143 7755 7959
As we can see, to get decent rolls we should stick to Ilvl79 and avoid the
Heavy Gloves
. These can be used with another (lower) char at around lvl50.
This however would result in Ilvl65, which would mean that we most probably get more 3 rolls than 4 rolls.

CONCLUSION: our character should be clvl77 to get the best results.

Looking forward to your replies!

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