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Crafting from Self-Found Items

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Hey Guys,

I just re-read through the crafting guides on reddit as well as on jsp.
For new players or players not so familiar with crafting, please read these topics
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=30598890&f=87
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46086105&f=87
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofdiablo/c ... _in_diablo/

However, it's always assummed that crafting should be done with a fixed char lvl and shopping from vendors.However, some Items can't be bought and a lot of items would be dismissed if selffound or if the calculations don't fit because of unknown theory, leading to a lot of wasted crafting materials.

So I tried to figure out my math and I would really appreciate if some of the highly educated D2 fans out there would back me up or correct my false information.

So, we first take a few prerequisites:

We drop our item from Cow Level Hell (Area Lvl 81)
We have a dedicated crafting char with a given char lvl, which is to be determined
We want to have the maximum of four rolls, therefore Ilvl has to be 71+

Since ilvl = mlvl = alvl for a common cow, ilvl will also be 81.
We can mix in boss/champion drops later on...

The big question is: What char lvl do we need, to create a specific crafted item?
Or: What level range do we need to get a few affixes/suffixes that we want to on our item?

Since 2/20 gloves are always welcome for Ama or Assa, we will focus on these gloves for now.
Also, I'm going to calculate my craft for a blood craft, therefore we will use

Heavy Gloves (qlvl 7) - rounded 6

Sharkskin Gloves (qlvl 39) - rounded 38

Vampirebone Gloves (qlvl 63) rounded 62

With the given formula our char has at least to be lvl61 to get the maximum four rolls:

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Ilvl = int(clvl/2) + int(ilvl/2)
clvl = (Ilvl*2) - int(ilvl)
clvl = (71*2) - 80 (rounded from 81) = 62

However, we want to get at least 2/20 gloves. Affix level for "alacrity" (20 IAS) is 43.
So we need to get affix level 43 on our gloves.
Ilvl is at least 71 for four rolls.

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IF (max{Ilvl,qlvl} < 99 - int(qlvl/2)) THEN 
  (a) alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)
ELSE
  (b) alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99

Translates for our gloves to the following (rounded qlvl)

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Heavy Gloves (71 < 99 - (6/2): true! => (a)
Sharkskin Gloves (71 < 99 - (38/2): true! => (a)
Vampirebone Gloves (71 < 99 - (62/2): false! => (b)

So, for a given Ilvl (71) we get the following affix level: (alvl):

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alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 68
alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 52
alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99 ==> 43

Since we want to reduce the amount of possible affixes/suffixes and therefore raise our chances to get 2/20 gloves, crafting

Vampirebone Gloves with a lvl62 char would provide the best options.
However, that would mean that we miss some nice +dex or +str rolls.
Giant Suffix(10-15 STR) is alvl Gloves(59)
Precision Suffix(10-15 DEX) is alvl Gloves(56)

Since our ilvl is given (81 from cow level) we can only increase the Ilvl by increasing our char level when crafting or focus on

Heavy Gloves, which I consider a bad idea.
If we craft at lvl73, our Ilvl gets increased to Ilvl 77.
With the given formula from above we get our results:

Assumption:	Formula	Ilvl:	71	77	79
Heavy Gloves	alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)	resulting alvl	68	74	76
Sharkskin Gloves	alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)	resulting alvl	52	58	60
Vampirebone Gloves	alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99	resulting alvl	43	55	59

As we can see, to get decent rolls we should stick to Ilvl79 and avoid the

Heavy Gloves. These can be used with another (lower) char at around lvl50.
This however would result in Ilvl65, which would mean that we most probably get more 3 rolls than 4 rolls.

CONCLUSION: our character should be clvl77 to get the best results.

Looking forward to your replies!

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We drop our item from Cow Level Hell (Area Lvl 81)
We have a dedicated crafting char with a given char lvl, which is to be determined
We want to have the maximum of four rolls, therefore Ilvl has to be 71+

Heavy Gloves (qlvl 7) - rounded 6

Sharkskin Gloves (qlvl 39) - rounded 38

Vampirebone Gloves (qlvl 63) rounded 62

With the given formula our char has at least to be lvl61 to get the maximum four rolls:

Code: Select all

Ilvl = int(clvl/2) + int(ilvl/2)
clvl = (Ilvl*2) - int(ilvl)
clvl = (71*2) - 80 (rounded from 81) = 62

However, we want to get at least 2/20 gloves. Affix level for "alacrity" (20 IAS) is 43.
So we need to get affix level 43 on our gloves.
Ilvl is at least 71 for four rolls.

Code: Select all

IF (max{Ilvl,qlvl} < 99 - int(qlvl/2)) THEN 
  (a) alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)
ELSE
  (b) alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99

Translates for our gloves to the following (rounded qlvl)

Code: Select all

Heavy Gloves (71 < 99 - (6/2): true! => (a)
Sharkskin Gloves (71 < 99 - (38/2): true! => (a)
Vampirebone Gloves (71 < 99 - (62/2): false! => (b)

So, for a given Ilvl (71) we get the following affix level: (alvl):

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alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 68
alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2) ==> 52
alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99 ==> 43

Since we want to reduce the amount of possible affixes/suffixes and therefore raise our chances to get 2/20 gloves, crafting

Heavy Gloves, which I consider a bad idea.
If we craft at lvl73, our Ilvl gets increased to Ilvl 77.
With the given formula from above we get our results:

Assumption:	Formula	Ilvl:	71	77	79
Heavy Gloves	alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)	resulting alvl	68	74	76
Sharkskin Gloves	alvl = max{Ilvl,qlvl} - int(qlvl/2)	resulting alvl	52	58	60
Vampirebone Gloves	alvl = 2*max{Ilvl,qlvl} - 99	resulting alvl	43	55	59

As we can see, to get decent rolls we should stick to Ilvl79 and avoid the

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