I got a Ber . So now what?

Semirotta wrote: 23 hours ago

Last season had Warlock with no Enigma, killing dclones and what ever came at it just fine. Teleporting is always a nice addition, but it sure isn't needed on Warlock as it has the warping

Dagger attack.

Seconding this. The last upgrade my warlock from last ladder got was an Enigma and it was a minor one. If it was op's only char, Enigma would be a bigger deal, but they have a sorc already. The only thing my current (summoner) warlock without Enigma misses out on is like,

Mephisto and

Key runs, which i can just switch to my sorc for

Semirotta wrote: 23 hours ago

All of Warlock builds require Enigma? absolutely not true.

Require in the sense of required to be able to play? Obviously not. That's plainly wrong, and nobody would ever interpret anything that way. Required to fill out an endgame build with top tier gear? Yes. 100%

If you're going to build a warlock for endgame, you need an engima at some point. It's something you have to make.

departure wrote: 20 hours ago

Required to fill out an endgame build with top tier gear? Yes. 100%

Remember this is op's first

Ber, so i don't think they are at the stage of "filling out an endgame build"

We're also talking about a

Ber on ladder, where it's worth ~20-23

Ist atm. So even more value to breaking it down compared to non-ladder where it's ~10

Ist

I think op will see a lot more benefit with 20

Ist worth of upgrades to their chars today, vs waiting for a

Jah to make Enigma (in a time-limited ladder season no less)

kerph wrote: 20 hours ago

Remember this is op's first

Ber, so i don't think they are at the stage of "filling out an endgame build"

We're also talking about a

Ber on ladder, where it's worth ~20-23

Ist atm. So even more value to breaking it down compared to non-ladder where it's ~10

Ist

I think op will see a lot more benefit with 20

Ist worth of upgrades to their chars today, vs waiting for a

Jah to make Enigma (in a time-limited ladder season no less)

I disagree. From my perspective this would go toward an Infinity (self or merc) or Enigma. Just based on my personal play style, this

Ber would go to a merc Infinity which I would self-wield with an over-spec'd sorc until I got enough runes to switch to a

Brandistock.

But that's me. If one wanted to go warlock, I'd suggest engima as fast as possible.

Don't go for Infinity, go for Enigma, only your Sorc and Javazon would profit from an Infinity, not your Barb and Pala and most Lock builds don't need it either.

Use your sorc to farm keys and statues, sell them for Ists or in bulk for

Lo/

Jah. Should not take too long, maybe 15-25 hours of play time.

Enigma will be of great use to all your builds, even if some other strong items are missing.

Enigma. Infinity is great but teleporting is better.

I would say Enigma as well. Game changing for every character except sorc.

Another option is you could buy a low rolled Infinity for

Ber or perhaps as low as

Sur or

Lo.

And you can buy an Enigma in a less desired base or just from someone who wants to dump quickly for

Jah

Lo.

Basically you could potentially stretch your

Jah and

Ber to get an Enigma and an Infinity. Would need to split the

Jah/

Ber into 2

Lo’s, then do

Lo or

Sur for the low Infinity and

Jah/

Ber

Lo for the Infinity. Might need to turn the

Lo into a

Sur for the low Infinity by swapping pgems for an

Ist and then

Lo+

Ist into a

Sur

departure wrote: 20 hours ago

Semirotta wrote: 23 hours ago

All of Warlock builds require Enigma? absolutely not true.

Require in the sense of required to be able to play? Obviously not. That's plainly wrong, and nobody would ever interpret anything that way. Required to fill out an endgame build with top tier gear? Yes. 100%

If you're going to build a warlock for endgame, you need an engima at some point. It's something you have to make.

That applies to pretty much every build out there other than sorcs. Enigma is pretty perfect armor for anything.
But warlock definitely is one of those classes which works just fine without simply because the class has its own teleportation. If a class has good movement abilities; Enigma can become quite pointless. Though Enigma is much faster in its teleportation compared to warlocks

Dagger throwing.

varangium wrote: 5 hours ago

... you could buy a low rolled Infinity for

Ber or perhaps as low as

Sur or

Lo.

And you can buy an Enigma in a less desired base or just from someone who wants to dump quickly for

Jah

Lo.

Basically you could potentially stretch your

Jah and

Ber to get an Enigma and an Infinity. Would need to split the

Jah/

Ber into 2

Lo’s, then do

Lo or

Sur for the low Infinity and

Jah/

Ber

Lo for the Infinity. Might need to turn the

Lo into a

Sur for the low Infinity by swapping pgems for an

Ist and then

Lo+

Ist into a

Sur

Just wanted to add, prices on ladder look more like:

Jah/

Ber = 3

Lo
Infinity, even 45%

Scythe = At least 1

Jah/

Ber

Sur =

Lo+

Vex to

Lo+

Ohm

A

Jah+

Ber on ladder is worth over 4

Jah on non-ladder if we measure it against

Ist. So to my non-ladder lovelies, just know when you say wait for a

Jah, trading for one might take twice as long than what you're used to on non-ladder, in a ladder season that will likely end in 2 months. Things also (generally) sell for less here, and even trading in

Perfect Gems is ~55-60 to

Ist

I don't know, to me it's not worth it especially when u have a teleporting char already^^ but i know i'm in the minority here