Seconding this. The last upgrade my warlock from last ladder got was an Enigma and it was a minor one. If it was op's only char, Enigma would be a bigger deal, but they have a sorc already. The only thing my current (summoner) warlock without Enigma misses out on is like, Mephisto and Key runs, which i can just switch to my sorc for
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Require in the sense of required to be able to play? Obviously not. That's plainly wrong, and nobody would ever interpret anything that way. Required to fill out an endgame build with top tier gear? Yes. 100%
If you're going to build a warlock for endgame, you need an engima at some point. It's something you have to make.
Remember this is op's first Ber, so i don't think they are at the stage of "filling out an endgame build"
We're also talking about a Ber on ladder, where it's worth ~20-23 Ist atm. So even more value to breaking it down compared to non-ladder where it's ~10 Ist
I think op will see a lot more benefit with 20 Ist worth of upgrades to their chars today, vs waiting for a Jah to make Enigma (in a time-limited ladder season no less)
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I disagree. From my perspective this would go toward an Infinity (self or merc) or Enigma. Just based on my personal play style, this Ber would go to a merc Infinity which I would self-wield with an over-spec'd sorc until I got enough runes to switch to a Brandistock.kerph wrote: 1 month agoRemember this is op's first Ber, so i don't think they are at the stage of "filling out an endgame build"
We're also talking about a Ber on ladder, where it's worth ~20-23 Ist atm. So even more value to breaking it down compared to non-ladder where it's ~10 Ist
I think op will see a lot more benefit with 20 Ist worth of upgrades to their chars today, vs waiting for a Jah to make Enigma (in a time-limited ladder season no less)
But that's me. If one wanted to go warlock, I'd suggest engima as fast as possible.
Don't go for Infinity, go for Enigma, only your Sorc and Javazon would profit from an Infinity, not your Barb and Pala and most Lock builds don't need it either.
Use your sorc to farm keys and statues, sell them for Ists or in bulk for Lo/ Jah. Should not take too long, maybe 15-25 hours of play time.
Enigma will be of great use to all your builds, even if some other strong items are missing.
Use your sorc to farm keys and statues, sell them for Ists or in bulk for Lo/ Jah. Should not take too long, maybe 15-25 hours of play time.
Enigma will be of great use to all your builds, even if some other strong items are missing.
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I would say Enigma as well. Game changing for every character except sorc.
Another option is you could buy a low rolled Infinity for Ber or perhaps as low as Sur or Lo.
And you can buy an Enigma in a less desired base or just from someone who wants to dump quickly for Jah Lo.
Basically you could potentially stretch your Jah and Ber to get an Enigma and an Infinity. Would need to split the Jah/ Ber into 2 Lo’s, then do Lo or Sur for the low Infinity and Jah/ Ber Lo for the Infinity. Might need to turn the Lo into a Sur for the low Infinity by swapping pgems for an Ist and then Lo+ Ist into a Sur
Another option is you could buy a low rolled Infinity for Ber or perhaps as low as Sur or Lo.
And you can buy an Enigma in a less desired base or just from someone who wants to dump quickly for Jah Lo.
Basically you could potentially stretch your Jah and Ber to get an Enigma and an Infinity. Would need to split the Jah/ Ber into 2 Lo’s, then do Lo or Sur for the low Infinity and Jah/ Ber Lo for the Infinity. Might need to turn the Lo into a Sur for the low Infinity by swapping pgems for an Ist and then Lo+ Ist into a Sur
That applies to pretty much every build out there other than sorcs. Enigma is pretty perfect armor for anything.departure wrote: 1 month agoRequire in the sense of required to be able to play? Obviously not. That's plainly wrong, and nobody would ever interpret anything that way. Required to fill out an endgame build with top tier gear? Yes. 100%
If you're going to build a warlock for endgame, you need an engima at some point. It's something you have to make.
But warlock definitely is one of those classes which works just fine without simply because the class has its own teleportation. If a class has good movement abilities; Enigma can become quite pointless. Though Enigma is much faster in its teleportation compared to warlocks Dagger throwing.
Just wanted to add, prices on ladder look more like:varangium wrote: 1 month ago... you could buy a low rolled Infinity for Ber or perhaps as low as Sur or Lo.
And you can buy an Enigma in a less desired base or just from someone who wants to dump quickly for Jah Lo.
Basically you could potentially stretch your Jah and Ber to get an Enigma and an Infinity. Would need to split the Jah/ Ber into 2 Lo’s, then do Lo or Sur for the low Infinity and Jah/ Ber Lo for the Infinity. Might need to turn the Lo into a Sur for the low Infinity by swapping pgems for an Ist and then Lo+ Ist into a Sur
Jah/ Ber = 3 Lo
Infinity, even 45% Scythe = At least 1 Jah/ Ber
Sur = Lo+ Vex to Lo+ Ohm
A Jah+ Ber on ladder is worth over 4 Jah on non-ladder if we measure it against Ist. So to my non-ladder lovelies, just know when you say wait for a Jah, trading for one might take twice as long than what you're used to on non-ladder, in a ladder season that will likely end in 2 months. Things also (generally) sell for less here, and even trading in Perfect Gems is ~55-60 to Ist
I don't know, to me it's not worth it especially when u have a teleporting char already^^ but i know i'm in the minority here
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Sorry, I just looked at the end of the thread and the title and missed that this was ladder.
Yeah not sure what to do with just Ber. I don't consider CoH to be nearly as game changing as Enigma or Infinity.
Yeah not sure what to do with just Ber. I don't consider CoH to be nearly as game changing as Enigma or Infinity.
kerph wrote: 1 month agoJust wanted to add, prices on ladder look more like:varangium wrote: 1 month ago... you could buy a low rolled Infinity for Ber or perhaps as low as Sur or Lo.
And you can buy an Enigma in a less desired base or just from someone who wants to dump quickly for Jah Lo.
Basically you could potentially stretch your Jah and Ber to get an Enigma and an Infinity. Would need to split the Jah/ Ber into 2 Lo’s, then do Lo or Sur for the low Infinity and Jah/ Ber Lo for the Infinity. Might need to turn the Lo into a Sur for the low Infinity by swapping pgems for an Ist and then Lo+ Ist into a Sur
Jah/ Ber = 3 Lo
Infinity, even 45% Scythe = At least 1 Jah/ Ber
Sur = Lo+ Vex to Lo+ Ohm
A Jah+ Ber on ladder is worth over 4 Jah on non-ladder if we measure it against Ist. So to my non-ladder lovelies, just know when you say wait for a Jah, trading for one might take twice as long than what you're used to on non-ladder, in a ladder season that will likely end in 2 months. Things also (generally) sell for less here, and even trading in Perfect Gems is ~55-60 to Ist
I don't know, to me it's not worth it especially when u have a teleporting char already^^ but i know i'm in the minority here
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