But then again, what is the point to even add an extra aura as nobody uses "normal" demons hire hirelings without auras. Every useful demon to bind hireling HAS an aura. So basically there is absolutely no reason to level the binding skill high enough to gain that extra aura hire any other hireling than a Desert Mercenary (imo).
But then again, what is the point to even add an extra aura as nobody uses "normal" demons without auras. Every useful demon to bind HAS an aura. So basically there is absolutely no reason to level the binding skill high enough to gain that extra aura (imo).
At least theoretically there is a reason: so you can bind a demon without an aura, and still get it from Bind Demon, so you are not limited to Aura Enchanted demons.
But in practice Hephasto is a tank and hits like a truck, so the innate aura is just the icing on the cake. Had he not had one, he'd likely still be picked as the demon to bind.
Hint: Terrorized Baracks also has a demon in the same style of the same lvl with gets a random aura and you can get cursed by picking a terrorized game with the cursed effect (and he can also hava fire lightening etc enchanted on top)
Do you think its better to have the Lower Resist aura on Hephasto with Cursed OR have fanatism aura without Cursed?
Which do YOU think is better?
I havent had any luck finding cursed hephasto and now finally found one with the wrong aura. Should I keep looking for fanatism without cursed? I will not find one with both. This has been proven.
Currently my hephasto got Fire aura + Resist lowering aura (thanks to high enough lvl binding skill) so that combo does work together nicely. And it can remove Physical immunities.
Hephasto without curse cant take away physical immunities and the sigil alone wont do it always either.
Just trying to weight some options here, not sure if its worth to waste time trying to find cursed + fana as it seems to be so darn rare. Got it once or twice before and never seen it again since.
For warlocks primarily utilizing the Eldritch skill tree, Fanaticism+Cursed (Fanacursed) is always what u want.
For a fire warlock (using Apocalypse and all its synergies), Conviction Aura is probably better. I haven't played Fire Warlock much so someone has more experience feel free to correct me in that area. I would tend to think Conviction + Lightning Enchanted would be ideal for this use case scenario.
It's also worth ensuring you have 10 soft points into Bind Demon because this will grant Extra Strong + Extra Fast on top of existing mods. Every 5 points into Bind Demon grants an additional affix, but after Extra Strong+Extra Fast they sort of become redundant I find.
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Thats hilarious. How can similar question give such a different answers. Darn I hate this AI timeline we live in right now :'D
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Because the "AI" of today is essentially nothing but the targeted regurgitation of random typically completely unfiltered information, based on some likeliest "interpretation of" = correlation to your question.
Since the random information fed into it is basically just the totality of random misinformation and bullshit floating about the interwebs, "AI" is just as dumb, ignorant and misinformed as the social-media-backed, believing-everything-any-random-streamer-tells-them masses. And yeah, I'm looking at you people who suddenly paid out the nose for ethereal thunder mauls after RotW hit!
If you phrase the same question somewhat differently, correlation/likelihood shifts and it steers you from one set of bullshit misinformation to a different set of often just other bullshit misinformation.
Every so often, if you're lucky, it actually randomly ends up on the little bit of information that isn't complete BS and leaves it at that.
Simply put, that "AI" doesn't actually know anything. It merely picks and chooses which completely random and unconfirmed claims it'll spew back at you. And people really need to stop relying on it.
Given, there are some (precious few) systems that actually do reliably offer correct and valuable information but that's solely because those running them took the time and effort to actually check, confirm and filter the information going into the system. For your random general "trust me bro!" service, that is not the case. And realistically, it never will be, as anything aimed to be a general solution for the masses inherently requires too much information going in on too many topics to ever actually be able to throw enough manpower at it to properly fact check everything. The only way you'd ever get a reliable but truly general offering is if people stopped posting incorrect bullshit on the internet and cleaned up all the past bullshit. And we all know that'll never happen (be that intentional or unintentional). So all you'll ever get is a more comfortable but ultimately significantly worse (due to "one single result, just trust me bro!") alternative to traditional search engines.
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But then again, what is the point to even add an extra aura as nobody uses "normal" demons without auras. Every useful demon to bind HAS an aura. So basically there is absolutely no reason to level the binding skill high enough to gain that extra aura (imo).
Dark lancers would like to have a word.
And even for others, it still adds a decent chunk of damage.
I know it can seem like a hassle rerolling the game to get the desired affix combo u want, but realistically it's fuck all compared to other farming scenarios in the game. I usually wait until River of Flame is terrorized and I've never had trouble getting my desired affix combo within the 30min Terror window.
I'm primarily on offline SP so I also switch difficulty back and forth to reroll a good map.
HCL nintendo switch 6276-3649-1595 Bnet: CoralViper#114373
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Thats hilarious. How can similar question give such a different answers. Darn I hate this AI timeline we live in right now :'D
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Because the "AI" of today is essentially nothing but the targeted regurgitation of random typically completely unfiltered information, based on some likeliest "interpretation of" = correlation to your question.
Since the random information fed into it is basically just the totality of random misinformation and bullshit floating about the interwebs, "AI" is just as dumb, ignorant and misinformed as the social-media-backed, believing-everything-any-random-streamer-tells-them masses. And yeah, I'm looking at you people who suddenly paid out the nose for ethereal thunder mauls after RotW hit!
If you phrase the same question somewhat differently, correlation/likelihood shifts and it steers you from one set of bullshit misinformation to a different set of often just other bullshit misinformation.
Every so often, if you're lucky, it actually randomly ends up on the little bit of information that isn't complete BS and leaves it at that.
Simply put, that "AI" doesn't actually know anything. It merely picks and chooses which completely random and unconfirmed claims it'll spew back at you. And people really need to stop relying on it.
Given, there are some (precious few) systems that actually do reliably offer correct and valuable information but that's solely because those running them took the time and effort to actually check, confirm and filter the information going into the system. For your random general "trust me bro!" service, that is not the case. And realistically, it never will be, as anything aimed to be a general solution for the masses inherently requires too much information going in on too many topics to ever actually be able to throw enough manpower at it to properly fact check everything. The only way you'd ever get a reliable but truly general offering is if people stopped posting incorrect bullshit on the internet and cleaned up all the past bullshit. And we all know that'll never happen. So all you'll ever get is a more comfortable but ultimately significantly worse (due to "one single result, just trust me bro!") alternative to traditional search engines.
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But then again, what is the point to even add an extra aura as nobody uses "normal" demons without auras. Every useful demon to bind HAS an aura. So basically there is absolutely no reason to level the binding skill high enough to gain that extra aura (imo).
Dark lancers would like to have a word.
And even for others, it still adds a decent chunk of damage.
Agreed on the AI bit 100%. A human with alot of firsthand experience in the given field is always best source of information if u ask me.
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I know it can seem like a hassle rerolling the game to get the desired affix combo u want, but realistically it's fuck all compared to other farming scenarios in the game. I usually wait until River of Flame is terrorized and I've never had trouble getting my desired affix combo within the 30min Terror window.
I'm primarily on offline SP so I also switch difficulty back and forth to reroll a good map.
I actually put off my lock's last respec because I didn't want to re-farm his Heph...and then coincidentally got the same perfect affixes in the same game I finally decided to respec in.
(Sadly, no TZ at the time so still need to re-farm for the higher lvl version at some point..but mweh)
Edit:
A quick TZ rotation later..got him on the 2nd attempt. Lucky.
For warlocks primarily utilizing the Eldritch skill tree, Fanaticism+Cursed (Fanacursed) is always what u want.
For a fire warlock (using Apocalypse and all its synergies), Conviction Aura is probably better. I haven't played Fire Warlock much so someone has more experience feel free to correct me in that area.
I think this is the best answer.
I play Fire Warlock and I don't have a Sunder yet. Conviction is a must and Curse is a bonus that I look for as Heph and Emilio deal a lot better with cursed fire immune enemies.
Last time I died and lost my good "aura geared" Heph. After that I bound the first one I got (no Conviction) and decided to play that active WSK TZ zone. A good surprise was Lister that came with that exact needed auras. Got him and didn't look for another Heph (until I die again).
Being terrorized and probably more tankier and with a lot more health pool, his health bar is not moving at all regardless of which monsters deals with, on P8. Heph is also very tanky but his life goes slightly lower on difficult enemies. Not to be in any danger but visible. Lister's isn't moving at all.
Something a little bit annoying is his knockback hits that moves enemies away from sigils.
For warlocks primarily utilizing the Eldritch skill tree, Fanaticism+Cursed (Fanacursed) is always what u want.
For a fire warlock (using Apocalypse and all its synergies), Conviction Aura is probably better. I haven't played Fire Warlock much so someone has more experience feel free to correct me in that area.
I think this is the best answer.
I play Fire Warlock and I don't have a Sunder yet. Conviction is a must and Curse is a bonus that I look for as Heph and Emilio deal a lot better with cursed fire immune enemies.
Last time I died and lost my good "aura geared" Heph. After that I bound the first one I got (no Conviction) and decided to play that active WSK TZ zone. A good surprise was Lister that came with that exact needed auras. Got him and didn't look for another Heph (until I die again).
Being terrorized and probably more tankier and with a lot more health pool, his health bar is not moving at all regardless of which monsters deals with, on P8. Heph is also very tanky but his life goes slightly lower on difficult enemies. Not to be in any danger but visible. Lister's isn't moving at all.
Something a little bit annoying is his knockback hits that moves enemies away from sigils.
Just play HC so that way u don't die, lol
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Do you think its better to have the Lower Resist aura on Hephasto with Cursed OR have fanatism aura without Cursed?
Which do YOU think is better?
I havent had any luck finding cursed hephasto and now finally found one with the wrong aura. Should I keep looking for fanatism without cursed? I will not find one with both. This has been proven.
Currently my hephasto got Fire aura + Resist lowering aura (thanks to high enough lvl binding skill) so that combo does work together nicely. And it can remove Physical immunities.
Hephasto without curse cant take away physical immunities and the sigil alone wont do it always either.
Just trying to weight some options here, not sure if its worth to waste time trying to find cursed + fana as it seems to be so darn rare. Got it once or twice before and never seen it again since.
For warlocks primarily utilizing the Eldritch skill tree, Fanaticism+Cursed (Fanacursed) is always what u want.
For a fire warlock (using Apocalypse and all its synergies), Conviction Aura is probably better. I haven't played Fire Warlock much so someone has more experience feel free to correct me in that area. I would tend to think Conviction + Lightning Enchanted would be ideal for this use case scenario.
It's also worth ensuring you have 10 soft points into Bind Demon because this will grant Extra Strong + Extra Fast on top of existing mods. Every 5 points into Bind Demon grants an additional affix, but after Extra Strong+Extra Fast they sort of become redundant I find.
I have found Fana + Curse TWICE and not in many weeks anymore. Im done trying to find that. My aim is just to get cursed here on out as the fana does so little. It increases my dmg like 4-8k at best and it doesnt really make a dent in it. Attack speed wont affect the Echoing Strike anyway.
I have 29 lvl Bind Demon atm. One more skiller and its 30 :'D
But I plan to reset my character once ive gotten Enigma and / or torch more.. Most likely Enigma as its cheaper. I have too many points put into Bind Demon.
Tbf youre absolutely right. I was thinking of next ladder to start with pure summon warlock as I love summoners but necromancer was ruined for me as the summons unsummon itself if they are too far from the necromancer so without Teleport its pain in the arse as you have to constantly re-summon things as they are left behind.
Now my hephasto again has fire aura under its Conviction aura and it does deal dmg. It was for a longer period of time as it did not do it; but now for some reason it does that again. Again trash dies around me and hephasto without even touching them. So something is very wonky about this aura system :'D
Now my hephasto again has fire aura under its Conviction aura and it does deal dmg. It was for a longer period of time as it did not do it; but now for some reason it does that again. Again trash dies around me and hephasto without even touching them. So something is very wonky about this aura system :'D
Could you make a scrreenshot in town?
and show us exactly what mods he has?
Now my hephasto again has fire aura under its Conviction aura and it does deal dmg. It was for a longer period of time as it did not do it; but now for some reason it does that again. Again trash dies around me and hephasto without even touching them. So something is very wonky about this aura system :'D
Could you make a scrreenshot in town?
and show us exactly what mods he has?
Thats the problem, it never shows the fire aura / electric aura beneath there. But what else would it be? what else could it be to kill the trash around me? I have no aura on the warlock. The only two auras on merc are Might (default aura) and Insight gives the mana aura. Neither of these deal dmg to enemies around us.
The only two things left are Hephasto with Conviction (bound with 29 lvl skill) and Defiler which does no dmg at all nor has any auras.
But funny thing was that once I got this hephasto; it didnt kill anything around it until now. The previous one did kill trash around it without touching them from the beginning. So this either is very buggy or I just dont understand what is going on :'D
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I finally figured out how to upload larger images. Just save them first into .jpeg instead of trying to upload what I screenshotted with the crop tool.
Do you think its better to have the Lower Resist aura on Hephasto with Cursed OR have fanatism aura without Cursed?
Which do YOU think is better?
I havent had any luck finding cursed hephasto and now finally found one with the wrong aura. Should I keep looking for fanatism without cursed? I will not find one with both. This has been proven.
Currently my hephasto got Fire aura + Resist lowering aura (thanks to high enough lvl binding skill) so that combo does work together nicely. And it can remove Physical immunities.
Hephasto without curse cant take away physical immunities and the sigil alone wont do it always either.
Just trying to weight some options here, not sure if its worth to waste time trying to find cursed + fana as it seems to be so darn rare. Got it once or twice before and never seen it again since.
For warlocks primarily utilizing the Eldritch skill tree, Fanaticism+Cursed (Fanacursed) is always what u want.
For a fire warlock (using Apocalypse and all its synergies), Conviction Aura is probably better. I haven't played Fire Warlock much so someone has more experience feel free to correct me in that area. I would tend to think Conviction + Lightning Enchanted would be ideal for this use case scenario.
It's also worth ensuring you have 10 soft points into Bind Demon because this will grant Extra Strong + Extra Fast on top of existing mods. Every 5 points into Bind Demon grants an additional affix, but after Extra Strong+Extra Fast they sort of become redundant I find.
I have found Fana + Curse TWICE and not in many weeks anymore. Im done trying to find that. My aim is just to get cursed here on out as the fana does so little. It increases my dmg like 4-8k at best and it doesnt really make a dent in it. Attack speed wont affect the Echoing Strike anyway.
I have 29 lvl Bind Demon atm. One more skiller and its 30 :'D
But I plan to reset my character once ive gotten Enigma and / or torch more.. Most likely Enigma as its cheaper. I have too many points put into Bind Demon.
Idk compared to farming Nihlathak for keys it doesnt seem too bad to me.
I got super lucky recently and found a P8 Hell TZ Heph with Fanacursed and Stone skin (and hence immune to physical). Hard to ask for better than that.
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I dont farm nithalak. I just like to farm travi, Chaos Sanctuary, shenk and Baal. My favorites and these I run a lot. Plus terrorized zones ofc if they are in nice places. Works nicely for what I do
Now my hephasto again has fire aura under its Conviction aura and it does deal dmg. It was for a longer period of time as it did not do it; but now for some reason it does that again. Again trash dies around me and hephasto without even touching them. So something is very wonky about this aura system :'D
You happen to have a video or something?
What stands out to me here is that unless I'm mistaken, the now 2 times you've been seeing this, he had a Conviction aura.
Coincidentally, he used to be hard-coded to Conviction, before getting changed to pull from the normal aura pool.
Kinda guessing here but there's at least a chance that blizz f'd up that aura change and made Conviction not properly count as pulling from the aura pool as it used to be treated differently. That could mean that if he rolls Conviction, he could still roll another aura at the same time, be that inherently on spawn or from binding.
It'd also explain why I've never seen it as I've never had a reason to snag a Conviction Heph.
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The only two things left are Hephasto with Conviction (bound with 29 lvl skill) and Defiler which does no dmg at all nor has any auras.
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Were either Heph, you or your merc attacking anything?
If you had a defiler up, he would've linked mobs together which would then also result in mobs dying that aren't actively being attacked, so long as they're linked to the attack target. You sure that wasn't it?
Now my hephasto again has fire aura under its Conviction aura and it does deal dmg. It was for a longer period of time as it did not do it; but now for some reason it does that again. Again trash dies around me and hephasto without even touching them. So something is very wonky about this aura system :'D
You happen to have a video or something?
What stands out to me here is that unless I'm mistaken, the now 2 times you've been seeing this, he had a Conviction aura.
Coincidentally, he used to be hard-coded to Conviction, before getting changed to pull from the normal aura pool.
Kinda guessing here but there's at least a chance that blizz f'd up that aura change and made Conviction not properly count as pulling from the aura pool as it used to be treated differently. That could mean that if he rolls Conviction, he could still roll another aura at the same time, be that inherently on spawn or from binding.
It'd also explain why I've never seen it as I've never had a reason to snag a Conviction Heph.
Might have to do some testing on that...
I like to believe they just messed something up. There is absolutely no way the trash would be just dying on their own otherwise. Game thinks hephisto not having the extra aura but infact it really (from time to time) actually is there.
I dont have anything installed to get video recording of it at the moment though. I'll keep testing this more and try to pay more attention to the surrounding enemies as I go and if I see the enemies blowing up further from hephasto or any followers, ill try to use the windows crop tool to record. It has some kind of recording button but ive not used that so no idea if that even works.
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The only two things left are Hephasto with Conviction (bound with 29 lvl skill) and Defiler which does no dmg at all nor has any auras.
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Were either Heph, you or your merc attacking anything?
If you had a defiler up, he would've linked mobs together which would then also result in mobs dying that aren't actively being attacked, so long as they're linked to the attack target. You sure that wasn't it?
Well the hephasto and merc are constantly attacking things, but the trash that dies is usually at the other side of the screen where they 100% cannot be hitting? unless they have made hephastos basic attack so massive it actually hits in so large area? that wouldnt make sense and it would be more visible / more constant right?
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Now its not doing it again after I had swapped from eu to asia to eu again to continue farming. It did it before the dclone came out. This is what I mean, sometimes its working and sometimes its not. This is mindf-cking me hard.
Defiler in practice gives everybody in your party an AoE damage
My guess is that what you think is a hidden pulse aura is just the Defiler effect
Defiler distribute the damage between the "linked" monster so you Hephasto (or your Merc or You) hit 1 monster and 4 others are killed too by the link damage.
just after that, Defiler start to link more monster, and maybe on the next kill 4 more are killed by the link damage.
Is not uncommon for me my Bound Demon and Defiler engage in combat with a numerous mob and everybody is dead after a couple Demon strikes.
Now my hephasto again has fire aura under its Conviction aura and it does deal dmg. It was for a longer period of time as it did not do it; but now for some reason it does that again. Again trash dies around me and hephasto without even touching them. So something is very wonky about this aura system :'D
Could you make a scrreenshot in town?
and show us exactly what mods he has?
Thats the problem, it never shows the fire aura / electric aura beneath there. But what else would it be? what else could it be to kill the trash around me? I have no aura on the warlock. The only two auras on merc are Might (default aura) and Insight gives the mana aura. Neither of these deal dmg to enemies around us.
The only two things left are Hephasto with Conviction (bound with 29 lvl skill) and Defiler which does no dmg at all nor has any auras.
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But funny thing was that once I got this hephasto; it didnt kill anything around it until now. The previous one did kill trash around it without touching them from the beginning. So this either is very buggy or I just dont understand what is going on :'D
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I finally figured out how to upload larger images. Just save them first into .jpeg instead of trying to upload what I screenshotted with the crop tool.
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with gets a random aura and you can get cursed by picking a terrorized game with the cursed effect (and he can also hava fire lightening etc enchanted on top)
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