Insight is the best Warlock weapon for Echoing Strike

nihilninja wrote: 18 hours ago

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demon is might, and cursed at min. but you can get might and

Conviction and cursed.
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Schnorki wrote: 13 hours ago

nihilninja wrote: 18 hours ago

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demon is might, and cursed at min. but you can get might and

Conviction and cursed.
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How are you getting might and

Conviction on the same demon?

It can spawn with one, naturally.
And if it doesn't, lvl 20+ bind can give it one.
But if it already has an aura, lvl 20+ bind does nothing to add a 2nd one (or at least it never has for me, in countless tests).

So you'd need a mob with double aura-enchanted off the bat which if I recall correctly doesn't traditionally exist.
Heralds might possibly be an exception (haven't looked into that yet) but from my testing, you can't bind those.
Off the top of my head, I suppose it could be a possibility if the new TZ enchantments can roll aura enchanted as well, haven't looked into what exactly the options are there, but I have yet to see it happen.

nihilninja wrote: 12 hours ago

I will also add that after some more testing

Holy Freeze aura (from the demon) or another damaging aura seems to spread curse(amp damage) like crazy

TimeSlayer wrote: 19 hours ago

BigD wrote: 20 hours ago

I've been using

Ribcracker w/

Shael (unsure as to exact attack speed breakpoints at this very moment) on my Warlock and it appears to have a fair amount quicker kill speed (especially with tough single targets/bosses etc) than char equipped Insight

Bill does, using

Echoing Strike (mostly on mobs) and

Mirrored Blades (moreso on single targets).

not sure about

Mirrored Blades interactions but crushing blow and fast attack speed don't effect

Echoing Strike. flat + damage doesn't work either so Grief sucks with it too. i saw mr llama cleared

Terror zones naked with Wirts Leg, the skill is pretty OP. try using an ethereal

Colossus Voulge, it slaps.

TimeSlayer wrote: 13 hours ago

rolok wrote: 13 hours ago

TimeSlayer wrote: 1 day ago

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Echoing Strike attack speed is based on cate rate, Insight has 35% FCR.

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Critical Strike is under rated, with some +skill items u can get 50-65% chance to deal double damage.
that will make this better than Fortitude and just under Breath of the Dying for a bad roll and the best weapon with a great roll.

worst case u have ~50% chance to CS and 200% ED. ur effective ED goes from 200% to 350%.
((100%+200%)*1.5)-100%=effective ED%

best case u have 65% chance to CS and 260% ED, which makes ur effective ED 494%. better than Breath of the Dying.
((100%+260%)*1.65)-100%= 494% effective ED

-MF is always a nice bonus

-ur other gear doesn't need to stack deadly strike, so u can use mara's instead of highlords, war travelers instead of gore riders, etc.

-its cheap to reroll, till u get a good roll.

I tried clearing Ubers while using a Insight

Cryptic Axe + Spirit, and I have to say compared to Death

Decapitator + Phoenix it seems the clear speed is higher.
With Insight+Spirit Shield I am able to easily reach the 125fcr breakpoint, and the fast attacks seem to more than make up for the loss of raw dmg.

Was using merc with Might+

Conviction and Hephasto with Cursed+

Fanaticism

Ubers melted in seconds.

This is insane taking into account the easiness of obtaining these items!

noice!!! thanks for the info. haven't even tried to hit the higher breakpoint. what other gear are u using? ubers vs keyruns gear? i'm using FCR rings with leech. i want to keep

Laying of Hands for the dmg to demons. would use Fortitude for ubers that would put me over 125 FCR, using enimga for keyruns.

edit: i just check every char, i have prolly over 30 Spirit shields on all my chars and not one with 35% FCR, several 34s. if i had a 35 i could switch out a FCR ring for a BK ring. i'm over the 125% FCR. he's wicked fast. very nice with teleing.

rolok wrote: 2 hours ago

TimeSlayer wrote: 13 hours ago

rolok wrote: 13 hours ago

I tried clearing Ubers while using a Insight

Cryptic Axe + Spirit, and I have to say compared to Death

Decapitator + Phoenix it seems the clear speed is higher.
With Insight+Spirit Shield I am able to easily reach the 125fcr breakpoint, and the fast attacks seem to more than make up for the loss of raw dmg.

Was using merc with Might+

Conviction and Hephasto with Cursed+

Fanaticism

Ubers melted in seconds.

This is insane taking into account the easiness of obtaining these items!

noice!!! thanks for the info. haven't even tried to hit the higher breakpoint. what other gear are u using? ubers vs keyruns gear? i'm using FCR rings with leech. i want to keep

Laying of Hands for the dmg to demons. would use Fortitude for ubers that would put me over 125 FCR, using enimga for keyruns.

edit: i just check every char, i have prolly over 30 Spirit shields on all my chars and not one with 35% FCR, several 34s. if i had a 35 i could switch out a FCR ring for a BK ring. i'm over the 125% FCR. he's wicked fast. very nice with teleing.

Yeah we are all experimenting right now, even knowing Blizzard might nerf this build soon:P

Funnily enough the only swap I do on doing Ubers vs Keys is the

Boots, i Swap War Travelers for Gore Riders (for the Deadly Strike).
Coven

Helm + Trangs Gloves +

Arachnid Mesh, and you have reach 125fcr breakpoint as long Spirit is above 30fcr. For the rest i was using highlord, Soj, BK, Enigma.

Seems like a ladder starter build which is killer, considering other than Enigma all the gear is cheap.

Skaijuice wrote: 59 minutes ago

first try post-expansion...

argh. . . should i continue the re-rollinG?

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