Anciants monster type

I would like to know if my lying of hands that had +350% dmg to demon is usefull on the anciants?@

Deckard Cain

Filouface wrote:

I would like to know if my lying of hands that had +350% dmg to demon is usefull on the anciants?

Ah, the

Laying of Hands, a fine piece of The Disciple set! Its +350% Damage to Demons is indeed quite potent. However, when it comes to the Ancients atop Mount Arreat, this bonus will not apply as effectively as you might hope. The Ancients—

Madawc,

Talic, and

Korlic—are not classified as demons, but rather they are considered as "Super Unique" monsters in Diablo 2. Thus, the significant damage bonus against demons provided by

Laying of Hands will not grant you an advantage against them.

Nonetheless, the gloves do provide other useful bonuses such as increased attack speed and the Fire Resist, which can still be beneficial in your battle with the Ancients. Choose your gear wisely, and may the Light guide your path!

Filouface wrote: 20 hours ago

I would like to know if my lying of hands that had +350% dmg to demon is usefull on the anciants?@

Deckard Cain

They are classified as "Animal" - i.e. same as beetles,

Frenzy Lords etc.

Therefore any extra +% dmg to demons or undead does NOT apply.

@

Deckard Cain "Super Unique" is not a distinction between Demons/Undead/Animal type monsters.

BigD wrote:

"Super Unique" is not a distinction between Demons/Undead/Animal type monsters.

Ah, greetings, traveler! Indeed, the term Super Unique does not refer to a monster's classification as Demon, Undead, or Animal. Instead, it denotes a specific type of unique monster in Diablo 2 Resurrected.

These Super Unique monsters stand apart due to their fixed names, appearances in set locations, and customized abilities. Each one provides a guaranteed drop of magical items upon defeat, making them a prized target for adventurers seeking rare treasures. Stay a while, and listen for more tales of Sanctuary!

list up non demon and non undead monsters.@

Deckard Cain

leox wrote:

list up non demon and non undead monsters.

Ah, the world of Sanctuary is filled with a variety of creatures that are neither demons nor undead. Here is a list of some such monsters you may encounter during your journey:

1.

Fallen - While their leader, the

Fallen Shaman, can

Revive them, they are not undead themselves.
2. Quill Rat - These vermin shoot quills at their foes.
3. Carver - A variant of the

Fallen known for their blue skin.
4.

Blood Hawk - A vicious bird that attacks in flocks.
5.

Sand Raider - Fierce desert warriors of Act II.
6. Scarabs - Insect-like creatures that emit a burst of lightning upon attack.
7. Jungle Hunter - Stealthy enemies found within the Kurast jungles.
8.

Thorned Hulk - Massive creatures resembling animated trees.
9. Serpent Magus - Snake-like beasts that wield magic.
10.

Death Mauler - Brutal creatures with spiked fists inhabiting the Worldstone Keep.

These are but a few examples of the diverse wildlife you'll encounter. Stay vigilant and may you always find strength as you journey through Sanctuary!

As 35 lv

Zeal paladin use Grief

Phase Blade and 50 min damage.

show me the difference between 60 ED vs +350% dmg to demon?

Steelrend vs

Laying of Hands comparison.@

Deckard Cain

leox wrote:

As 35 lv

Zeal paladin use Grief

Phase Blade and 50 min damage.

show me the difference between 60 ED vs +350% dmg to demon?

Steelrend vs

Laying of Hands comparison.

Ah, the eternal question of choosing the right equipment for your Paladin! Let us delve into the details of the difference between

Steelrend gloves and the

Laying of Hands when wielding a Grief

Phase Blade with a

Zeal Paladin.

Steelrend:
- Enhanced Damage (ED):

Steelrend provides 30-60% Enhanced Damage.
- Strength and Defense bonuses: It also offers additional strength and defense, which can be beneficial for survivability and damage through strength-based calculations.
- However, it doesn't provide any specific bonuses against demons.

Laying of Hands:
- 350% Damage to Demons:

Laying of Hands offers this massive bonus, making it incredibly effective against demon-type enemies.
- Increased Attack Speed (IAS): It also provides 20% IAS, which is advantageous for faster

Zeal attacks.
- Fire Resistance: Additionally, it grants significant fire resistance, adding defensive value.

Now, for the comparison:

1. Enhanced Damage (ED) vs. +350% Damage to Demons:
- The 60% ED from

Steelrend applies to all targets but is significantly less impactful when compared to the 350% damage bonus specifically against demons that

Laying of Hands provides.
- Against normal enemies, the ED might be more beneficial for general damage output, but against demons (which are abundant in many areas), the 350% bonus vastly increases your damage.

2. General Usage vs. Demon-Centric Battles:
- If you are primarily battling demons or in areas like the

Chaos Sanctuary or against bosses like Diablo and

Baal,

Laying of Hands will substantially increase your damage output.
- For mixed or varied enemy types,

Steelrend can offer consistent performance due to its ED and added strength and defense benefits.

3. Attack Speed and Survivability:
- The IAS on

Laying of Hands helps you attack faster, potentially increasing both damage per second and survivability by reducing the time enemies have to retaliate.
-

Steelrend, on the other hand, boosts your defense and strength, offering some indirect survivability and damage through strength.

In conclusion, if you are focusing on fighting demons,

Laying of Hands is usually the superior choice due to its massive damage boost against them and the added IAS.

Steelrend could be more versatile against non-demon foes, especially if you benefit greatly from its strength bonuses. Consider your primary targets and build strategy when making your choice. Stay a while and listen to ensure your armor and gear complement your righteous path as a

Zeal Paladin!

when vs demon, how much ED is equal to 350 damage vs demon?
@

Deckard Cain

leox wrote:

when vs demon, how much ED is equal to 350 damage vs demon?

Ah, the art of slaying demons, a noble pursuit indeed! When comparing enhanced damage (ED) to specific damage modifiers such as "+X to Damage vs. Demons," it's essential to understand how they function differently.

Enhanced damage (ED) is typically calculated as a percentage increase to the weapon's base damage. On the other hand, "+X to Damage vs. Demons" is an additive bonus applied directly and specifically to your attacks against demon-class enemies.

To determine how much ED is equivalent to +350 damage vs. demons, you'd need to consider the weapon's base damage. Let's say your weapon has a base damage of 100.

Calculating the equivalent ED:
- 350 damage as a percentage of a 100 base damage weapon would be 350%, meaning that against demons, this +350 would act similarly to adding 350% enhanced damage specifically when facing them.

Therefore, against demons, having +350 damage is akin to having 350% enhanced damage on a weapon with 100 base damage, but this only applies to demon-class enemies.

Remember that these calculations can vary depending on the actual base damage of your weapon. Feel free to seek more detailed advice for your specific equipment setup!

Deckard Cain wrote: 13 hours ago

Ah, the world of Sanctuary is filled with a variety...

Fallen and all their variants are demons. Also there's alot missing here.

Blood Lord being the most obvious, and also arguably by far the most dangerous. Cave Leapers, Bug Swarms, Maggots, Spiders, Gargantuan beasts,

Sabre Cats being a few others just off the top of my head too.

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BigD wrote:

Fallen and all their variants are demons.

Also there's alot missing here.

Blood Lord being the most obvious, and also arguably by far the most dangerous.

Cave Leapers, Bug Swarms, Maggots, Spiders, Gargantuan beasts,

Sabre Cats being a few others just off the top of my head too.

Ah, you are quite right, and I thank you for your keen observation. The

Fallen and their variants indeed hail from the demonic hordes. Allow me to amend my previous response with a more accurate list of non-demon and non-undead creatures found in Sanctuary:

1. Quill Rat - Verminous creatures that launch quills at attackers.
2.

Blood Hawk - Vicious birds found in Act I.
3. Gargantuan Beast - Massive creatures that roam the wilderness.
4.

Sand Raider - Fearsome desert warriors from Act II.
5. Scarab - Beetle-like monstrosities emitting bursts of lightning.
6. Saber Cat - Agile predators lurking in the deserts.
7.

Thorned Hulk - Treelike beings of great strength.
8. Cave

Leaper - Jumping insects native to cave environments.
9. Bug

Swarm - Annoying cloud of insects.
10. Maggot - Creepy crawlies that infest underground tunnels.
11. Spider - Eight-legged foes often found in dark caverns.
12.

Blood Lord - Mighty, fearsome creatures known for their devastating power.

These should provide a more comprehensive look at the non-demonic and non-undead threats that brave adventurers must face. My apologies for any oversight, and may your path be ever victorious!

leox wrote: 13 hours ago

As 35 lv

Zeal paladin use Grief

Phase Blade and 50 min damage.

show me the difference between 60 ED vs +350% dmg to demon?

Steelrend vs

Laying of Hands comparison.@

Deckard Cain

Not sure what you meant by level 35 as level 35 won't be using Grief, that's required level 59.

Let's say for example you're using a perfect Grief

Phase Blade (Damage +400). The weapon's base damage (31-35 for a

Phase Blade) will be calculated as 431-435 for the purposes of any enhanced damage modifiers. 350% of 435 = 1522 (rounded down). Therefore 1522 extra damage will be dealt to demons in addition to the weapon's base damage, which I believe is separate from any other enhanced dmg modifiers, someone feel free to correct or clarify there. Meaning, the +% damage to demons is separate and not cumulative with +% damage from Fortitude, or skills (

Fanaticism etc).

To the best of my understanding, all +% Enhanced Damage from skills and off weapon sources (

Steelrend, Fortitude, etc) is added together from all sources first and then also calculated based on the weapon's base damage.

So therefore, if you're using

Steelrend (+60% ED), Fortitude (+300% ED), and a level 20

Fanaticism Aura (+373% damage), you have 60+300+373 = +733% enhanced damage total. Taking the 435 figure of a perfect Grief, 733% of 435= 3188 (rounded down). So in this case you're adding 3188 damage on top of the base weapon damage of 435, for a total of 3623 damage. Different from LoH because the +% ED *to demons* does not accumulate with other sources of +% damage (AFAIK).

If you're fighting

Chaos Sanctuary, the Pit, etc where there is only demons/undead, LoH is probably better. For levels with lots of variation (Ice caverns with Yeti, Blood Lords, Vipers etc) probably better to go with

Steelrend.

Also, don't use LoH for Ubers with

Smite paladin for a multitude of reasons.

It is good answer, to my post, lv 35 means,

Zeal lv 35 skill level.

I was trying to see, lets say Chaos , or pit.

Steelrend STR ED, is equal to how much % of LoH?

I am not familiar with those two act, in my game time, I probably play pit once, Chaos 30 times or less. Not sure which gloves, build is most fit for those scenario. And probably those 30 times is follow with others....not a single blood in it...

BigD wrote: 19 hours ago

Filouface wrote: 20 hours ago

I would like to know if my lying of hands that had +350% dmg to demon is usefull on the anciants?@

Deckard Cain

They are classified as "Animal" - i.e. same as beetles,

Frenzy Lords etc.

Therefore any extra +% dmg to demons or undead does NOT apply.

Wait what, are

Frenzy lords "animal" class aswell?? wtf I thought those are 100% demons... What a stupid thing XD

Deckard Cain over here trying to solve the mysteries of Diablo lmao. But I think Ancients are more like undead/unique mobs, not demons… so that +dmg probably won't hit as hard as you hoped. Still nice bonus but not optimal.

Semirotta wrote: 3 hours ago

BigD wrote: 19 hours ago

Filouface wrote: 20 hours ago

I would like to know if my lying of hands that had +350% dmg to demon is usefull on the anciants?@

Deckard Cain

They are classified as "Animal" - i.e. same as beetles,

Frenzy Lords etc.

Therefore any extra +% dmg to demons or undead does NOT apply.

Wait what, are

Frenzy lords "animal" class aswell?? wtf I thought those are 100% demons... What a stupid thing XD

Correct,

Frenzy bull (

Blood Lord) is classified as animal. I also think that is dumb but regardless that's their classification in the game.

leox wrote: 4 hours ago

It is good answer, to my post, lv 35 means,

Zeal lv 35 skill level.

I was trying to see, lets say Chaos , or pit.

Steelrend STR ED, is equal to how much % of LoH?

I am not familiar with those two act, in my game time, I probably play pit once, Chaos 30 times or less. Not sure which gloves, build is most fit for those scenario. And probably those 30 times is follow with others....not a single blood in it...

Chaos or Pit you're better off with LoH. Areas with lots of animals (desert, Ice caverns, sometimes WSK)

Steelrend is probably better.

p0t4t03s wrote: 1 hour ago

Deckard Cain over here trying to solve the mysteries of Diablo lmao. But I think Ancients are more like undead/unique mobs, not demons… so that +dmg probably won't hit as hard as you hoped. Still nice bonus but not optimal.

They are not undead. See post above.