Ladder Season 12 starts on October 3rd

Hurricanr wrote: 2 months ago

Diablo 2 is an old game, and if you want to

Attract and retain pleyers you need runewords like Mosaic.

Nonsens. People are playing chess for several hundred years without any power creep. The game needs just more ways to combine things. If the game has as many builds as chess has combinations it will never get boring. The game needs just more funky items like Passion or

Wolfhowl or

Athena's Wrath. And it must be possible to create funky S-tier builds with this funky items. The huge difference between S-tier and F-tier just sucks. It is not important to buf builds. It is important to level the tiers, ideally they would not exist at all, because all builds have the same power. The limitation of competitive builds is the main limitation of the game. It is absolutely no solution for the problem, that (as in D3) every season get it own new S-tier build, which has to be played by everyone. Mosaic is just an import of the idiotic D3 strategy into D2. It does not solve anything. It is just annoying.

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

People are playing chess for several hundred years without any power creep.

go play chess then ? tell me more about the phat loot you got playing chess

I’ve spent a long time now in singleplayer mods, but I kind of feel like playing some ladder for a change. The ladder trade economy isn’t much different from 4-5 ladders ago, right? Could be a nice change of pace for a few weeks

Hurricanr wrote: 2 months ago

go play chess then ? tell me more about the phat loot you got playing chess

I have close to 5000 chess games on lichess. Every game is unique and the phat loot is experience. I honestly don't know whether I spend more time on diablo or on chess but it's close.

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

The game needs just more funky items like Passion or

Wolfhowl or

Athena's Wrath. And it must be possible to create funky S-tier builds with this funky items.

I absolutely love exploring new builds and it's sad to see how unplayable many things are. And I am flabbergasted that I never seen or heard of

Athena's Wrath.

vued wrote: 2 months ago

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

The game needs just more funky items like Passion or

Wolfhowl or

Athena's Wrath. And it must be possible to create funky S-tier builds with this funky items.

I absolutely love exploring new builds and it's sad to see how unplayable many things are. And I am flabbergasted that I never seen or heard of

Athena's Wrath.

Sorry my fault. I did not want to quote

Athena's Wrath, because it is pretty normal. I thought of

Grim's Burning Dead, which is quite unusual but useless because non-competitive compared to

Homunculus plus any

Wand. This is another general problem, that two-hand items are in most cases worse than two seperate items.

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

vued wrote: 2 months ago

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

The game needs just more funky items like Passion or

Wolfhowl or

Athena's Wrath. And it must be possible to create funky S-tier builds with this funky items.

I absolutely love exploring new builds and it's sad to see how unplayable many things are. And I am flabbergasted that I never seen or heard of

Athena's Wrath.

Sorry my fault. I did not want to quote

Athena's Wrath, because it is pretty normal. I thought of

Grim's Burning Dead, which is quite unusual but useless because non-competitive compared to

Homunculus plus any

Wand. This is another general problem, that two-hand items are in most cases worse than two seperate items.

Yes, the game balance is not good in those items. However, you dont want blizzard change that. Sometimes people want blizzard to do good changes, but they just make it worse. And sometimes, we think it cant be worse than that. Turth is that it can, by destroy something already working.

I worry that is based on d3 blizzard balance changes. if they apply that experience in d2 balance, some are really bad. Like nec dog story, blizzard balance team really not so good. We better hope game alive and not become bad, small changes are okay.

leox wrote: 2 months ago

I worry that is based on d3 blizzard balance changes. if they apply that experience in d2 balance, some are really bad. Like nec dog story, blizzard balance team really not so good. We better hope game alive and not become bad, small changes are okay.

But I think some nerfs a indisputable:

• Mosaic destroys any other build.
• Spirit destroys non-caster builds.
• Grief destroys any other weapon.

This rune words are obvious errors, which need a fix.

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

leox wrote: 2 months ago

I worry that is based on d3 blizzard balance changes. if they apply that experience in d2 balance, some are really bad. Like nec dog story, blizzard balance team really not so good. We better hope game alive and not become bad, small changes are okay.

But I think some nerfs a indisputable:

• Mosaic destroys any other build.
• Spirit destroys non-caster builds.
• Grief destroys any other weapon.

This rune words are obvious errors, which need a fix.

I dont think move any of those is easy, game is already balance in good way.

The version that I play before is no such thing, to be honest, I feel current version is better.

Original version , you can have un-cast able heavenly fist and not so good. ( Very high skill lv by sigon)

If you have original CD, you can still experience that in single player and very low loot rate to find arkin valor.


--sigon
if you equip sigon and die in some way, +skill remains and equip again, it + 1 again. That version everyone play very high skill and get fixed real quick.

and petty nothing to play until those strong thing show up , let game survive several years.

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

But I think some nerfs a indisputable:

Mosaic destroys any other build.
Spirit destroys non-caster builds.
Grief destroys any other weapon.

This rune words are obvious errors, which need a fix.

I know that I won’t make friends by saying that, but you can add Enigma in your list which completely f*cked the game in many ways.

Tornado_OLO wrote: 2 months ago

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

But I think some nerfs a indisputable:

Mosaic destroys any other build.
Spirit destroys non-caster builds.
Grief destroys any other weapon.

This rune words are obvious errors, which need a fix.

I know that I won’t make friends by saying that, but you can add Enigma in your list which completely f*cked the game in many ways.

Oh pls Enigma was a good change cause we would be in the same situation like was for years!Sorceress would be powerful by just that and hdin unplayable.And btw it didn't f*cked the game at all(not trying to argue,just to give a point at least for eni).

Adrian45632 wrote: 2 months ago

Oh pls Enigma was a good change cause we would be in the same situation like was for years!Sorceress would be powerful by just that and hdin unplayable.And btw it didn't f*cked the game at all.

Paladin has

Charge to get close to enemies

Enigma gives insane bonus (every affixes are crazy) in addition to

Teleport which is overkill.

Teleport is so game changer that Enigma complete remade the game and made it way easier.

Right, it's a bit off topic, we better have to create another one.

Tornado_OLO wrote: 2 months ago

Adrian45632 wrote: 2 months ago

Oh pls Enigma was a good change cause we would be in the same situation like was for years!Sorceress would be powerful by just that and hdin unplayable.And btw it didn't f*cked the game at all.

Paladin has

Charge to get close to enemies

Enigma gives insane bonus (every affixes are crazy) in addition to

Teleport which is overkill.

Teleport is so game changer that Enigma complete remade the game and made it way easier.

Right, it's a bit off topic, we better have to create another one.

That

Charge of paladin is so dangerous if you don't have items especially for a hc player;|!Most of the time we have to fight with the mobs along the way.Btw i'm just trying to have a conversations with you that's all:P!

If I have time I will play ladder only to get Hustle and Cure runeword at least.

i also play chess daily, but would not compare it with d2. diffrent types od games. btw some are boring with normal chess so started to play freestyle. agree on the point, much more well designed rw and uniques would be nice so each build can do solo ubers (as a top goal of game). also that item level would also be nice to appear.

Alexandre_Souza wrote: 2 months ago

If I have time I will play ladder only to get Hustle and Cure runeword at least.

I have a Hustle (

Mage Plate) that i can give you at season switch
Don't have a Cure, but i can probably make one by tomorrow if you tell me what kind of base you want.

Tornado_OLO wrote: 2 months ago

I know that I won’t make friends by saying that, but you can add Enigma in your list which completely f*cked the game in many ways.

I am not sure which one is the problem: is it really Enigma or is it

Teleport itself? I think

Teleport is actually just a speedup: walk → run →

Teleport. I also think everybody (also Druids) should get this easily: maybe via an amulett, which would be a nice Mara alternative.

I definitely do not like how D3 has totally messed

Teleport. But I think

Teleport itself needs some kind of nerf. I think the use of

Teleport should damage the player like

Sacrifice. The damage should be higher than the regeneration by a potion so that you can not use it continuously.

I Think Diablo2 was really destroyed at the possibility that one class can get the Skill of another class.
Im still playing the game but it was kinda ... take it or die ...

ceving wrote: 2 months ago

I am not sure which one is the problem: is it really Enigma or is it

Teleport itself? I think

Teleport is actually just a speedup: walk → run →

Teleport. I also think everybody (also Druids) should get this easily: maybe via an amulett, which would be a nice Mara alternative.

You're right, without Enigma, sorc would have been the only class to be able to speedrun the game.
So

Teleport itself is the problem but Enigma increased it.

Pai wrote: 2 months ago

I Think Diablo2 was really destroyed at the possibility that one class can get the Skill of another class.

1.10 runewords make no sense. Be able to use skills from another class is strange.

But on another side, it allowed a wide variety of builds which helped the game to stay alive.