Non-TZ monsters that can drop 2 class skill amulet

Hi

Never thought about it before, but...

Today I realize that only a few monster can drop 2 class skill amulet (ilvl 90), on non-TZ areas

Baal L99

Nihlathak L95
Diablo L94

Minion of Destruction (normal) L92

And in a similar way, just a few monsters, on non-TZ areas, can drop a 6 ml ring (ilvl 86). In special on L85 areas, just the Champions and Uniques may drop one

Is this right?

Think so.

I have rolled a few rings and ammys from TZ's and most come out OK, but only 1 came to a +2 skills.

Sometimes it's worth rolling them just to see, especially if you're in a 96+ TZ, in my opinion.



Jeremy

What do you mean by re-roll?

Crafted?
Only if you don't have enough level to guarantee the max alvl on gamble (for ring L91 - 6 ml has alvl 86 - and L95 for amulet - 2 class skill has alvl 90), or else you can just gamble them.

Recipe: Random Magic Item of Same Type?
It is a gem waste, better gamble them and use gems to re-roll other things (mainly charms and jewels)

Recipe: Random Magic Amulet and

Recipe: Random Magic Ring?
Use your level not the item level, and can never give you a 2 class skill amulet or a 6 ml ring (alvl = level * .75)

My point with the post was more of a 'curiosity" for the natural drops on non-tz:

On non-tz, you will never get a natural drop 2 class skill amulet or 6 ml ring from a normal monster (except from

Minion of Destruction), and the first one can only natural drop from 3 uniques!!!

As nowadays, in general, people prefer to do

Terror Zones, this curiosity is not a issue in practice

Hineythegreat wrote: 1 week ago

I have rolled a few rings and ammys from TZ's and most come out OK, but only 1 came to a +2 skills.

Sometimes it's worth rolling them just to see, especially if you're in a 96+ TZ, in my opinion.



Jeremy

Yes, crafting.

Using TZ rings and amulets was the only way I can get a potentially high enough iLvl to roll something good, as I've only been playing again for 2 months and my highest lvl character is currently 92.



Jeremy

Because of the formula if you reach L93 you can start gambling amulets for crafting

93/2 = 46 (your level part)
+
(93-5)/2 = 44 (gambled amulet part)
=
90 (ilvl of the crafted amulet)

Hineythegreat wrote: 6 days ago

Yes, crafting.

Using TZ rings and amulets was the only way I can get a potentially high enough iLvl to roll something good, as I've only been playing again for 2 months and my highest lvl character is currently 92.



Jeremy

Is this formula the same for max affix options on rings as well?



Jeremy

Yep.

Gambled items ilvl is character level -5/+4

Crafted ilvl is half you level + half item level (each rounded down)

In the case of items with quality level 1 (case of rings and amulets): affix level = item level.

So:

character level 93 -> gambled item level 88+ -> crafted item level 90+ (enough for amulets roll 2 to class skill)

character level 89 -> gambled item level 84+ -> crafted item level 86+ (enough for rings roll with 6 ml)

https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/i ... /pre.shtml
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/i ... /suf.shtml
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/b ... ling.shtml
https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/i ... tems.shtml

Hineythegreat wrote: 6 days ago

Is this formula the same for max affix options on rings as well?



Jeremy