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for the Uber smiter, Hoz/Exile × duress/fortitude which combination is better?

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consider
- a CTA offhand
- already have enough runes
- want to save time and make Uber run smoother


wish some advice on the smiter build
:)
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consider
- a CTA offhand
- already have enough runes
- want to save time and make Uber run smoother


wish some advice on the smiter build
:)
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for mini ubers, you want Enigma to tp past the adds and get to
Lilith
+
Izual
. If you want to keep a armor swap in the cube, I'd say probably CoH for uber meph's
Conviction
aura.
Best shield is Phoenix for kill speed, best defensive shield is Sanctuary, best qol is Exile.
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I use Mosaicsin after I leveled her, but if you want a dedicated Smiter and if you have budget, Last Wish is the weapon for sure and as armor, Hustle is a nice alternative to test. I actually use Last Wish on my FoH hybrid build and makes an amazing difference.

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M1ck 501

Europe PC
Last Wish, Chains of Honour,
Crown of Ages
and
Eth
Exile for Ubers. Many different options though.
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My pal is hammerdin, but it's half-smiter and it goes smooth for Ubers.

- Gface (socketed with IAS / max dmg)
- Enigma (don't need to change)
- HoZ
- Grief
- Arachs
-
Goblin Toe

- Draculs
- Maras
-
Raven Frost

- Other ring at will
- Many GCs with 30 lit res
- Many Pal skiller GCs.

Only change is switching Arachs for Thundergods when facing Uber Meph.

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fredkid 1364

Amazon Americas PC

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=7 |
Jah
=9 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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mhlg 1880

Americas PC
I started running Ubers almost 3 years ago, with I might add great success and only a single Death. My starting gear from a post I made almost 3 years ago was and mostly still is.
My gear: weapons: Grief, Call To Arms; Armor: Duress (Also have Enigma and Fortitude), Gloves
Dracul's Grasp
,
Helm
G-Face, socketed with
Um
,
Belt
T-Gods (Replaced with Verdungo with -15% damage reduction), R. Shield HOZ socketed with
Um
, L shield Spirit. Amulet 28 Mara's; Rings Jordan and
Raven Frost
, Charms low Pally torch, middle annilius, 2X Pcom Grand Charms.
Since then I've rolled a 67% Crushing Blow Last Wish, and an Exile shield with 45% resists. To be frank neither of the two added anything of value to my success. I still prefer the Grief over the Last Wish (Dracul's is enough
Life Tap
) and the
Herald Of Zakarum
over the Exile, especially because socketed with an
Um
, it not only does a quick take-down, it also adds 72% resistances which goes a long way toward neutralizing
Mephisto
's Level 20
Conviction
aura, and you want to try and get your lightning resistance to about 300%, because
Mephisto
is the issue of the three pimary Ubers. I tried it but stopped using an Enigma when I started to get some decent drops (
Jah
dropped in Matron's). I will swap to my Javazon for
Matron's Den
because she rips right through it and it's more fun than teleporting or smiting my way through it. To the point, for the first two years I averaged 12-16 runs per month, found 5 perfect (not including 19-20 rolls) torches, and yet my build has changed very little.

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uuee 159

Europe PC
Fastest
Life Tap
setup is:

Phoenix in an elite pally shield
Grief Pb
Rattlecage

Goblin toes
Draculs
GFace

sg. like this:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/b6fjj0jg

Running lvl21
Conviction
against meph and get at least 72ias from gear (10
Belt
, 15ias jewel in armor, 15ias+damage taken goes to mana jewel in
Helm
-so
Baal
doesn't burn your mana-, 32+ ias Grief pb).


Almost as fast, but safer due to higher chance of
Life Tap
:

Exile in an elite pally shield
Grief Pb
Rattlecage

Goblin toes
Crafted 10% crushing blow gloves
Crafted 10% open wounds
Belt

GFace

sg, like this:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/i4fmx04w

Running lvl21
Conviction
against meph and get at least 72ias from gear (20 gloves, 15ias+damage taken goes to mana jewel in
Helm
-so
Baal
doesn't burn your mana-, 37+ ias Grief pb).
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It seems nobody mention gladiator’s bane.
It’s super tanky. My Mosaic assassin cleared Uber using only 2 mana potions! No healing, no rejun potion required at all.

Caveat: I’ve set it up for tanking, ease of play for Ubers.

Kira
Mara
TGods
Wisp
Raven

Gladiator’s bane
Dracul’s grasp

More than 300% lightning resist after activating
Fade


After finishing off Meph, I could kill
Baal
and Diablo altogether
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M1ck wrote: 1 month ago
Last Wish, Chains of Honour,
Crown of Ages
and
Eth
Exile for Ubers. Many different options though.
When you have Wealth burning a hole in your pocket, which I really cannot hate on because I run the same setup, I might switch out Last Wish for Grief if I want more of the raw damage.

"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
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User avatar

fredkid 1364

Amazon Americas PC

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=7 |
Jah
=9 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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mhlg 1880

Americas PC
Dnasty225 wrote: 4 weeks ago
M1ck wrote: 1 month ago
Last Wish, Chains of Honour,
Crown of Ages
and
Eth
Exile for Ubers. Many different options though.
When you have Wealth burning a hole in your pocket, which I really cannot hate on because I run the same setup, I might switch out Last Wish for Grief if I want more of the raw damage.
I have a Last Wish, and 44% resist
Vortex Shield
Exile, and I really didn't see any functional benefit over a Grief and HOZ setup. In fact the Grief setup seems to take Ubers down faster, and Darcul's
Life Tap
procs often and is enough, for survival. But to each their own!

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mhlg wrote: 3 weeks ago
I have a Last Wish, and 44% resist
Vortex Shield
Exile, and I really didn't see any functional benefit over a Grief and HOZ setup. In fact the Grief setup seems to take Ubers down faster, and Darcul's
Life Tap
procs often and is enough, for survival. But to each their own!
Faster
Life Tap
procs are imo the only reason Last Wish is used for Ubers, Bosses only. It can be easily substituted by a
Wand
with
Life Tap
charges. I think the best usecase for Last Wish is 2x for A5 Merc as a companion to
Travincal
horker.
Chains of Honor, on the other hand, is a huge improvement, because of the + Allres. You will want 300 all res, especially lightning for Ubermeph and CoH takes you a big step closer to that goal. Same goes for
Um
'ed HoZ, but i think in the end, Exile has a better overall performance because of the huge Def Bonus by
Defiance
Aura and the better % to proc
Life Tap
, as the archers in
Matron's Den
tend to hit a lil bit to often without it. It also allows you to substitute Draculs for
Blood Gloves
with 20 ias and 10% Crushing blow and possible res, further elevating your overall dmg

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mhlg 1880

Americas PC
Blubbalutsch wrote: 3 weeks ago
mhlg wrote: 3 weeks ago
I have a Last Wish, and 44% resist
Vortex Shield
Exile, and I really didn't see any functional benefit over a Grief and HOZ setup. In fact the Grief setup seems to take Ubers down faster, and Darcul's
Life Tap
procs often and is enough, for survival. But to each their own!
Faster
Life Tap
procs are imo the only reason Last Wish is used for Ubers, Bosses only. It can be easily substituted by a
Wand
with
Life Tap
charges. I think the best usecase for Last Wish is 2x for A5 Merc as a companion to
Travincal
horker.
Chains of Honor, on the other hand, is a huge improvement, because of the + Allres. You will want 300 all res, especially lightning for Ubermeph and CoH takes you a big step closer to that goal. Same goes for
Um
'ed HoZ, but i think in the end, Exile has a better overall performance because of the huge Def Bonus by
Defiance
Aura and the better % to proc
Life Tap
, as the archers in
Matron's Den
tend to hit a lil bit to often without it. It also allows you to substitute Draculs for
Blood Gloves
with 20 ias and 10% Crushing blow and possible res, further elevating your overall dmg
I've never had an issue with
Life Tap
procing using Dracul's, and with level 10 once it procs it has a duration of 37.6s. That's more than enough time for it to proc again. With the gear I'm using it takes under 4 minutes to clear all three major Ubers, with 3 years and more than 200 runs and only a single Death, I don't see any reason to change. But, since I have the runs to roll any item I want in the game I couldn't resist trying out a Last Wish and an Exile x 2.

Please post offer in item trade before adding me on Bnet, and no please no direct messages with offers. I'm in EST time zone. (E Coast U.S)
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Crushing blow is the only reson to use Last Wish against ubers.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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mhlg wrote: 3 weeks ago
Dnasty225 wrote: 4 weeks ago
M1ck wrote: 1 month ago
Last Wish, Chains of Honour,
Crown of Ages
and
Eth
Exile for Ubers. Many different options though.
When you have Wealth burning a hole in your pocket, which I really cannot hate on because I run the same setup, I might switch out Last Wish for Grief if I want more of the raw damage.
I have a Last Wish, and 44% resist
Vortex Shield
Exile, and I really didn't see any functional benefit over a Grief and HOZ setup. In fact the Grief setup seems to take Ubers down faster, and Darcul's
Life Tap
procs often and is enough, for survival. But to each their own!
HoZ is great, especially if you up it, but I like running Exile in a 42-res
Zakarum Shield
because I like to use
Blood Gloves
for the added Crushing blow and because I just like to play around with different builds.

"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
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mhlg 1880

Americas PC
Yes my HOZ is upped and socketed with an
Um
which gives 72% resists, I have some
Blood Gloves
on hand but like some of the many other things I've tried, they didn't make any function difference. Playing with a little caution, I can still clear all three major Ubers in under 4 minutes. I have however encountered all three at once. I didn't time it but it was basically in and out.

I think we all get to a point where we find a build that does what we want it to and then stop, but since I've accrued enough Wealth to satisfy my curiosity through experimentation I will try things out to see how they work out.

Please post offer in item trade before adding me on Bnet, and no please no direct messages with offers. I'm in EST time zone. (E Coast U.S)
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