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Yo. Im back.
Need advice. I want make Doom for zealer. I use this build mostly for ubers ,but there i use Grief ofc, Normally i use
Stormlash
(i tested also schaeffer but ,minimum str is to high in my opinion. works better then
Stormlash
btw...) ,but i want test Doom.
What base i should use in Your opinion ? I dont have sure. Meaby even is result worth it i made it in hammer. Tell my Your opinion. I made my first Doom last days for sorc and its cool. Waiting for Your advices. Meaby somebody tested that ?
Greetings from Poland,
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Yo. Im back.
Need advice. I want make Doom for zealer. I use this build mostly for ubers ,but there i use Grief ofc, Normally i use
Stormlash
(i tested also schaeffer but ,minimum str is to high in my opinion. works better then
Stormlash
btw...) ,but i want test Doom.
What base i should use in Your opinion ? I dont have sure. Meaby even is result worth it i made it in hammer. Tell my Your opinion. I made my first Doom last days for sorc and its cool. Waiting for Your advices. Meaby somebody tested that ?
Greetings from Poland,
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???? Any advice ? about base ?
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atari 677

Europe XLinux
As far as I can see for Doom only
Berserker Axe
,
War Spike
and
Ettin Axe
are possible one-handed elite weapons. From those
War Spike
is the fastest base while
Berserker Axe
has a bit more dmg.

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atari wrote: 2 weeks ago
As far as I can see for Doom only
Berserker Axe
,
War Spike
and
Ettin Axe
are possible one-handed elite weapons. From those
War Spike
is the fastest base while
Berserker Axe
has a bit more dmg.
thats mean for zealer better way is
Berserker Axe
. Speed is from
Zeal
and fanatism... Hmmm but what about with hammers.... ?
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There are no one-handed hammers that can have 5 sockets.

With a
Berserker Axe
and level 25
Fanaticism
you need 58 IAS for max attack speed.

With an
Ettin Axe
it is 83 IAS and with a
War Spike
it is 39.

Since Doom offers 45 IAS, a
War Spike
gives you the most options in terms of gloves, belt, armor and amulet.

Ettin Axe
forces you to bring 40 IAS from gloves and Highlords/Cats or Hustle/Treachery.

Berserker Axe
needs 20 IAS from either gloves or amulet and is the only weapon with a range of 2. I would go for this one.

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D369 10

Are you making a
Holy Freeze
Paladin or just wanting this weapon for your current Zealer? Because if not then it won't be that interesting on a non-
Holy Freeze
build. Honestly BA is a great choice as you can use this weapon on a Druid and deal better dmg there apposed to a
War Spike
. Plus BA has better range - which is
Key
for Zealing.

Honestly though it's not a very exciting weapon to use since the dmg is pretty ordinary but when we have nothing left to make then why not. All the best with it!
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marl71 130

Americas PC
Schaefer's is the strongest non-
Eth
Zeal
weapon I've tested, and I've spent a lot of time testing
Zeal
weapons. The strength requirement is a little higher, but strength investment also increases your melee damage...so it's win-win if you can balance with extra life on your charms, or someplace else

For Doom, the
Holy Freeze
is nice, but repairing it is not very nice. Damage is useable, and still efficient enough to farm in the pits. But if you are used to Grief, Doom is going to be much weaker, so be prepared.
Berserker Axe
is the best base imo
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marl71 130

Americas PC
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marl71 wrote: 2 weeks ago
^There’s an echo in here
Your echo was a sneaky spam bot. Removed & banned.
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DasNarf wrote: 2 weeks ago
There are no one-handed hammers that can have 5 sockets.

With a
Berserker Axe
and level 25
Fanaticism
you need 58 IAS for max attack speed.

With an
Ettin Axe
it is 83 IAS and with a
War Spike
it is 39.

Since Doom offers 45 IAS, a
War Spike
gives you the most options in terms of gloves, belt, armor and amulet.

Ettin Axe
forces you to bring 40 IAS from gloves and Highlords/Cats or Hustle/Treachery.

Berserker Axe
needs 20 IAS from either gloves or amulet and is the only weapon with a range of 2. I would go for this one.
thx for advice. From your post its clear thats
Berserker Axe
is best option but i must calculate mwhat i wear and how many ias i have because
War Spike
looks non orthodocsic and i like it ;)
whats mean that "range of 2" never meet this before.... Meaby ikm ignorant... plz expalin me.
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D369 wrote: 2 weeks ago
Are you making a
Holy Freeze
Paladin or just wanting this weapon for your current Zealer? Because if not then it won't be that interesting on a non-
Holy Freeze
build. Honestly BA is a great choice as you can use this weapon on a Druid and deal better dmg there apposed to a
War Spike
. Plus BA has better range - which is
Key
for Zealing.

Honestly though it's not a very exciting weapon to use since the dmg is pretty ordinary but when we have nothing left to make then why not. All the best with it!
I want use it in this build i have. I testes many weapons on this zealer. Any of them dont make me happy. Grief is to strong and i dont like it in Diablo .Grief break balance and all physics use trhis. I try dont ,when im not on Uber. Bhut trully i almost dont play this character - only on Ubers. I looking somthing to do in Diablo and after making Doom for sorc i meaby want try it on Uber. Ofcourse problem is that roll of it can be weak ,not ike last time in sorc and tests also dont make me happy :D.
Last options for my (propablly) are Doom ,and
Stormlash
etheric.... but its to expensive ,to stupid tests i think...
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marl71 wrote: 2 weeks ago
Schaefer's is the strongest non-
Eth
Zeal
weapon I've tested, and I've spent a lot of time testing
Zeal
weapons. The strength requirement is a little higher, but strength investment also increases your melee damage...so it's win-win if you can balance with extra life on your charms, or someplace else

For Doom, the
Holy Freeze
is nice, but repairing it is not very nice. Damage is useable, and still efficient enough to farm in the pits. But if you are used to Grief, Doom is going to be much weaker, so be prepared.
Berserker Axe
is the best base imo
cannot agree with You. Its fun thats true ,but comparing with
Stormlash
work weaker in my case. I testes also. But thats can because diffirent gear or somthing. meaby rolls. dont know. Im buy meaby schaeffer close to perf in future...
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marl71 wrote: 2 weeks ago
Schaefer's is the strongest non-
Eth
Zeal
weapon I've tested, and I've spent a lot of time testing
Zeal
weapons. The strength requirement is a little higher, but strength investment also increases your melee damage...so it's win-win if you can balance with extra life on your charms, or someplace else

For Doom, the
Holy Freeze
is nice, but repairing it is not very nice. Damage is useable, and still efficient enough to farm in the pits. But if you are used to Grief, Doom is going to be much weaker, so be prepared.
Berserker Axe
is the best base imo
i play many also my amazon with twohanded infinnity ,and i have big collection of chiped and orts there. I can live with repairng :)
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marl71 130

Americas PC
aaabbbccc666 wrote: 2 weeks ago
cannot agree with You. Its fun thats true ,but comparing with
Stormlash
work weaker in my case. I testes also. But thats can because diffirent gear or somthing. meaby rolls. dont know. Im buy meaby schaeffer close to perf in future...
I'm not sure I understand what you wrote, what do you not agree with?
Eth
Stormlash
is a good weapon, but
Zeal
dps is less than 1/2 of your dps with Grief, on the maxroll damage calculator anyway, with the same best in slot gear
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uuee 57

Europe PC
With a fairly ideal setup (without merc):

Grief does 78722 dps https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/8q4oy036

Doom Ettin (since ias req is no problem, and it does more dmg than BA) does 42169 dps https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/q54ps03v

Eth
Stormlash
does 39336 dps https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/sd4mo0h1
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marl71 wrote: 2 weeks ago
aaabbbccc666 wrote: 2 weeks ago
cannot agree with You. Its fun thats true ,but comparing with
Stormlash
work weaker in my case. I testes also. But thats can because diffirent gear or somthing. meaby rolls. dont know. Im buy meaby schaeffer close to perf in future...
I'm not sure I understand what you wrote, what do you not agree with?
Eth
Stormlash
is a good weapon, but
Zeal
dps is less than 1/2 of your dps with Grief, on the maxroll damage calculator anyway, with the same best in slot gear
cannot agree that storm is best option
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i continue topic of zealer with fanatism. I get new schaeffer hammer for tests and still have
Stormlash
. Need advice about what put inside socket in your opinion. If i get ias breakpoint ,should put 5/5lightning jeww or ed ?
Btw i make fail today. I didnt check for sure ,and i was sure thats perfect stormlashi is 270 ed and i but one for
Cham
.... When i check on my old
Stormlash
i saw thats mine is 317 :-/. I wanted buy better one like i do with schaeffer... :) Stupid.
Luckly schaeffer is nice. :)
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D369 10

aaabbbccc666 wrote: 2 weeks ago
i continue topic of zealer with fanatism. I get new schaeffer hammer for tests and still have
Stormlash
. Need advice about what put inside socket in your opinion. If i get ias breakpoint ,should put 5/5lightning jeww or ed ?
Btw i make fail today. I didnt check for sure ,and i was sure thats perfect stormlashi is 270 ed and i but one for
Cham
.... When i check on my old
Stormlash
i saw thats mine is 317 :-/. I wanted buy better one like i do with schaeffer... :) Stupid.
Luckly schaeffer is nice. :)
Hi I see you are new to
Zeal
. You mention reaching your IAS Breakpoint but I see the gear you have on along with your Max
Fanaticism
and I can tell you that this is not enough for Schaefer's. The
Legendary Mallet
speed is 20 and a
Scourge
is -10. The only choice for Schaefer's is a
Shael
or IAS with something else but I recommend the rune. You can try be cute and add a Rainbow Facet but i promise you it's not fast enough. Try using it empty and then with a
Shael
.
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D369 10

aaabbbccc666 wrote: 2 weeks ago
D369 wrote: 2 weeks ago
Are you making a
Holy Freeze
Paladin or just wanting this weapon for your current Zealer? Because if not then it won't be that interesting on a non-
Holy Freeze
build. Honestly BA is a great choice as you can use this weapon on a Druid and deal better dmg there apposed to a
War Spike
. Plus BA has better range - which is
Key
for Zealing.

Honestly though it's not a very exciting weapon to use since the dmg is pretty ordinary but when we have nothing left to make then why not. All the best with it!
I want use it in this build i have. I testes many weapons on this zealer. Any of them dont make me happy. Grief is to strong and i dont like it in Diablo .Grief break balance and all physics use trhis. I try dont ,when im not on Uber. Bhut trully i almost dont play this character - only on Ubers. I looking somthing to do in Diablo and after making Doom for sorc i meaby want try it on Uber. Ofcourse problem is that roll of it can be weak ,not ike last time in sorc and tests also dont make me happy :D.
Last options for my (propablly) are Doom ,and
Stormlash
etheric.... but its to expensive ,to stupid tests i think...
I never mentioned Grief but I understand where you are going as I had been on a similar journey. I have a +400 Grief for a long time which I never use on my Tesladin. I forget I have it in the stash. If it was the best choice I would be using it everyday. Doom isn't the answer you are looking for. If it was then we would be using it in the community for a long time
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