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Amazon Infinity self use

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Hello everyone,

Im thinking about building a self use Infinity zon but i dont know what base to choose for infi between Mancatcher and matriarcal / ceremonial spears.

Is anyone already experienced this type of build ? Is zon specific spears too low ? Thx in advanced for opinions

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Nikanu `51`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

krathkor `910`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

i'd do it in a Mancatcher so if u don't like it u can give it to your merc

also, evertyhing will die pdq...

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feaross `3`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

I've done it, no regrets. Don't bother with a Mancatcher, go with a Zon Spear. It's worth fully committing.

Elvir `39`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

If u plan to use Insight Act2 merc or Plague Act 5 then Mancatcher because it's around 20% faster then Matriarchal Spear and this IAS diff outperforms +3 skiller on java spears.

If u have Faith Act1 merc then Matriarchal Spear because you will reach max Matriarhal Spear IAS breakpoint even with the worst Fanatism roll on Faith.

Schnorki `5565`Moderator

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

Not necessarily.

Depending on how you go about your gear, even without fana, you will often have an attack speed difference of 1 frame between the two at which point a +3 matri Spear may well still just barely outperform a Mancatcher.
('Barely' meaning it is so close that you may as well call it identical but mathematically, the matri does win in multiple setups)

With fana...yeah, matri is a clear winner, seeing how you'll end up with the same attack speed more likely than not and matri wins basically everything else.

marl71 `259`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

I've made this build twice, the first time offline and the second time online

Offline I used a Mancatcher, because I was making my very first Infinity, so I wanted it to be as multi-purpose as possible and I also wanted my spearzon to hit the fastest attack breakpoint without a Faith merc

I liked it so much, I made the build again several months later on ladder. This time, I fully committed with a mat Spear, and eventually also made Faith, Enigma, etc.

As @schnorki says, even without Faith, a mat Spear at 10 frames has similar dps to a Mancatcher at 9 frames. So if I ever make this build a third time, I will pick a mat Spear again!

xigua `68`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

How is this different then a thunder stroke build? Even with my jav I poke half the time. Would you use different skill?

ShadowHeart `6552`Moderator

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

xigua wrote: 2 years ago
How is this different then a thunder stroke build? Even with my jav I poke half the time. Would you use different skill?

The difference is that Infinity has a massive -(45-55)% to enemy lightning resistance built-in (which you don’t get to take advantage of when it’s on your merc), and that since you’re wielding it yourself the Conviction aura stays with you at all times (as opposed to on a dumb merc AI).

I’ve never seen dclone melt so fast as with a fully geared spearzon

you won’t believe it ‘til you see it

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basicnecromancy `683`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

I have one with Matriarchal Spear and Faith on act 1 Merc and man, she hits like a truck. I respeced from Javazon which I really don't like and never regret.

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xigua `68`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

I assume this is different then an Impale zon as you mainly do DMG via lightning? Wouldn't it be best then to simply use a +3 skill base version of mat Spear?

ShadowHeart `6552`Moderator

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

xigua wrote: 2 years ago
I assume this is different then an Impale zon as you mainly do DMG via lightning?

Yes, you only do damage via lightning, pretty much. You use Lightning Strike vs packs (releases Chain Lightning) and Charged Strike vs bosses (same as a Javazon).

xigua wrote: 2 years ago
Wouldn't it be best then to simply use a +3 skill base version of mat Spear?

Yes, that's the general consensus if you read the discussion above.

xigua `68`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

no i actually meant Maiden Spear - or doesn't that spawn with +3 ?

Nikanu `51`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

Thx everyone for feed-back

you seem all happy and no regrets with this build no matter what base is so i will build it with items that I have. Atm with +3 Ceremonial Spear + triple aura A2 merc

Nate2.0 `463`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

Just checked my offline Infinity spearazon. I made her Infinity in a +3 Matriarchal Spear. Right now i think she is the best melee character in the game, farms everywhere on P8 easily, but doesn’t feel so overpowered it’s not fun anymore.

Even though 99.9% of the damage is from the +skills and -en lightning resistance, I’d still recommend one of the elite bases.

fredkid `2147`

2 years ago (pre-Resurrected)

Nikanu wrote: 2 years ago
triple aura A2 merc

I think you can't get more than 2 auras on the merc (if you try 3+ the extra auras will no work...)

Mod edit : Nope, this isn't true, check other thread.

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