How do I get a Jah?

I'm aware this is a silly question with a simple answer; you pray every night to RNGesus and have fun slaying beasts of all kinds until a

Jah or something of equivalent value drops.

However, I've been playing the game pretty solidly since launch without a sniff of a

Jah. I'm neither as efficient nor as dedicated as many on here but have still invested several hundreds of hours into the grand quest. That being said, I consider myself to be a bit of a noob in terms of all the game's intricacies, and in terms of trading / the D2 economy, despite 69 (snigger) trades and counting. I'm aware that I may be missing some potential strategies to maximise my chances.

Therefore, to prompt some hopefully interesting discussion, two questions for the great and glorious of D2io:

1) How did you get your first

Jah? Did you find it, and if so where? Or did you trade for it, and if so, what did you trade?
2) If I started a (theoretical ) race in which the first person to obtain a

Jah would win ONE MILLION DOLLARS (Doctor Evil.jpg), what strategies would you employ to give yourself the best chance? Would you build a Java and kill cows as quickly as possible? A hork barb and go to Trav until you find one?

Key farm? Torch farm? Anni farm?

I've found 12 Jahs since launch and they've all been from either WSK or Trav on my Barb. 7 of them were drops, 5 of them horked.

Have done quite a bit of cows with my java + barb, but never get anything good from there. Almost no XP, and highest rune I've seen was an

Ohm.

WSK is my favorite due to the XP + drops, but if I were in a race for a million, I'd prob go with Trav Hork Barb. Got 2 Jahs in less than an hour one night running that!

I have found 2 Jahs since D2R, one in WSK and one in CS. If it was a race, I think a Trav horker is ideal, though I would probably just get a FoH Pally and grind Chaos

Q1 answer
I traded away 8

Ohm for my first

Jah, and 10 unid Anni for my second

Jah.
I never looted one in D2R nor oldschool D2.

Q2 answer
Writing my own Diablo2 game clone with some tweaked loot tables would probably be faster.

First online

Jah was at Tower Cellar on my way to Countess. From a loner Ghost in a pretty much empty hallway.

First offline

Jah was found at Cows, my favorite place offline to farm High Runes.

Like a lot people has said, Trav horker at

Travincal is pretty much OP. Do it 1000 times and see the results. You don’t get it then? Do another 1000, if bored farm something else. Is a grinding game Ma boi

Hey pal! How are you? Nice to salute you.

Well, TBH I feel a lot of similarities with you. Idk if it's precisely your case, but I've always been chasing Enigma.

I've been playing D2R since its launch on September 23rd of last year. I've been playing several characters in non-ladder, and when I noticed ladder 1 existed (quite late after it started), I started playing it with a Sorceress.

In this quest, an interesting adventure studying how the D2 economy works, and how could I get

Jah and

Ber for Enigma... After uncountable hours (among days and weeks), I got my first

Ber ever from

The Arcane Sanctuary, from one of

The Summoner's mob (since he can drop up to

Lo).

But... what about

Jah?

Ladder 2 started, and I created a

Lightning Fury Javazon (if I understood correct, same as you) in order to mostly farm

Terror Zones for the famous Sunder Charms.

After a while, I realized killing cows was far more interesting than some of the

Terror Zones IMO, so started going for it.

Finally, a few days ago, I got my first

Jah ever from one of the cows.

Moreover, let me tell you a couple things I've learned these last months from playing and also some YouTubers:

1) There are several strategies for high rune farming. And for each of those there's always the best character for that. I would suggest you take the one that you find most fun (or, at minimum, the least boring).
You can go with a Javazon and kill cows (I find it really enjoying), make a horker for Trav as you also mentioned (I found a thread somewhere here where a mate showed some graphics and it's really a very good path to take in terms of efficiency); also a paladin works really well in

Travincal (you can't hork, BUT you can take more advantages from it - more of this later).

2) You can trade for it. There are some really valuable items worth a

Jah (like

Griffon's Eye, for example), but you can also build Wealth in liquidity over time, and go and buy your

Jah.

Go and farm what you like the most, look at the possible value(s) of the items you find, post them to trade, and start selling them!
They don't have to be all unique and best rolls; they can also be things like: Base items for runewords,

Perfect Gems, crafting stuff (i.e. bulk of

Ral runes, perfect Amethysts, perfect Rubies, etc.), and a lot of more stuff. In my experience, when I realized that people are many times willing to pay for things that you might not be aware of their value, it's just a matter of time where you'll have enough Wealth to buy a

Jah.

As a matter of example, now I'm in search of a

Lo for a Fortitude. They're about 10-11

Ist. Since last week, I've been able to get a total of 5

Ist from selling stuff I found on cows. You get the point?

3) With a Sorceress, depending on the build, you can farm cows, Trav, and a lot of things. For example, keys. On ladder 1 I did good Wealth selling 3x3 keysets. Lots of players are willing to buy them since they can take Ubers easily (most of the times with a Smiter Paladin) but getting the keysets by themselves is really time consuming). IIRC, each keyset was worth about a

Gul. Even if you find difficult some of the keys, you can always trade one for another, OR you can sell bulks of the same

Key (e.g. sometimes are posts like "Any 9 keys for

Mal/

Ist", etc.).

4) Create a Paladin, and when you get enough level you'll be able to take Ubers. Each torch sells really well, even if they are bad rolls (as bad as an

Ist for them, I think). But you can get

Vex,

Ohm,

Lo... even

Jah if it's a good roll (Sorceress and Paladin torches are sold the best).

I hope any of these helps. Apologies for the length of this post. I hope all this didn't bore you and sorry if it did. I just wanted to let you know that I completely know how you feel. Wish you the best luck and please feel free to reach out if I can help with anything (I can help you level, farm a certain area, etc.).

To your success!

I'd just do keys and

Terror zones, i.e. what I'm doing right now!

I have never found a

Jah in 20 years of playing (on and off), but I did trade for dozens of them.

Long story short. I needed an Enigma for my Hammerdin. I made a Trav/Horker, dropped a

Ber on a terrorized council kill and with all the other stuff I found / gambled for I was able to trade for the

Jah. Have yet to drop a

Jah or

Zod rune in this game, been playing since original D2.

I’ve found 7

Jah since d2r launched with a 9 month break in the middle. 2 in ladder season 2. Trav horker finds only. But the fastest way would probably be to exploit trading. Buy low, sell high.

Edit: I guess the caveat to the trade scheme is that it takes some Wealth and risk to gain Wealth. But if you have a few spare

Ist and become knowledgeable about the prices of a few objects, you could target those.

El Oscuro wrote: 2 years ago

Hey pal! How are you? Nice to salute you.

Well, TBH I feel a lot of similarities with you. Idk if it's precisely your case, but I've always been chasing Enigma.

I've been playing D2R since its launch on September 23rd of last year. I've been playing several characters in non-ladder, and when I noticed ladder 1 existed (quite late after it started), I started playing it with a Sorceress.

In this quest, an interesting adventure studying how the D2 economy works, and how could I get

Jah and

Ber for Enigma... After uncountable hours (among days and weeks), I got my first

Ber ever from

The Arcane Sanctuary, from one of

The Summoner's mob (since he can drop up to

Lo).

But... what about

Jah?

Ladder 2 started, and I created a

Lightning Fury Javazon (if I understood correct, same as you) in order to mostly farm

Terror Zones for the famous Sunder Charms.

After a while, I realized killing cows was far more interesting than some of the

Terror Zones IMO, so started going for it.

Finally, a few days ago, I got my first

Jah ever from one of the cows.

Moreover, let me tell you a couple things I've learned these last months from playing and also some YouTubers:

1) There are several strategies for high rune farming. And for each of those there's always the best character for that. I would suggest you take the one that you find most fun (or, at minimum, the least boring).
You can go with a Javazon and kill cows (I find it really enjoying), make a horker for Trav as you also mentioned (I found a thread somewhere here where a mate showed some graphics and it's really a very good path to take in terms of efficiency); also a paladin works really well in

Travincal (you can't hork, BUT you can take more advantages from it - more of this later).

2) You can trade for it. There are some really valuable items worth a

Jah (like

Griffon's Eye, for example), but you can also build Wealth in liquidity over time, and go and buy your

Jah.

Go and farm what you like the most, look at the possible value(s) of the items you find, post them to trade, and start selling them!
They don't have to be all unique and best rolls; they can also be things like: Base items for runewords,

Perfect Gems, crafting stuff (i.e. bulk of

Ral runes, perfect Amethysts, perfect Rubies, etc.), and a lot of more stuff. In my experience, when I realized that people are many times willing to pay for things that you might not be aware of their value, it's just a matter of time where you'll have enough Wealth to buy a

Jah.

As a matter of example, now I'm in search of a

Lo for a Fortitude. They're about 10-11

Ist. Since last week, I've been able to get a total of 5

Ist from selling stuff I found on cows. You get the point?

3) With a Sorceress, depending on the build, you can farm cows, Trav, and a lot of things. For example, keys. On ladder 1 I did good Wealth selling 3x3 keysets. Lots of players are willing to buy them since they can take Ubers easily (most of the times with a Smiter Paladin) but getting the keysets by themselves is really time consuming). IIRC, each keyset was worth about a

Gul. Even if you find difficult some of the keys, you can always trade one for another, OR you can sell bulks of the same

Key (e.g. sometimes are posts like "Any 9 keys for

Mal/

Ist", etc.).

4) Create a Paladin, and when you get enough level you'll be able to take Ubers. Each torch sells really well, even if they are bad rolls (as bad as an

Ist for them, I think). But you can get

Vex,

Ohm,

Lo... even

Jah if it's a good roll (Sorceress and Paladin torches are sold the best).

I hope any of these helps. Apologies for the length of this post. I hope all this didn't bore you and sorry if it did. I just wanted to let you know that I completely know how you feel. Wish you the best luck and please feel free to reach out if I can help with anything (I can help you level, farm a certain area, etc.).

To your success!

Thank you, I love this post. I got my

Lo for Fortitude precisely in this way, trading 10

Ist for it.

That being said,

Jah feels much further away and less achievable to obtain in this way, I wonder if it will be quicker to get the necessary

Ist runes vs finding one

Jah.

You bring up an interesting point about keys too, sell them or farm Ubers? I have something like 28 keys in my stash on Ladder but I do also have a Smiter. To Uber or not to Uber?

It seems like a Trav horker is a good bet, but I do find it a bit dull. More time looking at loading screens than killing councillors!

drostealth wrote: 2 years ago

I have found 2 Jahs since D2R, one in WSK and one in CS. If it was a race, I think a Trav horker is ideal, though I would probably just get a FoH Pally and grind Chaos

I've done an awful lot of Chaos with an FoH pally. Couple of Ohms, nothing better at this stage. Just 6 more Ohms for that

Jah

Ravoc wrote: 2 years ago

Q1 answer
I traded away 8

Ohm for my first

Jah, and 10 unid Anni for my second

Jah.
I never looted one in D2R nor oldschool D2.

Q2 answer
Writing my own Diablo2 game clone with some tweaked loot tables would probably be faster.

Hey! where did you sell unid annis?

That was on non-ladder during summer somewhere. That won't be possible anymore nowadays, annis are devalued too much.

Janet the Java wrote: 2 years ago

El Oscuro wrote: 2 years ago

Hey pal! How are you? Nice to salute you.

Well, TBH I feel a lot of similarities with you. Idk if it's precisely your case, but I've always been chasing Enigma.

I've been playing D2R since its launch on September 23rd of last year. I've been playing several characters in non-ladder, and when I noticed ladder 1 existed (quite late after it started), I started playing it with a Sorceress.

In this quest, an interesting adventure studying how the D2 economy works, and how could I get

Jah and

Ber for Enigma... After uncountable hours (among days and weeks), I got my first

Ber ever from

The Arcane Sanctuary, from one of

The Summoner's mob (since he can drop up to

Lo).

But... what about

Jah?

Ladder 2 started, and I created a

Lightning Fury Javazon (if I understood correct, same as you) in order to mostly farm

Terror Zones for the famous Sunder Charms.

After a while, I realized killing cows was far more interesting than some of the

Terror Zones IMO, so started going for it.

Finally, a few days ago, I got my first

Jah ever from one of the cows.

Moreover, let me tell you a couple things I've learned these last months from playing and also some YouTubers:

1) There are several strategies for high rune farming. And for each of those there's always the best character for that. I would suggest you take the one that you find most fun (or, at minimum, the least boring).
You can go with a Javazon and kill cows (I find it really enjoying), make a horker for Trav as you also mentioned (I found a thread somewhere here where a mate showed some graphics and it's really a very good path to take in terms of efficiency); also a paladin works really well in

Travincal (you can't hork, BUT you can take more advantages from it - more of this later).

2) You can trade for it. There are some really valuable items worth a

Jah (like

Griffon's Eye, for example), but you can also build Wealth in liquidity over time, and go and buy your

Jah.

Go and farm what you like the most, look at the possible value(s) of the items you find, post them to trade, and start selling them!
They don't have to be all unique and best rolls; they can also be things like: Base items for runewords,

Perfect Gems, crafting stuff (i.e. bulk of

Ral runes, perfect Amethysts, perfect Rubies, etc.), and a lot of more stuff. In my experience, when I realized that people are many times willing to pay for things that you might not be aware of their value, it's just a matter of time where you'll have enough Wealth to buy a

Jah.

As a matter of example, now I'm in search of a

Lo for a Fortitude. They're about 10-11

Ist. Since last week, I've been able to get a total of 5

Ist from selling stuff I found on cows. You get the point?

3) With a Sorceress, depending on the build, you can farm cows, Trav, and a lot of things. For example, keys. On ladder 1 I did good Wealth selling 3x3 keysets. Lots of players are willing to buy them since they can take Ubers easily (most of the times with a Smiter Paladin) but getting the keysets by themselves is really time consuming). IIRC, each keyset was worth about a

Gul. Even if you find difficult some of the keys, you can always trade one for another, OR you can sell bulks of the same

Key (e.g. sometimes are posts like "Any 9 keys for

Mal/

Ist", etc.).

4) Create a Paladin, and when you get enough level you'll be able to take Ubers. Each torch sells really well, even if they are bad rolls (as bad as an

Ist for them, I think). But you can get

Vex,

Ohm,

Lo... even

Jah if it's a good roll (Sorceress and Paladin torches are sold the best).

I hope any of these helps. Apologies for the length of this post. I hope all this didn't bore you and sorry if it did. I just wanted to let you know that I completely know how you feel. Wish you the best luck and please feel free to reach out if I can help with anything (I can help you level, farm a certain area, etc.).

To your success!

Thank you, I love this post. I got my

Lo for Fortitude precisely in this way, trading 10

Ist for it.

That being said,

Jah feels much further away and less achievable to obtain in this way, I wonder if it will be quicker to get the necessary

Ist runes vs finding one

Jah.

You bring up an interesting point about keys too, sell them or farm Ubers? I have something like 28 keys in my stash on Ladder but I do also have a Smiter. To Uber or not to Uber?

It seems like a Trav horker is a good bet, but I do find it a bit dull. More time looking at loading screens than killing councillors!

drostealth wrote: 2 years ago

I have found 2 Jahs since D2R, one in WSK and one in CS. If it was a race, I think a Trav horker is ideal, though I would probably just get a FoH Pally and grind Chaos

I've done an awful lot of Chaos with an FoH pally. Couple of Ohms, nothing better at this stage. Just 6 more Ohms for that

Jah

It isnt a sprint, but a grind (with a dash of luck). There is nothing you can do other than clear high density areas as fast as you can and hope you get lucky

Janet the Java wrote: 2 years ago

Therefore, to prompt some hopefully interesting discussion, two questions for the great and glorious of D2io:

1) How did you get your first

Jah? Did you find it, and if so where? Or did you trade for it, and if so, what did you trade?
2) If I started a (theoretical ) race in which the first person to obtain a

Jah would win ONE MILLION DOLLARS (Doctor Evil.jpg), what strategies would you employ to give yourself the best chance? Would you build a Java and kill cows as quickly as possible? A hork barb and go to Trav until you find one?

Key farm? Torch farm? Anni farm?

1. First one found was in the throne in a public

Baal run. Nothing beats the adrenaline of beating out 7 other people. Second one found was solo in

The Forgotten Tower.

2. Buy one for $5. Duh.

Hork barb for SSF, probably Torch farm if trading is involved. Annis are basically worthless at this point and you're not in control of the spawn despite how frequent they are on ladder, so I don't think they're an efficient way to go for trading.

In 14-ish months playing D2R, I have only found 2

Jah

1st: Horked from a corpse in WSK
2nd: Horked from a corpse in

Chaos Sanctuary

I have had the most luck finding HRs with my Barb, but my other toons have found a couple, mostly Cows\WSK\CS\Trav

Count me in as another that's never seen one actually drop, and I've played off and on since the version that was a build up to the then coming LoD.

I've never got a lot of certain things to drop--including most runes. (Don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining. I've dropped way more valuable stuff.) The point is that you may just have to try and trade for the

Jah if that's possible.

(Edit)

Ravoc wrote: 2 years ago

That won't be possible anymore nowadays, annis are devalued too much.

That comment makes me cry a little since I've yet to get a real trade for even the worst possible anni.

Wowwies do I have a long way to go...

(/Edit)

Zero187 wrote: 2 years ago

I've found 12 Jahs since launch and they've all been from either WSK or Trav on my Barb. 7 of them were drops, 5 of them horked.

Have done quite a bit of cows with my java + barb, but never get anything good from there. Almost no XP, and highest rune I've seen was an

Ohm.
temp
WSK is my favorite due to the XP + drops, but if I were in a race for a million, I'd prob go with Trav Hork Barb. Got 2 Jahs in less than an hour one night running that!

if the "you got really lucky" thread has taught me anything, it is that this man definitely knows how to play Diablo. I think Zero would win that hypothetical race. I mean, it would come down to rng, but... just go look in that thread. I believe him when he says he has found 12

Jah.

P.S. I've only dropped 1

Jah and unfortunately didn't manage to screen

Cap it. Was a players 8 game and we were all in

Chaos Sanctuary just farming exp. I was leading the group so it dropped right next to me before the others had caught up, and that's probably the only reason I managed to get it because usually my hands are never fast enough to loot in group play. All the other Jahs I've had I traded for. Usually something like

Lo+

Ohm+

Vex+Soj or something enticing like that. You really got to make it tempting for them to give up a

Jah.

Thanks, I think a lot of it comes down to having a ton of time to play and just not giving up until I get a good drop. I can be a stubborn bastard. Will go until 3-4AM some nights if its a good

Terror zone, which is admittedly pushing my sleep schedule a bit too far sometimes. Gotta be up @ 8AM for work Mon-Fri. But has been worth it in many cases.

Ever since COVID hit I've been working from home and am able to do Trav runs here and there during my breaks, which can be quite often on slow days. Recently upgraded a few dozen Windows/MSSQL servers from 2012 to 2019 and now I can relax a bit while I wait until next big project. Just hit 10 years at my current job - only 30 more to go until retirement!! Woohoo.. xD

Sorry for the tangent, back to Diablo. I think a lot of times people spread out their effort between chars, making each one moderately strong instead of having one or two super powerful chars. I see it in many other games, as well as aspects of life. Most spread their talents thin and are slightly versed in all, while others focus their efforts on only a few and aim to perfect them. I'm someone who does the latter in most cases, especially in the games I play. Was top 10 for greater rifts at one point with my Barb back in D3 and #1 Warrior on my realm for about a year back during Cata in WoW. But I get that the endgame grind can get boring at times so people want to mix it up with new chars or even move on to other games. Will be a long time for me though! Had close to 4000 hours in D3, and that game wasn't anywhere near as good as this one IMO.

Spoiler

The secret to my persistence is unlimited amount of fresh, organic homegrown (just harvested a BEAUTIFUL crop that's now drying), which makes my loot finding adventure an absolute, never-ending joy on my barb + javazon. Whenever it starts getting slow, I pack my

Volcano or 3-footer and enjoy some quality green, which seems to always do the trick. Can do 100 Trav runs in 2-3 hours and it feels like a few minutes!

EDIT: And another nice bonus to Trav is fast gold for gambling, which can get you some pretty amazing jewelry. Check out this ring I just gambled yesterday:

How many

Jah do you think that could go for? xD

first one was a week ago, horked it from trav.

been playing since d2lod launch and never had one drop. ive never had

Lo,

Sur,

Ber,

Cham, or

Zod drop for me.

A friend sends: cube two

Ber and a

Flawless Ruby.

>_<